Alamar wrote on Sep 29, 2011, 20:09:

Drezden wrote on Sep 29, 2011, 19:26:

Lev Arris wrote on Sep 29, 2011, 18:17:

Jerykk wrote on Sep 29, 2011, 12:26:
Dear marketing team(s),

Please stop using dubstep soundtracks in your trailers. Thank you.

Slight difference between slapping dubstep on a trailer, and paying someone to make a dubstep version of the original Syndicate music.

Maybe I only picked that up though because I have played the original game.

As soon as I heard the Syndicate theme start up it made me giddy, so no you weren't alone.

heh same, but it only lasted a few seconds...

It's like... Doctor Who... I like the new one, and the new music has grown on me, but it's all about the wooooowooooooo (You know what I mean).

-Alamar

Go get the mp3 of the facebook page, pretty much the entire song is that Syndicate theme. Just with dubstep bass wackyness over the top of it. But the breakouts with classic Syndicate goodness shine through.

But it definately brings back the memories.

Jerykk wrote on Sep 29, 2011, 12:26:
Dear marketing team(s),

Please stop using dubstep soundtracks in your trailers. Thank you.

Slight difference between slapping dubstep on a trailer, and paying someone to make a dubstep version of the original Syndicate music.

Maybe I only picked that up though because I have played the original game.

Not one Origin game listed. All the series had great manuals, written as though from people within the universe. Ultima, Wing Commander, Crusader, I still have the Ultima 6 compendium.

It might not seem like a big dealio to re-download that 8GB, but the majority of internet access in OZ is based on download quota's for each month. For example im paying $75/month for a 40GB limit.

So to re-download that 8GB can take out quite a chunk, especially if you have already thrown away 8GB the first time around.

Pity they jacked the standard Aussie price up by about 10% at the same time. Making it more like a 15% discount. Went from $59USD, to $69USD, then had the 25% discount applied down to $52.49USD.

And before you ask, no the prices are not in AU dollars, everything for us is in US dollars, albiet jacked up nice and high to encourage digital ditribution.

You think the crappy exchange rate would be enough, but apparently it costs a lot in shipping to send megabytes overseas.

Classic game, the view distances were what made this game stand out, could see for miles. Was just a damn fun game.

The FMV did have a cheese factor in this game, but I point you to the Wing Commander series, Crusader Series, and Privateer 2. Mark Hamill, an incredibly young Clive Owen, and Biff Henderson.

Holy crap. Ive been itching for a good flight sim since strike commander. That video was awesome. Still the game could have been nothing like it, but man.

Oh yeah, retarded just woken up, accidental double-click fail.

Always knew it was slowly circling the drain after they bought Ratbag games, then a few months later canned the studio, and fired everyone.

Always knew it was slowly circling the drain after they bought Ratbag games, then a few months later canned the studio, and fired everyone.

Yeah eat it you bastards from the rest of the world. Compare yourselves to our moral standards and then weep!

Actually this decision is just plain retarded, even though it benefits me.

Annnnd....So long as the Co-op is network play. Not some spilt-screen Kane & Lynch XBox480 controller BS.

Reading that first paragraph just made me think of Strike Commander so much. But i mean, 4 player co-op dogfighting, hell yes.

So long as it is playable over lan on the PC and not some split-screen garbage. ugh...

If it had co-op, like not shared keyboard co-op, this is the kind of thing i would buy straight away.

In fact, games like this should always have co-op!!

Problem being, that in Aus, there is no R rating. So the highest possible is MA15+.

Which is kinda confusing if you have a rating system to advise people on what is suitable, yet limit it. Movies can get a R rating, so why not games?

Not a big deal, because New Zealand DO rate up to R, and it's just a shipping cost away. Did this for GTA:SA.

"You mean you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?"

If you get to play as Fessik, and battle local gangs for charity it will be worth it. And throw rocks at people.
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I had no interest in this, until i saw it had the Co-op. Plus that interview where the guy said it looked like it played a lot like the movie Heat.

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I mean it would be called a matrix-y kinda rip-off, but really a Syndicate movie would write itself! And it don't ever get a mention

t's misleading because I bet if you asked most owners of ATI X700, X800, and X850 series video cards, they would say that there cards are "better" than an X1300 (or at least they would have before they found out that Bioshock won't run on them).

Again, you can't bring subjectiveness into this. I might think that my computer is the roxxor, doesn't make it true. If you are looking at the requirements and you see the words 'better than', I would think its a pretty safe assumption to make that it means later model. Not better because it's over clocked with some water cooling. At least thats what the publisher thought people would take the requirement to mean.

Sure the format is standard. That doesn't make it sufficiently explicit since not suppporting still popular cards like the X700/X800/X850 series is a pretty big omission that could have been sufficiently listed in a few words.

But where does the listing stop though?

CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz Single Core processor

Would you look at that and think "Well when my cpu is over clocked i can manage 2.4Ghz". I'm sure there are some popular CPU's out there too that didn't rate a listing.

If people want to hope that their PC will run it even though their card isn't listed, that's their problem. If they are unsure, thats what demo's and those crazy online requirement site's are for.

It is simply part of my overall point that Take 2 mislead buyers on this game. Agree with me or don't, but I can certainly empathize with those customers with affected video cards.

How were they misled? Requirements specified, requires internet activation.

Unless people genuinely thought the game would be released without any copy protection. I seriously doubt anyone would. As to securerom being retarded, ill agree with that. It didn't screw up for me, but i guess i was lucky.

But I don't think you can just claim they are lying to everyone. That's a bit unfair

The problem is that if all of the requirements were like the ones that Take 2 posted, then it would have done no good because they were still the same damn vague and misleading ones listed on the box.

They may be vague, in a loose definition, but exactly how are they misleading? They don't state something that is untrue.

The bottom line is that you can't justifiably blame the consumer when the publisher doesn't provide him with clear and explicit information about a game's system and DRM requirements at the time of purchase. Take 2 did not do that with Bioshock.

I don't know if there is some 'System Requirements' listing convention, but that

Video Card: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 128MB RAM (NVIDIA 6600 or better/ATI X1300 or better, excluding ATI X1550).

looks like a pretty standard format I have seen on many a box.

I don't recall discussing the copy-protection, so please don't try to wedge it in to strengthen your position.
This comment was edited on Aug 24, 04:22.