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News Comments > Johnny Gat Joining Agents of Mayhem
3. Re: Johnny Gat Joining Agents of Mayhem Jun 9, 2017, 05:09 NKD
 
Johnny fucking Gat  
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
14. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 8, 2017, 13:13 NKD
 
Comey's strong confidence in Mueller's investigation is reassuring, but that has never been my concern.

My concern is that the cowards on the right will not put America before party if it becomes clear Trump was involved in wrongdoing.
 
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
12. Re: Morning Mobilization Jun 7, 2017, 23:27 NKD
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 22:54:
Where I do disagree is with the notion that Siri or Alexa is going to become self-aware and turn your home into Citadel Station. That sort of fear, the creation turning against the creator, simply isn't reflective of how these technologies actually work.

Well yeah, if anyone is worried about that, they are being silly. A "Skynet" type scenario is far less likely than a "paperclip maximizer" scenario, where an AGI designed to fulfill some larger task, makes inherently unpredictable intermediate decisions and goals that are incompatible with the original intent, or even incompatible with human well-being.

There needs to be an active component to ensuring an AGI doesn't come up with ways to improve and optimize itself that are destructive to human well-being, even if avoiding harm to humans conflicts with its own desires.

An AI needn't view humanity as a threat to accidentally fuck us all over. All it needs is to be granted enough ability to exert its will on the physical world, and a few bad decisions.

My main worry is that our ability to safely and responsibly use a new technology usually lags behind the development of the technology itself by a decade or more. I think that with AI, that's too much of a lag time and we need to be absolutely proactive.
 
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
10. Re: Morning Mobilization Jun 7, 2017, 21:06 NKD
 
The point that I'm trying to make is that the science-fiction scenario, which admittedly is fun to think about (System Shock and Terminator are appealing for a reason), is sufficiently improbable and not currently possible, that we can safely leave it to science-fiction.

Aren't you just assuming people wouldn't be stupid enough to, through intention or incompetence, give an AI control of dangerous weaponry? There's nothing fundamentally impossible about this scenario. In fact, this scenario doesn't even REQUIRE artificial general intelligence. It only requires a poorly built narrow AI and over-confident apes dumb enough to implement it.

This is exactly the sort of stuff people need to be researching. How do we ensure that these AI are developed SAFELY? These safeguards aren't going to manifest by themselves, and we can't wait until they are knocking on our door to start thinking about it.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
1. Re: etc., etc. Jun 7, 2017, 20:16 NKD
 
Sounds like they had serious management problems over there at Bioware Montreal. The scope change away from procedural generation was a necessary evil but I don't think they handled it very well.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
8. Re: Morning Mobilization Jun 7, 2017, 17:33 NKD
 
Again, you're simply saying you don't think it's coming any time soon and thus we shouldn't do any planning or preparation. It's not like anyone is proposing we enact drastic measures that we'd regret and consider wasteful if those AI breakthroughs don't come.

Even if it's not coming soon, you've offered no argument that it's not inevitable that we will develop a true AI. If something is inevitable, and no one can give us a solid time frame for how soon it may happen, or how late, shouldn't we err on the side of caution and do some real thinking?

People just want to be prepared.

"Fortune favors the prepared mind." -Louis Pasteur
 
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
6. Re: Morning Mobilization Jun 7, 2017, 11:08 NKD
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 07:48:
You guys are thinking in terms of science fiction rather than science.

Nonsense. Science fiction is full of things that are we know aren't happening in our universe because we understand enough about physics to say that it doesn't work like that.

The worried about AI on the other hand are entirely rational and aren't dismissed at all by physics.

All your post is saying is "I don't think it's going to be happening soon." Okay. So there's no reason to be thinking about it then? When do we start thinking about it? When do we start preparing? Even people deeply knowledgeable about the field and the progress they've made can't say with any confidence the time frame we're looking at for true AI.

As I said in my earlier post, you need only make two assumptions: First, there's nothing magical about a human brain that can't be replicated artificially. And second, we'll continue to increase our information processing capability.
 
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News Comments > Writer Jay Pinkerton Leaves Valve
5. Re: Writer Jay Pinkerton Leaves Valve Jun 7, 2017, 11:02 NKD
 
Valve has no interest in making games that have stories, and very little interest in making games in general, so it makes sense that writers would get bored and leave.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
2. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 7, 2017, 00:33 NKD
 
The lack of concern people have about AI is mind-boggling.

The best way I've seen it put is that there are only two assumptions you must make to believe a human-level AI is not only possible, but inevitable.

1) Intelligence is simply a matter of information processing. (I.e. there's nothing magical about human brains that can't be replicated or even surpassed by an artificial construct)
2) We will continue to improve our information processing.

The first assumption is a given, as to assume otherwise involves invoking the supernatural or paranormal.

The second assumption is probably safe as well, barring some catastrophe that destroys all our technology, in which case we have bigger problems anyway.

You don't need Moore's Law to continue, you don't need exponential growth. You just need progress in that direction. Even people in the AI field can't give a consistent ballpark estimate because there just isn't a good way to measure the progress being made.

Another good point I've heard made is this: You don't need to design something smarter than a relatively smart human. Even if it's just capable of human-level thinking... it doesn't need food or sleep, and by virtue of being technological can be scaled up in a way humans can't be. Having a merely human-level AI thinking about something for a week could be the equivalent of having a team of scientists thinking about something for 10,000 years. The only limitations would be physical, i.e. if the research in question requires physical experimentation or physical data gathering.

And if you add in the big concern, the fact that people are going to be making AIs who can then create better AIs, well, it's easy to see how there's a strong possibility that such a situation could get away from us if we're not very careful about how we do it.

The last thing you want is some Aspergers case who posts on 4chan to be the first one to create a human-level AI.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
5. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 6, 2017, 15:30 NKD
 
Not sure about the Trump leak thing. As much as I'd like to, it's hard to call it "whistleblowing" since it doesn't allege any wrongdoing by the NSA or by our own government.

If anything, our intelligence community has been on the right side of all this shit by freezing out the Orange Menace. Leaking their intel with regards to the Russia investigation doesn't really benefit the country. Yeah, it's interesting to read, but it's not worth 10 years in prison and a career change. Seems like a dumb move to leak something that is, in the grand scheme, inconsequential and frankly we already knew about.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
1. Re: etc., etc. Jun 5, 2017, 18:29 NKD
 
Good to see the VAs making progress on their strike. Getting a bunch of individual contracts hammered out is a lot better than trying to find something that'll please everyone. More effort and negotiation I suppose to do it, but gives you steady progress instead of having to sit there out of work for 2 years.  
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
7. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 2, 2017, 02:02 NKD
 
VaranDragon wrote on Jun 1, 2017, 12:11:
Cutter wrote on Jun 1, 2017, 11:59:
That's quite literally insane. Holding an opinion means your guilty of a crime? Fucking insane.

Read the fucking article, for once.

While I am hesitant to jump to the defense of Cutter who has literally defended Hitler and pedophilia on these boards, I gotta call bullshit here. I read the article and Cutter is right. This guy was fined not for posting libel, but for clicking a like button on someone elses post.

You want to fine someone for making up bullshit about someone else to assassinate their character? Sure. But fining someone for believing it? No place for this kind of shit in civilized countries.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
14. Re: Out of the Blue May 31, 2017, 19:25 NKD
 
Is Cutter literally defending pedophilia?

Cutter wrote on May 31, 2017, 19:15:

And regardless if the gender was reversed it's still excessive. It was consensual. There's a reason we start puberty that young. I lost my virginity at 13. By the time I was 16 - which is the legal age in most countries - I was having sex regularly. Only in America are people under 21 too young to have sex - but going to war and prison is just fine however.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
3. Re: Morning Legal Briefs May 31, 2017, 18:16 NKD
 
Cutter wrote on May 31, 2017, 12:38:
Fuck Doctorow. Typical lazy parasite that wants to work once and get paid forever. In what universe is copyright for life plus 50 years fair or sensible? I so fucking hate that dick and his dick site.

Man I love these Cutter posts where he takes a strong opinion on an article he didn't read or understand. His personal attack on Doctorow is nonsensical because Doctorow doesn't support lengthy copyrights.

This comment was edited on May 31, 2017, 19:15.
 
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News Comments > Agents of Mayhem Trailer
5. Re: Agents of Mayhem Trailer May 31, 2017, 16:35 NKD
 
Should have branded it with the Saints Row name somehow. It's pretty much a Saints Row spinoff to begin with. Looking forward to it.  
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News Comments > EVERSPACE Launches
12. Re: EVERSPACE Launches May 27, 2017, 02:41 NKD
 
Glad to see this is getting good reviews, I was worried it was going to be another victim of the inability of the gaming world to ship a decent space game.  
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News Comments > Into the Black
1. Re: Into the Black May 23, 2017, 22:38 NKD
 
Cortez Kennedy  
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
47. Re: Morning Mobilization May 23, 2017, 20:26 NKD
 
SMITE wrote on May 23, 2017, 20:16:
This "none of us are ever going to die of terrorism" argument pisses me the hell off. So what if none of US are going to die from it--lots of other people ARE dying from it. Are the lives of people in other countries worth so little to you?

What if you happened to be born in Afghanistan? Or Pakistan? Or Saudi Arabia? Or, for that matter, France or England?

Yeah you see a lot of shit like this on "progressive" websites. Where they lay out how its so unlikely you're going to be killed by a terrorist. Well yeah, if you live in the US, where we have very few Muslims, and the ones we do have tend to be moderates, and random people with guns (and the cops) are a bigger threat.

I don't worry one bit about being the victim of a terrorist attack in the US, but I still recognize the suffering of people in terrorism-prone countries, and still think its something worth worrying about for that reason alone.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
42. Re: Out of the Blue May 23, 2017, 19:13 NKD
 
Quboid wrote on May 23, 2017, 19:07:
You've been civil NKD, I just find the whole discussion frustrating. I should have listened to the wise and handsome fellow in post #13.

Yes it is definitely frustrating. You are absolutely correct about the Iraq War being a mistake. You cannot reform Islam by invading the region and destabilizing it. I could be convinced going to Afghanistan was necessary, but there's really no legitimate argument for Iraq.
 
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39. Re: Out of the Blue May 23, 2017, 18:48 NKD
 
jdreyer wrote on May 23, 2017, 18:37:
The hole in attacking Islam for terror is that there are a billion Muslims worldwide but only a few thousand Islamic terrorists. It's a fraction of a fraction of a percent. There's also a direct correlation between lack of education and economic opportunity and becoming an extremist. Improving these things would have greater success than taking a hard line.

Those economic and education issues are also deeply rooted in Islamic doctrine and theocracy.

And it's not as simple as "A billion good and decent Muslims and a few thousand terrorists."

You've got the entire sphere of Islam. Within that sphere, the vast majority of them are within the sphere of conservative Muslims who believe in a lot of shitty things like imprisoning homosexuals and disallowing women from working or driving. Within the sphere of conservative Muslims you have the Islamists. These are people who believe in beheading infidels and jihad. Then within the Islamist sphere, you have the actual Jihadists who not only believe in these things, but do them.

So yes, it's true that only a small percentage of them particiate in Jihad. But that small percentage is responsible for a lot of suffering and it is deeply rooted in their religion.

You cannot separate Islamic terrorism from Islam. The only way for this issue to be solved is for reformers within Islam to be empowered. It's their mess, they have to clean it up.

This is why things like travel bans and invasions are stupid ideas. It only makes it harder for those reformers to do their jobs.
 
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