Prez wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 21:07:

Quinn wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 02:32:

Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 02:03:
That image is hilarious.
It deserves to be the centerpiece of the white fragility museum.
... somebody spent time making that

This is what some white male gamer somewhere considers racism... the desire for more representation in video game characters.
God what a tough life.

...What you don't seem to understand is that the majority of gamers don't give a fuck about diversity in their games ...

See I have to disagree there. I want diversity - when it is natural and fits the game's theme and isn't ham-fistedly shoehorned in to tick a box on someone's politically correct checklist. The developer of 'Kingdom Come - Deliverance' took flack from a vocal minority of 'diversity or else!' internet activists when it became apparent that his Medieval RPG set in Europe circa 1200 AD only had white people. As in historically accurate. This was incredibly stupid and showed a distinct lack of logical critical thinking - people just wanted to be mad. On the flip-side I was rolling my eyes heavily when a vocal minority of 'No women, minorities, or gays in my vidyagames!' internet activists railed against the quirky but interesting game 'Virginia' because the lead was a black female FBI agent. That was just as stupid and proves that there are idiots on both sides. Her inclusion was natural, well-done, and important. 'Her Story' was another one. "OMG - there's a woman lead in a game! ARGHHHH!!!!!" Never mind that her performance was brilliant in that game.

The problem specifically with Bioware games' romance choices is that they are virtually the definition of "ham-fistedly shoehorned in to tick a box on someone's politically correct checklist". That goes for the gay and straight options - it's so predictable that there will be two hot women and 2 hot guys (I guess - not into that sort of thing myself) in your party and if you chose the nicey-nice dialog option often enough with a certain one you can get a little video of some noogie. And the completely out-of-place comment of Hainley mentioning having a dick out of the blue in Andromeda was so awkward that it was almost painful. Bioware sucks at this to be honest. Want to have a transgender character in your game? Have at it - doesn't bother me. Just write it in a natural, sensible way that doesn't feel like Bioware screaming "Look transgender community - we threw you a bone!" It's so jarring that it detracts from the game - not because diversity is bad, but because the writing is so often terrible when it pertains to alternative lifestyles. I just generally stay quiet on the subject lest I get lumped in with those being accused of being racist, homophobic, over-privileged white dudes. Labels are all-too-easily thrown around when the discussion comes up.

Beamer wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 21:03:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 18:31:

Beamer wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 10:17:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 04:33:

Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 23:05:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 21:29:
I'd just kill for a game where political correctness wasn't shoved into my face. If a protagonist is white, blue, green, male, female, or neither, I don't care...I just want the game to be done in a way that makes it feel natural and not some pre-planned agenda.

What would constitute the shoving if it's not simple existence?
Does this require knowing developer intent from outside the game sources?

An obvious inclusion of something for the sake of including it when it has no direct requirement of existing.

A subjective example would be something like the Ghostbusters remake.

Yup, and the Baywatch remake, and the Texas Chainsaw remake, and the Wickerman remake, and the Planet of the Apes remake, and the Psycho remake, and the Arthur remake, and the Mummy remake...

Wait, no, we've just discovered that cynical remakes with no reason for existing are bad, not that diversity is forced. If you remember, the initial rumors for the Ghostbusters remake wasn't all women, so it was happening regardless. Unless you think the Ghostbusters remake would have had a reason for existing with a male cast, in which case...

The initial rumors for the Ghostbusters' remake were indeed about all-women because when it was found out the cast was already being discussed as such, and the rumors on that were that they weren't making an actual remake, but a continuation and that these were all related to the original cast in some way. Then those rumors turned into "well, maybe they are making new characters in the franchise universe", to what we got, which were female versions of the original characters that showed almost zero resemblance to said characters and were almost blatantly obvious as the answer to Hollywood being "hip to the womenz in strong roles".

The issue, these weren't strong roles for those casted and the writing for the movie totally dismissed the actual story in place of flipping gender stereotype roles in a very bad way...what we got was a horribly unfunny entry into an established franchise where all of the cast had no chemistry with one-another.

The other remakes you listed are a whole different story, as none of them tried to shoehorn an agenda into them to "prove a point" while ignoring what those franchises were about. Whether they are good or not is subjective, but on a whole, they aren't even close to what you're trying to compare them to.

Actually, the initial Ghostbusters remake rumors were Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth.

And how did it shoehorn an agenda? Because Paul Feig said something stupid? If you didn't hear that one quote, which was a reaction to people freaking out over vaginas in their 30 year old movie, would you have cared?

That they were women had no bearing on the poor quality of the movie.

Beamer wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 10:17:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 04:33:

Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 23:05:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 21:29:
I'd just kill for a game where political correctness wasn't shoved into my face. If a protagonist is white, blue, green, male, female, or neither, I don't care...I just want the game to be done in a way that makes it feel natural and not some pre-planned agenda.

What would constitute the shoving if it's not simple existence?
Does this require knowing developer intent from outside the game sources?

An obvious inclusion of something for the sake of including it when it has no direct requirement of existing.

A subjective example would be something like the Ghostbusters remake.

Yup, and the Baywatch remake, and the Texas Chainsaw remake, and the Wickerman remake, and the Planet of the Apes remake, and the Psycho remake, and the Arthur remake, and the Mummy remake...

Wait, no, we've just discovered that cynical remakes with no reason for existing are bad, not that diversity is forced. If you remember, the initial rumors for the Ghostbusters remake wasn't all women, so it was happening regardless. Unless you think the Ghostbusters remake would have had a reason for existing with a male cast, in which case...

HorrorScope wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 10:52:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 4, 2018, 04:33:
A subjective example would be something like the Ghostbusters remake.

Sad to see what threatens you, we have all kinds of real issues and you worry about a fictional piece of work called Ghostbusters, which was remade with girls. Have you ever sat down and contemplated about some of these things that get to you, maybe a deep rooted issue within yourself?

You know why a girls version of GB was made? Because money marketeers in Hollywood felt that was a great way to make money and they have data to back that. It was made to generate money, same as it ever wuz. If you want more sausage-fest movies gather all your buddies and start going to the movies more and support dude-movies. Go so often that you can show dem girls... not to mess with you.

Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 23:05:

DarkCntry wrote on Aug 3, 2018, 21:29:
I'd just kill for a game where political correctness wasn't shoved into my face. If a protagonist is white, blue, green, male, female, or neither, I don't care...I just want the game to be done in a way that makes it feel natural and not some pre-planned agenda.

What would constitute the shoving if it's not simple existence?
Does this require knowing developer intent from outside the game sources?

CJ_Parker wrote on Jun 22, 2018, 18:27:
Ah yes, episodic gaming... this success story just keeps giving and giving one episode at a time... AWESOME!!!

Creston wrote on Jun 15, 2018, 22:29:
How the fuck are there people so fucking sad that "Achievement farming" is a goddamned THING???

Slick wrote on Jun 7, 2018, 22:33:
According to steam reviews this is a bullshit slimy marketing prank. There is no free weekend, it's a 10-minute demo and then you're hit with the BUY NOW screen.

Which is garbage because there's already a way to add a "demo" feature to your steam store page. Free weekends are supposed to be free weekends, not 10-minute advertisements.

I guess we can thank the zero Valve employees that looked at this before running it. And it's not like free weekends happen even 50 times a year...

CJ_Parker wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 21:32:

DarkCntry wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 21:20:

Sacrifice wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 21:12:
I see a lot of complaints about shovelware on Steam. That may be true, but do people browse directly on Steam for new games? I just use gaming sites like Blues News to find games that I might like.

What I don't really understand is that people are getting so bent out of shape when it's really nothing different except instead of physical copies of shit games being on store shelves, we have digital copies of shit games on virtual shelves.

I can remember walking into various stores and seeing shit games all over the shelves back in the mid-90s, you didn't see me complain to the store, I just moved on and bought something that I wanted.

That comparison is not very good at all because brick & mortar stores always kept a conservative stock of current games only in maybe an aisle or two at most.

Steam's "stock" spans over a decade of game releases and thousands upon thousands of games.

For a more apt comparison, imagine a brick & mortar store that is filled to the brim with fifty aisles of game boxes and extra displays and shovelware out da azz.

Then try to find a good indie game, i.e. one of the underrated gems that is really awesome (no one here is arguing that finding GTA V is hard, I hope) but that is buried between other boxes about mid-way in aisle no. 37.

Cutter wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 17:33:
And Valve owes them what exactly?

Sacrifice wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 21:12:
I see a lot of complaints about shovelware on Steam. That may be true, but do people browse directly on Steam for new games? I just use gaming sites like Blues News to find games that I might like.

jdreyer wrote on May 27, 2018, 13:07:
I was wondering if any of that stuff was true or not. I've been aware of TB for years, but never watched his vids of followed anything surrounding them.

Still, it's shitty to crap on someone you had a disagreement with just as they passed.

heroin wrote on May 28, 2018, 03:40:
Yeah, what the hell - that list looks like it could be out of the Walmart budget bin.

thecakeisalie wrote on May 18, 2018, 14:47:
I am not willing to forgive them putting the game out as pay-to-win with gambling boxes then only walking it back once the money started to dry up. It's a no sale for me at any price.

ForgedReality wrote on Apr 30, 2018, 16:47:
I love the Witcher series, don't get me wtong, but in the books, Geralt only ever has one sword--a silver one. Why the devs decided it was necessary to include another, regular, boring-old steel sword confounds me. It just adds unnecessary complexity and confusion for new players. Maybe they just wanted to create something that stands out from the crowd, much like Geralt himself, but, really, it's just more shit to manage in the game that was unnecessary to begin with.

I played through 2 and 3 but never played 1. I'm not sure I could trudge through it these days...

Stormsinger wrote on Mar 31, 2018, 00:05:
I'm sure the half-dozen fans of Boll's films won't be at all confused.

Frijoles wrote on Feb 23, 2018, 17:45:

Sepharo wrote on Feb 23, 2018, 14:26:
Maybe a new Defense since that's the only category yet to receive a new character.

Isn't Orisa defense?

Beamer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 07:03:

NicklePop wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 01:19:
Whatever you think of Trump -- at least it's not Hillary in office!

War hawk, sociopath, created the private prison complex.

Neocon.

Trump is Lincoln in comparison

You're the guy that said Christianity is the solution, right?