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News Comments > The Guitar Hero of Movies
8. Re: The Guitar Hero of Movies Jun 29, 2009, 12:25 Lorcin
lol free fleshlight in every box?  
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News Comments > The Guitar Hero of Movies
4. Re: *ahem* Jun 29, 2009, 11:24 Lorcin
wow this would take one hell of an ego to watch it back and not think "I'm a twat". Think how bad you sound on a tape recorder then multiply by how many dumb faces you'd pull trying to act!  
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
29. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 18:33 Lorcin
"at that time"

Now it is very common - then (when guild wars launched) for a mmo, especially a retail boxed one it was unheard of. Seriously name me one other retail boxed mmo from 2005 or eariler which was subscription free.
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
27. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 17:55 Lorcin
Section 14 again - states they can notify via their website.

Oops just realised lying in bed that section 14 is dealing with how the definition of the class can be changed. Guess I got that bit wrong. I still fail to see how terms and conditions cannot be legally binding by posting notifications or in mmo cases making you re-accept them (ala wow) every time they are changed. If you don't agree cancel the subscription properly and don't play - don't play then whinge and sue when you get caught by the small print.

Guild wars? Exception that proves the rule - especially considering they went out of their way to point out it didn't need monthly fees thereby proving that it was a generally accepted fact the mmo's did at that time.

I really don't know enough about the ins and outs of contract law regarding online contracts to justify continuing this the whole thing just seems like an attempt to get a ridiculous sum of money because one person has decided they represent over 100,000 disgruntled customers over technicalities and legalities of what happened when accounts were not kept/cancelled properly. Guess kinda like the RIAA in reverse.

If you want though my wife has just started her contract law module for her law degree - so I could ask her in a couple of months
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
23. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 17:08 Lorcin
Section 14 again - states they can notify via their website. Given the plantiffs list that in their case I assumed you meant it was up to Square to prove their innocence by providing the required 5 years of websites mirrors.

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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
21. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 17:03 Lorcin
Actually courts have ruled the opposite way in the past on this issue.

Omg so it's guilty until proven innocent now - that trully sucks. I'm off to bed but I think you've just ensured I have nightmares.
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
19. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 17:01 Lorcin

Do you work for Square-Enix Lorcin? You seem pretty invested in this.

Nope just always stunned at these sue cases.

An MMO game is not a utility or television service

Actually I can see no difference between an mmo and a tv subscription at all - theres no physical product and if you don't pay your subject to late fees for example here's a quote from Virginmedia faqs on payment.

What happens if I miss a payment?

We always ask you to make your payments by the ‘Payment due’ date on your bill. That’s because we may charge a £10 late payment fee if you don’t – and your services could be restricted.

I was a virgin customer for 4 years and didn't know they had this fee - it wasn't hidden just I never bothered to look because it didn't affect me (I was actually looking for a fee quote from my new ISP but turns out they don't do one :))

So it's ok for your local paper to charge you for issues you didn't receive due to a lapse in your subscription then charge you interest fees?

God yes - if I hadn't cancelled the subscription properly then yes I entirely would expect to still be charged. The onus would be on me to properly notify the papers subscription office and cancel my ongoing subscription not just cancel any future payments to said office.
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
17. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 16:50 Lorcin
Sorry worded that wrong. If I go over my overdraft limit my bank will send by a letter which costs a maximum of 30p and charge me £25 for the privilege. Whether it was hidden or not can't be determined without access to a mirror of the software from 2003. It could also be another attempt at the notification angle wherein the late charge was notify but not on the website or via law but through the playonline software.

Intrest charges was a seperate issue but the way I wrote the post that didn't come across. Again the issue is not whether they have the right to add interest to money owed (just ask my credit card company!) but rather whether the interest was listed as a charge.

Remembering that the burden of proof will be on Esther to prove that the fees were not listed anywhere - and if the court agrees that playonline is a hugely customised Internet browser and therefore an acceptable way of issues notification of changes - she may have a massively hard time providing a mirror of a site from 2003 to present including the all messages sent to playonline.
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
14. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 16:19 Lorcin
Actually no it's not a "ridiculous kneejerk reaction" it's a ridiculous lawsuit. That mmo need subscriptions is not up for question - and as I'm sure the box listed that online fees applied (the only boxes I currently have are English but the first copy I bought was on import from America and I'm 99% sure it was listed). The penalties for late fees? - fair enough, it's really not unusual for people to charge penalties when they recieve late payment - especially in this instance when there is no physical product and therefore the customers could have stopped the subscription instead of being late. Charging interest on money owed is the way of the world - without it all the bankers would be paupers.

Restriction of service if a bill is unpaid? My TV company would shut me down within days of me not paying why should Square provide a service to someone who is not prepared to pay for it.

"Termination of game data for late payment of fees" is a strange one I'm guessing somebody was so late paying their account got pruned (which used to happen pretty quickly if I remember). Again really they owe the company money and have continued to let it accrue by not settling the balance and cancelling the subscription through the proper channels at some point they will reach their credit limit if you like with square and will get pruned.

I can see how problems have occured - credit cards expired or subscriptions cancelled on the credit card/bank account but not with Square. Really this lawsuit only seem to be representing people who either didn't pay their account properly or cancel it properly and as they are such bad clients why should Sqaure continue to provide them with services.

I'm just guessing as the documents so far are very brief in details but I imagine in actually the basis behind this lawsuit is paragraph 14 of the statement (page 5 line 9) which states the information should be made avaliable on the website or sent direct to the customer. There is no provision there for notifications to made via the PlayOnline software therefore Square could technically be found in breach of the notifications. If the suit is hinging on that technicality this really is just another case of somebody trying it on for money.

This is yet another big case for a "Department of Common Sense" to come in and throw the thing out - unfortunaly such a department doesn't exist.

Oh and the bit about not being bothered to read 13 pages was a joke! That's why it had a smiley at the end.
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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
11. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 15:08 Lorcin
Congratulations on not reading the thread or article.

Yup sure I didn't read:

LOS ANGELES (CN) - A federal class action claims that online gaming company Square Enix of America deceived 100,000 customers by not being upfront about fees and penalties.
Named plaintiff Esther Leong of San Francisco says that Washington-based Square Enix lied about or concealed its monthly fees, penalties for late payments, interest, restrictions, and other things that should have been fully disclosed at points of purchase.
The class seeks damages of more than $5 million, alleging unfair business practices, false advertising, and unjust enrichment. It is represented by Ronald Makarem and
Michael Kim

Which is the entire article. The very first thing listed is monthly fees. Your not one of the plantiffs by any chance are you???

Oh I must confessed I didn't read the 13 page PDF in leagalise - I tried, but found myself compelled to scroll to the bottom and hit the accept button

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News Comments > Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit
7. Re: Final Fantasy XI Lawsuit Jun 25, 2009, 12:43 Lorcin
Jesus how sue happy do people want to be? Pretending ignorance that an MMO needs a subscription is just dumb. Unfortunatly due to the seriously messed up attitude of the world these people may actually be able to win the case when their basically saying "I'm really stupid so give me money".

Square should counter-sue based on the fact that if the plantiffs are intelligent enough to realise they may have a case then they are obviously smart enough to know it is subscription based anyway.

Also I'm sure it says online fees apply on the box giving fair warning as far as I'm concerned (I can't actually be bothered to go dig through and find a 7 year old game box though).
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters
27. Re: Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters Jun 16, 2009, 15:55 Lorcin
You know, the program that I legally own that came with my burner for doing legal things like making copies of data CDs and such? Yeah, that doesn't work if I play a game with Securom.

OK so it doesn't work with Nero, Alchohol etc - they contain virtual disk emulators. I'd hardly say it's unreasonable that anti-piracy software doesn't like software which can and is regularly used to make copies of games.

As for copying datadiscs - the OS can do that or imgburn does it brilliantly for free. Yes it came with the burner and you own it but you must be able to see that it contains features which cause game makers concern. Show the publishers some respect for wanting to protect their investment and change your burning software or give up gaming.

Whatever the way I just wish everybody would stop bitching about this completly overblown non-issue.
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters
22. Re: Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters Jun 16, 2009, 15:26 Lorcin
If you had actually read anything about the subject at all, you'd know that numerous companies have had their support lines swamped with people who ran out of activations for a game, etc.


Swamped with people so unlucky that their systems have crashed so completly and utterly that they couldn't use the activation revocation tools on 5 different occasions.

Or swamped with idiots who haven't realised they need to use the revoke tool after they installed it on their's nans, friends, pet chimpanzee's computer.

XP has activation limits too - or wait I guess you must use linux as obviously you'd never use software with activation limits.
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters
15. Re: Ships Ahoy - Ghostbusters Jun 16, 2009, 13:39 Lorcin
I'm still waiting to see all these problems DRM causes. I've only heard "friend of a friend" style urban myths that it has caused any actual problems in the past couple of years.

Everytime a game comes out with DRM the same idiots on here scream "WAAH DRM YOU JUST LOST A SALE". Personally if I were to release a game I'd make damn sure it was full of DRM to get rid of twats like that before they started bitching about every other little thing - "OH NOES IT NEEDS DIRECTX U JUST LOST SALES".

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News Comments > Out of the Blue
9. Re: Out of the Blue May 30, 2009, 16:57 Lorcin
That's horrible Blue - my mum went in October, I still haven't been brave enough to go back to the grave (doesn't help they then burried Jade Bloody goody in the same place).

By the way just to prove the UK does have some common sense - Susan Boyle just LOST the final of Britains Got Talent. (Diversity a dance group won)
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News Comments > Goodbye from 3D Realms
58. Re: Goodbye from 3D Realms May 9, 2009, 23:29 Lorcin
Can I go out on a limb and say "bothered".

The game was gonna suck anyway - we all knew it would and we were all waiting to slag it off. I'm not meaning to be rude to the developers but I can't think of anything I've waiting for 10+ years which was actually worth it.

I honestly believe there now needs to be a leak of what they did have - like a more complete HL2 alpha leak. Firstly to give the fans something (which knowing the PC ubernerds would end up completed in 6 months) and more importantly to prove to any prospective employers that they were actually doing something for the last decade.
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News Comments > Games that Smell
10. Re: Games that Smell Apr 26, 2009, 19:49 Lorcin
I've played WAY to many sewer levels to want this. In contrast I can name very few levels I've played set in a nice garden or salma hayek's clevage which I would actually like to smell.  
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News Comments > Assault on Dark Athena DRM Backlash
18. Re: Assault on Dark Athena DRM Backlash Apr 9, 2009, 12:51 Lorcin
We implement this protection in an effort to avoid early piracy

lol well they succeded there: kinda - it seems it didn't get cracked early. Of course it did get done the next day (yesterday) BEFORE Atari said it was DRMed to avoid early piracy.

As normal the DRM is just stupid - it's stopping people buying the PC version and the actual only early release of the game seems to have been on the 360 anyway. A quick check seems to show 3 times the amount of downloads on the 360 vs PC as well, I guess the only way the developers will be happy is if everything only comes out for the uncrackable PS3. Oh. Wait.....
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
15. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 31, 2009, 13:01 Lorcin
job with no interview, no boss, no quotas, no contract and no recourse if I do it drunk, stoned or decide to roundly abuse stupid customers?

Sod they low pay - bring it on. It's work heaven!
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News Comments > PC & Mac Guitar Hero: World Tour
9. Re: PC & Mac Guitar Hero: World Tour Mar 25, 2009, 20:33 Lorcin
Hmmm I like the guitar hero controllers but tbh I'm none too keen on the games style - and the virtulisations of people just look plain wrong! I'ts as if the skin has been dripped over the skull from melted wax; billy corden (sp?) is the worst instance of this - he looks like his had chemo and is wearing a bacofoil skirt.

Rock Band's interface and game as a whole is far more PC friendly - but tbh I don't really care either as we own both on the 360 (still nothing funnier than watching your 8 year old girl scream out Iron Maiden!)

Oh and who the hell is Zack Wylde - and why does he look so much like the dwarf off the cover of WoW????
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