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News Comments > Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed
137. Re: Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed Oct 12, 2015, 12:34 Flatline
 
NasWulf wrote on Oct 12, 2015, 09:06:
Blue wrote on Oct 12, 2015, 08:35:
NasWulf wrote on Oct 12, 2015, 08:13:
I just hope blue stops with the click bait sensationalist re-posting of this crap and moves on. Chances are low as i'm sure this gets him good ad revenue.

If you deem "Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed" as clickbait then I can only assume you feel the only way to cover this game fairly is by ignoring it entirely.

Yes ... you know as well as I do that posting anything related to star citizen is going to create dissension within your forms which in turn creates ad revenue for the site. I have supported this site for years and enjoy it very much with it's quick fix for news from around the internet but everytime I see a star citizen News posting it makes me cringe at the vile nature of this community. I try to avoid the forms as much as possible but when it gets over 100 post, its hard not to glance at it and then it's hard not to get worked up at the cynicism and the jadedness of the community.


Sounds like you have a willpower problem.

There's a really easy solution. Don't read the comments. Having a personal character flaw and expecting an entire community curtail to your flaw is extremely arrogant.

But that seems to be the norm these days. Would you feel better if Blue put up a trigger warning on all SC stories? Or do you need a safe room with puppies and bubbles and play-doh to insulate you from ideas you don't like?
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed
136. Re: Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed Oct 12, 2015, 12:16 Flatline
 
Krovven wrote on Oct 12, 2015, 04:49:
That's not what I said is it? I said "fuck YOUR ethics". Did you not understand anything I wrote prior to that? Your ethics are as valuable as your opinion, they are your own and nobody else has to abide by them.

All ethics is, an opinion of how things should be from that individual. A collection of individuals that both agree and disagree make up the laws based on those collection of ethics. Those people, around the world have collectively agreed that nepotism is not illegal, therefor, not wrong.

Did... did you really just argue that if something isn't illegal it's not wrong?

Because I can take that all kinds of interesting places. Cheating on your SO? Not wrong. The mortgage scams that led to the 2008 recession? Not wrong. Intentionally taking money through a corporation when you know you can't possibly deliver and hiding behind the corporation's legal protections? Not wrong. Jacking life-saving medicine up from 17 bucks to 900 dollars a pill? Not wrong.

I could keep going.
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed
48. Re: Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed Oct 11, 2015, 19:38 Flatline
 
Also that saitek controller looked like ass.

How much do you think the full saitek control pod is going to run? 500? A cool grand? And it still probably will be inferior to mouse and keyboard.
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed
47. Re: Star Citizen Star Cast Revealed Oct 11, 2015, 19:34 Flatline
 
ColoradoHoudini wrote on Oct 11, 2015, 19:20:
I know I am in the minority here, but I want this game to be as awesome as the devs envision. I want this game to succeed.

We actually all want this. We just don't think it will happen. At it's best SC has been in dev for 3 years and they don't have gameplay to show for their single player game. I mean WTF?


I don't see how this game failing or picking on the devs or badmouthing this title at every turn helps our hobby? The financial backing has been great, and I would love to see this method used again for another awesome title because there's a nice freedom to how this title came about.

It won't help the hobby if it turns out CR took 90 million bucks and couldn't deliver a goddamn space sim game. And the more money dumped into it, the more it's going to hurt if it fails.

Succeed or fail you will probably never see this kind of a crowd funded game again at these levels. Even if the game is shipped there is zero way that it will live up to the expectations of the fans.

And finally, from accounts, it seems like unrestricted freedom is exactly the problem with the project.

/Did I just feed a troll?
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer
80. Re: Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer Oct 10, 2015, 03:10 Flatline
 
Creston wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 22:36:
Flatline wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:16:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 12:37:
This is a video from the third-party contractor working with CIG for facial animations: https://vimeo.com/122667590

As for the explosions, they look pretty awesome to me.

KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE

That landed so squarely in the uncanny valley that it made me shiver.

That's incredible animation, but I'm not sure that it's any better than the technology Rockstar showed off in LA Noire almost five years ago... Kinda wonder why that never caught on (cost probably.)


I'd say it's better than LA Noire. LA Noire was basically the talking heads in Disneyland's Haunted Mansion. They had a head shaped model and projected a movie of a real face onto it. Yeah it was more difficult than that but the face would do some really weird swimming. Plus, most games don't need to express nonverbal empathy cues the way that LA Noire needed.

The thing that animation needs to have is not just facial movement but the whole body. Ramrod stiff heads and bodies that don't fucking twitch sets off my creep meter severely.

It's actually not particularly more technically advanced than high quality character renders recently. It is just higher fidelity.

The next big breakthrough in animation is going to be figuring out how to take all that emotion and non-verbal cues and turn that into a solution that is economical enough that pushing photo realistic digital human characters passes the uncanny valley.

Sort of how the big breakthrough in Snow Crash's matrix was the addition of nonverbal cues. Neil Stephenson was right.
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer
68. Re: Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer Oct 9, 2015, 18:40 Flatline
 
Vall Forran wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 18:01:
Flatline wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:45:
Vall Forran wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:39:
Flatline wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:16:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 12:37:
This is a video from the third-party contractor working with CIG for facial animations: https://vimeo.com/122667590

As for the explosions, they look pretty awesome to me.

KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE

That landed so squarely in the uncanny valley that it made me shiver.

...Because we'd rather have "It's a bomb!" from Deus Ex. Jesus.

Seriously? All I said is that it hit the uncanny valley. The textures and the actual facial animations look great. There's no body language though and it looks so good that my brain expects there to be more nonverbal communication and recoils when there isn't.

Take a fucking pill dude. In order for something to hit the uncanny valley it has to be of a certain very high quality by definition.

Apologies..."KILL IT WITH FIRE" was taken the wrong way...

No sweat. That's just how you kill all alien pod people who are devoid of emotion. From Alien to The Thing to Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the remake)
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer
66. Re: Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer Oct 9, 2015, 17:49 Flatline
 
As far as the video, the nitpicky geek in me points out that the vertical shock wave in those explosions has no reason to actually originate from where it does on the ship. They just put it there because it's symmetrical. It probably should be emanating either from the power reactor or the weakest part of the ship depending on how you choose to describe the physics of the explosion.

The 90's called though and want their lens flares back.
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer
65. Re: Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer Oct 9, 2015, 17:45 Flatline
 
Vall Forran wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:39:
Flatline wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 17:16:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 12:37:
This is a video from the third-party contractor working with CIG for facial animations: https://vimeo.com/122667590

As for the explosions, they look pretty awesome to me.

KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE

That landed so squarely in the uncanny valley that it made me shiver.

...Because we'd rather have "It's a bomb!" from Deus Ex. Jesus.

Seriously? All I said is that it hit the uncanny valley. The textures and the actual facial animations look great. There's no body language though and it looks so good that my brain expects there to be more nonverbal communication and recoils when there isn't.

Take a fucking pill dude. In order for something to hit the uncanny valley it has to be of a certain very high quality by definition.
 
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News Comments > Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth - Rising Tide Rises
2. Re: Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth - Rising Tide Rises Oct 9, 2015, 17:41 Flatline
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 12:31:
Looks... underwhelming.

Agreed. I really, really wanted to like Beyond Earth but it fell really flat.
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer
62. Re: Star Citizen Ship Explosion Trailer Oct 9, 2015, 17:16 Flatline
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 9, 2015, 12:37:
This is a video from the third-party contractor working with CIG for facial animations: https://vimeo.com/122667590

As for the explosions, they look pretty awesome to me.

KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE

That landed so squarely in the uncanny valley that it made me shiver.
 
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News Comments > Voice Actors Authorize Strike
19. Re: Voice Actors Authorize Strike Oct 8, 2015, 13:27 Flatline
 
PHJF wrote on Oct 8, 2015, 13:06
If they want to be paid more, they can argue for more up front or per session. [/quote:

Er... isn't that what they're doing? Arguing up front for more money?
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
206. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 7, 2015, 16:42 Flatline
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 6, 2015, 16:31:
But seriously, did you actually bring up Freespace Open in a topic about Star Citizen? At least Elite: Dangerous is in the same ballpark; Freespace Open looks like it's from the 90s... because it is.

20 years and 100 million dollars later and I still enjoy the combat in Freespace 2 more than Arena Commander.
 
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News Comments > No SC Retraction from The Escapist
110. Re: No SC Retraction from The Escapist Oct 7, 2015, 15:42 Flatline
 
Vio wrote on Oct 7, 2015, 15:20:
So I guess this is the perfect time to get a update: can you warp between systems yet?

As long as your target and origin system are the same absolutely.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry Primal Announced
10. Re: Far Cry Primal Announced Oct 6, 2015, 13:52 Flatline
 
The Half Elf wrote on Oct 6, 2015, 13:34:
Setting is unique, but I just don't see it being fun beyond rock, spear, fire, bow.

I don't even see how that would be sufficient to kill a pissed off feral hog. Boarspears were like 14 feet long with prongs for a reason.

If they're smart they'll come up with an elaborate trap system that uses basic components you can combine in a sandboxy sort of way.
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
180. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 23:49 Flatline
 
Kxmode wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 22:51:
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 21:45:
Technically CIG can sue in the UK and thus, in the EU.

According to their Terms of Services they can't.

XXII. Disputes & Binding Arbitration
E. Location
Any arbitration shall be initiated in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America. Any Dispute not subject to arbitration, or where no election to arbitrate has been made, shall be decided by a court of competent jurisdiction within the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America, and you and RSI agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of that court. The application of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded.

- Cloud Imperium in headquartered in Santa Monica, CA, 90401.
- The Escapist's phone number is (212)244-4307 which is the same number as their parent company Defy Media who is located in New York. They have an office in Los Angeles.

Basically there's no way this would be a EU case. It wouldn't even be a New York case. Everything would happen in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America; which is under the legal jurisdiction of California. Actually any backer is protected under specific California laws because those are the laws Cloud Imperium must operate under.

TOS only applies if you're entered into a contract/agreement with CIG. And Escapist probably isn't.
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
179. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 23:48 Flatline
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 21:45:
In the EU laws are different. And as journalist you better have DAMN SOLID PROOF if you claim criminal actions that someone else commits. Otherwise you can pay up to a few million . Google Kachelmann + Bild for example, and UK has even more severe punishments.

Technically CIG can sue in the UK and thus, in the EU.

From pure entertainment standpoint, I'd be curious if CIG would actually do that though, since a court would *check* if the allegations are true.

Popehat totally covers this. Go read the article.
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
130. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 16:53 Flatline
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 16:28:
Who says they need any more money?

Chris Roberts.

Edit:

Here's a thing: November 2014 he says SC will have a budget of at least 100 million by the time it ships. Which is a number they haven't crossed yet.

https://tinyurl.com/qf77ya7
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
129. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 16:51 Flatline
 
jdreyer wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 16:13:
Flatline wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 15:59:
Actually the legal threat was dated Oct 1st, so the response may have been with the letter in mind.

Chris's original response to the Escapist article was posted Oct 1, but the legal response was posted Oct 4 on the same page.

I was going by the date on the letter. Which was the 1st. If it was emailed/scanned/overnighted it's possible that it reached Escapist before the response.

Shit you're right it was written on October 2nd my bad.
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
119. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 15:59 Flatline
 
jdreyer wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 15:57:
Timmeh wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 15:55:
here is escapist response...

Escapist update

That pretty much slams the door in the face of CR and the claims of people thinking this is all DS. Its obvious DS was just in the know with some of these people and maybe others.

Something anyone invested with the game should care about.

These are real ex and current employees and i for one accept that these people are basically telling the truth. (because i live in the real world)



Yeah, that came out before CR's legal threat. I'd like to see their response to the legal threat. Although a proper response is to let your lawyer handle it, so we'd probably hear nothing.

Actually the legal threat was dated Oct 1st, so the response may have been with the letter in mind.
 
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News Comments > CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit
114. Re: CIG Demands Escapist Retraction; Threatens Lawsuit Oct 5, 2015, 15:45 Flatline
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 5, 2015, 14:32:
So to avoid bad press CIG decided to draw attention to a negative article in the hopes it would increase funding? Seems legit. The non-cynic would suggest that Chris Roberts is outraged that his wife has been attacked and is doing everything he can to defend her but then that doesn't fit the conspiracy theories people love around here.

1. You're assuming that further purchases/investments are due to a steadily expanding market share. We don't have the numbers, so it's pure conjecture on our part one way or another. But I suspect between major releases and modules there's a big slump in market share growth. It's people already franchised into the game that probably provide the lion's share of money.

2. That occurred to me too, but if that was the case why did CR respond the way he did (as quoted by the Escapist) and then have his co-founder write a letter that threatened to lawyer up the day after being approached?

Most people who were pissed would default straight to the lawyering up/C&D demand. Unless of course the Escapist sent him a version that didn't contain allegations against his wife. Which actually would be easily provable.
 
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