Riahderymnmaddog wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 10:33:

Angrius Maximis wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 08:15:
new patch
232 viewers on twitch

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What kind of person watches Twitch? I personally would rather play games or live life over watching someone else any day

Xero wrote on Jul 25, 2019, 13:41:
Sad to hear it's not all that living up to expectations. Even if it's a little worse than Wolfy 2 I'd be willing to give it a shot. I know Wolfy 2 took a lot of criticism but I had a blast with it.

Thing is, I'm too old for coop games, lol. I prefer most of my games solo these days and if the game mostly centers around coop, I'm not sure how much I'll dig it even if they do allow single player while a retard bot follows you around.

Wouldn't it have been easy enough to just allow an entire solo mode? No coop friend or AI?

CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 24, 2019, 06:54:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 18:08:
Snapped up a Rog Strix 2080ti yesterday at 35% off, primarily due to how quiet it functions

Yeah, that's what the reviews say but real world is a different story with Asus cards in my experience.

I owned a ROG Strix 2080 (non-Ti) a few months ago and also got it because of the ability to easily switch it to silent BIOS mode.
What sounded good on paper was invalidated by a severe case of coil whine. I haven't had a card screaming like this in many years and since I have a 144Hz G-Sync display I already limit my FPS to 142fps so it wasn't just an issue at very high rates. The whine was unreal even at relatively low fps.

The second issue was its fan controls. The fans had the annoying habit of spinning up and down when you were near the temperature threshold where the fans activate. This caused the card to emit an annoying kind of pump-like sound, also invalidating any "silent" mode feature. The root cause is that the card has a shitty hysteresis by default. You can somewhat fix this manually by setting a custom fan curve in MSI Afterburner.
I have read reviews of people online who RMAed their cards thinking this noise was caused by a broken fan but it's not a defect. It's just crappy design.

I got rid of the Asus ROG RTX 2080 and have owned a Palit RTX 2080Ti and now a MSI GamingX Trio RTX 2080Ti which are much better cards IMO. The Palit was a little noisier because it has only two fans but neither the Palit nor the MSI have any coil whine (at least not at <= 142fps) and also no other annoying "side noises" like the Asus card.

I love Asus mainboards but I won't ever get a Strix ROG graphics card again. I have no idea why they are getting such glowing reviews everywhere. Must be that Asus are handing out good "incentives" or something or they are always very generous when it comes to providing review samples. The hardware itself seems to be massively overrated in any case. I'll keep sticking to Gainward/Palit (same company), MSI whenever possible since they have served me the best over the years.

Grokk wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 21:13:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 18:08:
Snapped up a Rog Strix 2080ti yesterday at 35% off, primarily due to how quiet it functions and in preparation for my next purchase... a 3440 X 1440 120hz WQHD ultrawide monitor (my 980ti struggles at 1440p these days).

So this news is good for me at least, but not unexpected due to the performance of the other Super cards and the 2080S Final Fantasy benchmark leak from a few days back.

Good for me too!

I went all in last week and got the 2080ti and i9-9900k.
Before buying, I did a lot of research and spent hours pouring through garbage from fanboys on both sides, but in the end I decided to go Intel solely because of the motherboard and single core speed.

I felt dirty dropping $6k AUD on a new PC, but I got 7 years out of the last one, minus a couple video card upgrades at an average of 6+ hours a day usage, so I think it'll be a worthwhile investment.

jdreyer wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 21:12:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 20:40:

Luke wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 20:11:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 18:08:
Snapped up a Rog Strix 2080ti yesterday at 35% off, primarily due to how quiet it functions and in preparation for my next purchase... a 3440 X 1440 120hz WQHD ultrawide monitor (my 980ti struggles at 1440p these days).

So this news is good for me at least, but not unexpected due to the performance of the other Super cards and the 2080S Final Fantasy benchmark leak from a few days back.

Hardware addiction so sorry for those who are trapped

Dear console pleb,

Yeah, cause updating my 4 year old PC is a clear sign of an 'addiction', as is buying something almost 12 months after it's release during a sale...

Speaking of mental issues, you probably should check yourself into rehab as you appear to suffering from from a severe case of jealousy / butthurtism

Any recommendations on what i should buy next with all this disposable income and tax return money?! Upgrade my old 6700k for any extra 5 fps? Maybe a $300 gaming mouse? RGB lighting for my mouse mat? Hmmm....

I'd love to see how'd you'd react if you saw how much money i spend on my other hobbies!

The $1000 monitor stand. Obviously.

Luke wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 20:11:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 23, 2019, 18:08:
Snapped up a Rog Strix 2080ti yesterday at 35% off, primarily due to how quiet it functions and in preparation for my next purchase... a 3440 X 1440 120hz WQHD ultrawide monitor (my 980ti struggles at 1440p these days).

So this news is good for me at least, but not unexpected due to the performance of the other Super cards and the 2080S Final Fantasy benchmark leak from a few days back.

Hardware addiction so sorry for those who are trapped

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 8, 2019, 04:28:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 8, 2019, 02:03:

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 23:18:
Also I wish benchmarks for CPU would include the end-turn time in Warhammer 2 mortal empires.

From memory tomshardware did civ 6 AI times which may be somewhat comparable?

The problem with CIV6 is that it is too short to really tell us anything. Turns in WH2 are around 30 to 300 seconds (yes, that span is real).... and if Ryzen has boost issues or the new mainboards have issues then it would be very far from 50 seconds ^^

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 23:18:
Also I wish benchmarks for CPU would include the end-turn time in Warhammer 2 mortal empires.

CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 20:46:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 19:02:
Hmmm... was honestly hoping for a little bit more.

Same here. The AMD fanbois said that Zen2 would "annihilate" or "curb-stomp" Intel but that hasn't really happened, especially not in gaming.

Now i'm undecided, 3900 or a 9900 with a little overclock. Gaming is pretty much all the PC will do.

Will be paired with a 2800ti and running 3440 widescreen. Aiming to make the PC as silent as possible as well.

If you are buying now then I'd consider AMD. In spite of the beefy 2080Ti, you will be GPU-limited when playing at ultra settings most of the time. The CPU is not that important anyway.

An AMD platform *might* be more future-proof. AMD promised that socket AM4 would last until 2020 so it is possible that Ryzen 4000 CPUs will also work on current boards.
Intel OTOH is definitely end of the road. 9900K + Z390 board = guaranteed dead end.

However, AMD also said at the Zen 2 reveal that it was "challenging" to make Zen 2 compatible with the current socket so maybe they were hinting at the end of the AM4 socket next year. If they introduced a new socket in 2020 it would not even technically be a "lie" because AM4 did last until 2020.

The "silent as possible" part could be problematic with Zen 2. Almost all X570 boards have an active chipset fan. Some are throttling (esp. MSI boards), some aren't.
German site Computerbase claimed that the unthrottled 2500rpm chipset fan on the Asus Crosshair Hero is "inaudible" but I call extreme bullshit on that. It would be the first 2500rpm fan in computing history that is inaudible. They probably had an open setup and weren't in a silent room to begin with.
And let's not even get started with regard to longevity... that 2500rpm fan is likely to turn into a buzz saw in ~2 to 3 years.

I'd say very careful research is advisable, i.e. wait for X570 board reviews and user reviews.
The X570 boards are also expensive as fuck by the way. The Asus Crosshair Hero is €425 while the Intel Z390 equivalent Asus Maximus Hero is "only" €289.

For a silence lover it might make more sense to simply buy a decent X470 board which is much cheaper, too. There shouldn't be any performance loss according to AMD but one might want to wait for X470/Zen 2 reviews to be sure.

Wouldn't mind pcie4 for future proofing, but not sure if it's worth paying more for it?

Nah. Check out this link from the 5700XT reviews:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pci-express-4-0-performance-scaling-radeon-rx-5700-xt/

There was also a test of the m.2 Corsair PCIe 4.0 SSD somewhere around here and it hit new highs in synthetic benchmarks. Real world difference is non-existent though unless you constantly copy large, contiguous files between SSDs for some reason.

ForgedReality wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 20:16:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 19:58:
45db and performance all over the place? Well that's... disappointing.

Was quietly hoping they'd pull something out of their sleeve to at least bring Nvidia's pricing inline a bit but meh.

LULULULULULUULULULUL!!!!!11 You were hoping the last almost 15 years would be just an aberration or something and suddenly, one day, AMD would stand a chance? HAHA!! No. Bring back ATi, and maybe nVidia would have some competition. But, I mean, if you want cheap garbage that you have to upgrade in 6 months, there's always AMD as an option.