I'm scared that one may have an affect on the other.

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Yeah I think Steve Jobby-jobs and his boys couldn't get dist. outside of America for a while - I think the Spectrum wasn't even released in America.

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In America, Rugby is played by lesbian women.

I don't have a joke here, but it's true...

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Ok........this thread has dragged out far enough, as far as this nationalist stuff goes. We are all loyal to our homelands,.......this is a good thing

While some of the posts in this thread are clearly mean spirited, I think for the most part we're all just having a bit of fun with out friends across the pond - since we're both of similar ethnic makeup (i.e., we're not a bunch of white folks making fun of Indians or something) it's all in good fun. This tension is hightened by the fact that some 200 years ago we did the revolution/separation thang.

Rivalries are fun and they're even healthy - when they're based on something trivial and harmless. And they never have to die, kinda like the old Commodore 64 versus Apple ][ debate.

Speaking of which, BTW
COMMODORE 64 RULES! APPLE ][ SUXORS!!!

(irony: isn't the C64 a European export?)

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Hwua? Are you guys still going on about this? C'mon, the new Star Wars title's been announced - go over there:

http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=27378

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Congress proposes a ban on cloning.

Less than one week later, the Episode II title is announced to be Attack of the Clones.

Coincidence?

"See! We passed the law because these fuckers are dangerous! Beware the clones! Beware the... aaack!"

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What's wrong with something simple, like:

Star Wars Episode II: The Clone Wars

Because having "Wars" in the title twice would be stupid.

Im saving my movie money for LotR

Wow, you must be poor if it takes you that long to save up $7.50.

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that butch dress-up party you yankee-doodles call 'football' is actually monickered "American football" in the civilised world

Not our fault you can't do anything right...


Just like the Crossanwich - we fix everything.

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And yes I'm just drawing this thread out.

Yeah, I like Black & White, but it doesn't give me enough practical killing skills.

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Gun-toting crazies indeed......

Aw man, this isn't going to turn into a thread about religion is it?

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us here in 'Yurp'

Or as us Americans call Europe, 'England'

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Unlike in the USA of course, where one cannot step outside one's door or go to work without being machine-gunned by some gun-toting crazy.

Nah, I'm not afraid of that either. Of course, I graduated from High School long ago...

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So how realistic is this soccer? It's from a Eurpoean developer, so if it's truly realistic, then thousands of people will be crushed to death at a game.

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Why is it whenever B&W comes out with anything people feel the need to tell everyone that they returned the game. It's like the puttering old grandfather complaining about the person who was president the last time they were conscious whever Bush comes on the TV screen - it's not relevant and it shows a lack of intelligence.

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Gateway: http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=430
Gateway II: http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=446

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Aw jeez, am I the only one that has NEVER had a problem with Quake III Arena and instead blames my losing on the fact that I'm not the best player in the world? Let me get this straight - instead of doing like most people do and bitch about the unfixed bugs, you're actually insisting that the bugs were fixed and that subsequent patches did nothing but break them again or introduce new ones? Sure, patches sometimes introduce new bugs, but as soon as id releases a quick fix then they catch more heat for releasing an incomplete patch in the first place. When will it be enough? Or are you just bitching to hear yourself bitch?

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In the case of Tomb Raider, it is my understanding that what happened was that Eidos, which was a new publisher at the time, was starving for a sequel. They had signed the development team (I don't remember what/if their name was) to a deal wherein TR was Eidos' Intellectual Property (this is somewhat common practice I think). When the development team didn't want to "belt out" another game right away, opting instead to work on another game and make some improvements/changes to the TR engine/idea before a second game, Eidos canned them and brought in another designer. In fact, they have done this (changing the development team) for each of the TR titles, which is why we had five games in five years, none of which made much effort to innovate the game, genre or engine.

Now, if Eidos owns the IP rights to the Deus Ex "franchise" it might be entirely possible that Spector could get the boot. However, since:

1. Eidos learned some hard lessons from the Tomb Raider fiasco (marginally better games breed lower sales and a bad PR image).
2. Spector delivered Deus Ex to high sales and high critical praise in a timely fashion, and
3. Ion Storm-Austin hasn't been as problematic,

it stands to reason that they won't do anything bad to the Deus Ex franchise.

As for Thief, I dunno. And I wonder who owns/controls Anachronox at this point.

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If you understood why they walk at 45 degrees to the ground you would understand why they are laughing at you with your arrogance and ignorance.

Who are "they" - the characters in the game?

I really don't see why being one of the only people in this thread actually being nice to Daikatana (for the most part) qualifies me as arrogant, but try this for me: walk up a flight of stairs. Now, if the plane of your body is at a 45 degree (or 135 degree, your choice) angle to the ground then I guess I'm the one screwed up. Most people climb stairs with the plane of their body maintained perpendicular to the ground. There is at least one point in Daikatana, however, that the enemies are walking up the stairs with their bodies at a 45 degree angle - and they're not holding on to the railing for dear life. I know perfectly well why - the clipping plane for the stairs is not the steps themselves, so that the traversing can be made easier, but the characters just don't look right. Now considering that almost any computer game, including Quake 2, the game the engine was based off of, can properly handle characters travelling up stairs with no problem (provided the level is designed properly), it seems odd that Daikatana missed out on this.

The more important aspect of all of this, however, was the sheer irony of a game taking over three years to produce and even some of the most obvious and glaring problems completely slipped by the developers. Really, I don't see why anybody, if the price is right, would not want to get Daikatana - it really is the Plan 9 from Outer Space of computer games. The only thing more fascinating than the aspects of the game itself being so fundamentally flawed is that it got published by Eidos at all (WizardWorks I could understand) or that it came from the same (basic) development house that gave us Deus Ex and Anachronox. A truly fascinating study in game development.

But thank you, anon@194.7, for getting this obscenely long thread back onto topic, and off of religious subject matter.

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I think Douglas Adams said it best (again) with the explanation of the Babel Fish from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - a fish that, when placed into your ear translates whatever you hear into whatever language you speak.

'I refuse to prove that I exist', says God, 'for proof
denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

'But', says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway
isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It
proves you exist, and therefore, by your own
arguments, you don't. QED.'

'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that', and
promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

Man then goes on to proved that white is black and vice versa and then promptly gets killed at the next zebra crossing.

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The fun flipside of the demo is that I seriously doubt many of the people who lambash Daikatana (like our friend anon@63.193) even went so far as to download the demo. 100MB is a lot of bandwidth for a demo you've heard bad things about. Not only do you not have to download and play the demo in order to bash it and the whole game, but no one even has to know you didn't even bother to download the demo. The fact that anon@63.193 bashed Daikatana "as soon as it was release" (sic) speaks to his not partaking of the demo, which was released prior to the game's release.

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This comment was edited on Jul 20, 15:57.