If there are not mods for those things you guys mentioned/joked about I cannot imagine they would be hard to make for this game. It's been mod friendly since forever. I'm not sure steam would host a WW2 deathlabour camp but there is nothing about the game engine which would preclude such a thing if someone felt so inclined. Could be a good historical learning tool but a bit rough on actual survivors having to deal with the media shitstorm that would follow such a release.

As for an official release I don't think that would make much sense. I don't know how the new devs would handle it but the OG guys had a vision for it, kind of an apolitical US Tv/B movie inspired vibe where the horror and injustice of the prison industrial complex becomes yours to discover and be complicit in (As we all are just by paying taxes) rather than being force fed it through heavy handed narratives or on the nose headline stealing mechanics. Of course they opened it waaaay up for mods so it's not like they are against the idea of their game doing that, it's just not the path they chose. To it's benifit I think.

FloorPie wrote on Oct 21, 2019, 02:02:
"I suppose the issue is, I don't consider it price gouging. The $40 base game was a full game in it's own right."

Except when it isn't. Take two games Paradox published last year, Surviving Mars and Battletech. $40 games that dropped to $20 or less during sales with year one dlc that costs more than the base game. It has been $1 cheaper to rebuy Surviving Mar's Gold version for months now when the game is on sale. A game that was just given away for free on Epic store.

Paradox just announced a new game that will be exclusive to Epic store. If Paradox tries their standard dlc tactics there with no frequent sales or price competition, I doubt the game will do well.

Put a few dozen hours into SM, seems alright, but I think it only found it's footing with post-release changes. Didn't get the DLC. I guess you could argue it wasn't a full game on release as it needed so many changes afterwards, but so did the combat mechanics of every witcher game and nobody claims that because the itnernet rage mobs ride that CDP shlong all day and night.

I put 100 hours into Battletech. Still didn't get the DLC. Amazing game, it's not just a fully realised product it has more than enough content for 2 or 3 good Battletech games. I'll grab the other stuff some other time when I want to dive back in. Your argument sounds insane.

Darks wrote on Oct 20, 2019, 18:56:

Choobeastia wrote on Oct 20, 2019, 12:44:

BIGtrouble77 wrote on Oct 20, 2019, 02:32:

Darks wrote on Oct 20, 2019, 02:13:

BIGtrouble77 wrote on Oct 19, 2019, 21:35:

Darks wrote on Oct 19, 2019, 19:02:
Freed huh? yea, there is nothing free about this POS game. its all locked behind DLC. Cost you 20 times more to unlocked everything then it would have to just buy the game. Screw that BS!!!

It's funny that everyone that doesn't play this game has this opinion, while the rest of us that do play the game like the DLC policy.

And you are exactly why these shit heel publishers do the shit they do. You must be so proud!!

Even with all the DLC paid at full price, my price per hour played is ridiculously low. That's the only metric I care about.

I'm right there with you. Even if I paid the full $191 for Stellaris, plus 3 full expansions, plus many story packs and others, I am at about $0.15 an hour with 1281 hours played. It would cost me more than that in gas to go to a nearby donut shop and just look at the donuts.

Basically, the PDX model is a proper business model to keep up with inflation, and not something designed to bilk some people out of tons of cash via micro-transactions and loot boxes.

You guys are a bunch of delusional assholes. I dont care how you break it down,. price gouging is gouging no matter how you guys try and justify it. SMH!!!

I pay people for their work as a general rule. If I don't want to buy something I don't. easy.

It's not manipulative like World of Tanks, where you have to put cash down to stay competitive eventually, the main game is as good and as fully featured as any game of it's type ever released. Making content is expensive, they should charge for it. If it sucks people wont buy it. It freaks me out how upset you are about this, do you work for free? Are you from some socialist post scarcity future paradise where everyone gets all the things and the culture shock is still hard to deal with?

There are so many things I, and I imagine you, do not spend money on but we could. We inform ourselves and decide where our limited income goes. There are so many actual, predatory systems out there, and I have tried them all. This isn't one in any way, shape or form.

8 years of post release support and all I had to do was let other pople fund it and buy the few pieces of content I had interest in? Sign me the fuck up.

Surprised the base game isn't F2P already. I have no problem with their DLC model, the OG game was great, each DLC just increases the scope and bling, but after 30 years or whatever it has been it really needs some kind of refactoring, maybe anyone with the game gets everything from before 3 years ago or something. Just because it's such a mess. I used to keep an eye out and buy anything at 80% off but it's gotten way too confusing!

RedEye9 wrote on Oct 16, 2019, 18:47:

phinn wrote on Oct 16, 2019, 16:35:
That TechSpot PS4 controller article is linking a VERY out of date DS4Windows program. The current one is updated regularly here:
https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows/releases

thanks phinn

Riahderymnmaddog wrote on Oct 16, 2019, 17:34:
Why would anyone want to go through the hassle of using a PS4 controller when the XBOX controller just works.

Probably because it's what they have. It does not look like a hassle but whatev.

It's also got a superior D-pad, if that's important. Old games and modern 2d games are way better on it.

X1 contoller is the king right now though for everything else, and the elite is his god.

Slashman wrote on Oct 13, 2019, 22:33:
Wow, so do we think there's enough Destiny 2 up there or what?

Certainly not enough time to play it like I want to! Really need to no-life this shit and get in a clan to raid but even before new baby arrives this seems almost impossible. Really enjoyed my 120 hours in vanilla and D1 before that. This is the best it's ever been, just need to compartmentalise and try not to think about that quest screen too much. Knock down a few at a time.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 8, 2019, 19:03:

Squirmer wrote on Oct 8, 2019, 18:40:
Is it just the Epic exclusive you're still pissed about?

I don't care what platform a game is on so that is not it.

This looks like a mobile game, one in wherein my GPU would be 80% underutilized.

If hardware utilisation is your benchmark for quality then you are in luck. I there is some good free benchmark and stress test software for your... enjoyment.

I've known guys like this, your legal system is broken but it's known for over incarceration not the opposite. Confidential Informant 100%.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Oct 4, 2019, 18:41:
I had migrated my account over when they mentioned it a month or two ago, installed on Steam and played a bit. I don't have Forsaken or Shadowkeep, but what I do have available is still.. a little boring.

All my gear has been jumped up to 750 though, interestingly enough. Even some very low level legendaries I had in my inventory are the new intro minimum level, which is nice.

hit up holloway in the hangar for the free/legacy campaigns. theres a lot of free strikes and raids but you wont get the best gear without SK.

No shandakar no play! I love MTG but I wont give money to them outside of the awesome snapshot games they did for a few ears there.


I mean, when there is a price for competitive entry I might as well play world of tanks.

fujiJuice wrote on Sep 26, 2019, 21:43:
Sounds like perfect grounds for a lawsuit.

Lawsuits are for rich people. For everyone else they are a moderator.

I love it when large multinationals fuck!

Good, one of the best shows ever but go out strong Bojack. You got this!

Oh fuck they name drop Baba is You. My money is yours horrible frustrating roguelike game! (I keep buying them but I'm so garbage, even on Spelunky where I do 9 out of ten daily challenge runs).

Creston wrote on Sep 24, 2019, 15:26:
$144,500. Methinks you're a few zeroes short there, Boeing.

I'm guessing this is the "Non-white people" price? So wonderful!

Used to be a great company, quality engineering brought the profit. Now it's just profit however you can get it. How fucking hard is it to make money when you are one of only two companies making large passenger planes? Bloated monster of a corporation, juiced up on defence contracts and other subsidies. Free trade is a lie.

MindStalker3 wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 09:28:

NKD wrote on Sep 22, 2019, 19:14:
It'll be interesting to see how they manage to get this colony stuff and the need for fast-forward space travel to work together.

Hopefully by making them separate sandboxes. No reason your local colony and your remote colony (or interstellar fairing ship) need to be time synced with each-other. FF one shouldn't FF the other. Time should slow to a reasonable speed or stop for whatever system you aren't actively managing.

FF is heavily abstracted for craft you are not controlling already in Kerbal, Colonies shouldn't be a problem. I'm not sur ehow they handle population growth or independant colony expansion but it seems like it wouldn't be too intensive/difficult to expand whilst you are warping about if they don't decide to just halt it (Which would suck a bit but who knows).

I thought I was way past getting excited for this shit. But I can't help it. A better optimised, prettier MP capable Kerbal? Sign me up!

Just hope the cockpits are fully clickable and operable. Some of the lander modules had enough basics to get by, but I want that co-op thrill of the F14B in DCS but in my monstrous crime against physics rockets and landers.

Maybe wanting to inflict nailbiting landings, atmospheric combustion and crater generation maneouvors on my family is a sign there is something wrong with me but I can't help but feel if they nail it, it will be the best game ever, a title I think KSP1 already holds despite being a sometimes janky jankothon.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Sep 19, 2019, 00:33:
Vick is a hero. He has donated 10 million to inner city charities and cares for abused women.

Just because the greedy, overpaid, talented or idle rich attempt to launder their deservedly garbage reputations by manipulating public opinion through their obscene wealth and some good can and does come of it, does not make them a fucking prick worthy of scorn and, in the event that hell exists, that.

I'm an old nerd with opinions raaaaaaaaaaage oh, this isn't so bad. It wouldn't be my list, maybe only 2 or three games on it but it's well reasoned and like all criticism, subjective.

Minecraft (2009) -Respects players ability to work things out. Near limitless ability to modify the world itself.

Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild -Dosn't bite for everyone, but it's learned the lessons of Dark Souls and Witcher 3. Exploration is as open ended, brutal and off-rails awesome at the '86 original. A game that makes empty space work for it.

Dark Souls (2011) - Respects players ability to work things out. Pity abou the MP hacks. I can see why it's some people's GOAT but it aint mine. Maybe a better PC port would have made things different.

Half-Life 2 (2004) - I'm not sure if I ever want to play it again, but I've been through half a dozen times. Very good important game, not sure how much it did other than the face and maybe physics shit that I would say pushed the genre forward, though lenghth, quality and set pieces are to be commended.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (2015) - Not my jam but I can see why this is the GOAT for some. Combat is still ass, eastern european both sides cynicism just isn't for me and is everything I hate about modern nerd culture.

Grand Theft Auto V (2013) - It sold a lot! Hard for me to put in top 10 though. RDR2 outdoes it for narrative for sure.

Halo: Combat Evolved (2001) - I love this fucking game. Probably the one I've finished the most, on every difficulty setting it's a different kind of fun. Split screen co-op, enemy AI that is fun to fight. Fucking hype. Makes me want to watch Starship troopers and join the space fascist navy!

Portal 2 (2011) - Phenomenal game. I guess it's better than the first, I recommend both to everyone to be played in order. Probably deserves to be here though I doubt I'll ever go back. It's not as dynamic as some of the murder sims here so it's always going to play sam-ish and the jokes are all done, like my beloved lucasarts adventures.

BioShock (2007) - Get it off! A flawed but brilliant game. Playing the remaster reminded me that it's a shadow of the promise of Thief/Ultime Underworld/System shock. But then what the fuck isn't. Newest Prey is a much better one of these.

Bloodborne (2015) - Meh. Faster Darksouls. I can see why people love it, and I'm a big believer in the gift of consolitist inspired "no-quick-save you fucking have to nail this section!" gameplay but I play to relax most the time. Still big respect. I got lost in some sewer and died after some amazing exploration and nailbiting combat but lost so much progress I never want to experience it again. (Unless it gets Sekiro quality PC remake like DS needs)


Ok here is where you fucked up motherfuckers, top ten must haves this century according to all I can think of right now but I'll probably disagree with in the morning or forgot some 400 hours masterpiece but to be the greatest it needs to compare favorably to everything that came after, or at least that's how movies/books/creative peoples/scientists work:

1. Kerbal Space Program
2. Spelunky
3. Into the Breach
4. Factorio
5. Halo 3
6. Outer Wilds
7. BATTLETECH
8. Morrowind
9. Crusader Kings 2
10. Minecraft

Games that should be in top 10 but didn't quite nail it/too much room for improvement/in because my daughter loves playing them as well/idiots couldn't get matchmaking right in AU (PUBG)

Samurai Gunn, PUBG, all the civs, all the Behemoth games since Castle Crashers, mark of the Ninja, Elite, DCS, Chivalry, Sekiro:Shadows Die Twice, Destiny(s), heaps more probably!

CJ_Parker wrote on Sep 19, 2019, 19:31:

Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2019, 14:26:
Did they ever fix up the Arkham Knight port?

Yes, a long time ago. I played the GOTY back in August/September 2016 and it was all smooth sailing (wingsuiting? ) through an awesome game. I would definitely recommend getting the DLC as well. You absolutely want to play the GOTYs of the Arkham games because the DLC for all of the games is great (i.e. the story DLCs, of course, not the cosmetic/fluff ones).

To me, Knight was the pinnacle of the series. Playing them back to back, I found each Arkham game got a little better than the previous one and Knight is the culmination of awesomeness because it has the best world/city, best story, best atmosphere (the threat feels "real" and the world changes visually for a while), the awesome (mostly optional) batmobile, best characters, great visuals even though it is "only" Unreal 3, tons of attention to detail all over the place, entertaining side activities and the list goes on and on.

I'm not even a Batman/Marvel/spandex/superhero fan (and maybe that even helped because I was able to focus on the games and not how true they were to the lore) but this series easily ranks among my all-time favs.

Good to know. I loved Knight when it came out, got it on PS4 because I hadn't built a new PC at the time and loved it, it ran and looked magnificent and I think the gameplay and performances put the other games to shame, though Asylum and City have their own charms.

I tried it on gamepass on the XBOX1, a much more powerful system, and it didn't look as good or run as well as PS4 and I assume the same issues applied to PC... a phoned in port due to bad contracting deals/devs/whatevs. Back in 2015 or whatever it makes sense that it was lead platform for the wizards at Rocksteady but it still sucks that they irreparably damaged the franchise and the reputation of this fantastic game with the fuckery.