I think I have it figured out.

This "big BF2 announcement" stuff was all just a ruse, designed more to drum up attention overall (by proxy) for the new BAD COMPANY release, than to really share any super-exciting BF2 news. And everyone bought into it.

Just look at the little press release today (now yesterday, technically), it FIRST and mainly heralds the release of BAD COMPANY, and THEN, at the end, mentions; Oh by the way, someday we'll release a new BF2 patch, too. They didn't even mention the purported new map or anything else.

So this was the BIG BF2 news they teased us with??!

Fail.

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ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzOMBIES!!!! YES!!!! Myself, I haven't been this excited about a game in years.

The. Game. I've. Been. Waiting. For. All. My. Life. EVAR.

Haters... don't let the mall entrance door hit ya in the arse on the way out!

Limbo-Gate!

Every game is different as there are multiple routes for each map (to my understanding) and the AI Director ensures that you won't face the same scripted events at the same locations.

Right. In fact, in L4D it's ALL done procedurally on-the-fly, so there are NO scripted events at all. So, different every time you play it! Much coolage.

Oh, and this November release has already been known for weeks now, it's not really new (to anyone who keeps up with the game anyway). When I saw that new "delay" headline I got worried and thought, oh no, here we go again--more delays??! I mean, November's bad enough at this point, but if there was yet another delay, I think I'd jump off a building.

I'll add that I think they're really missing a golden opportunity here not releasing this around Halloween--which they'll be soooo close to.

And to anyone poo-pooing or "meh"-ing the game in this thread, whether YOU happen know it or not, a co-op ZOMBIE shooter game(!) has been like, the missing Holy Grail for lots and lots of gamers out there for many years now. Strange as it seems, this really is a game concept that no one's ever (aside from buggy homespun mods) taken the time to actually do and do right--which I've never understood. So it really is quite a new thing they're doing here, and there are tons of zombie movie fans around the globe who are absolutely starving for it, and have been for years!

You'll see. It's gonna be big.

Are there any bots for this game? I have a regular small group that games together privately on a LAN and we're holding off getting TF2 till we know there are some decent bots we can add to round out our small servers--since only two or three players per side sounds lame. We just want some bots in there for a buffer and to add more chaos and action.

Eh, maybe I'll care later down the road, but man, it's not due out for the PC now till "Late Summer 2008" (Aug or Sept...which, if Sept, is just about Fall anyway), and I can guarantee you that date WILL wind up officially moving deeper into "Fall" proper (if we're lucky) if not Winter '08. They'll make that update announcement come July or Aug probably.

Either way, I see through this "late summer" wording. It will be more like Fall (or Winter). They just want us to feel better about the delay right NOW is all. I wish Valve and the media would stop saying it's coming out in "late summer". It's not.

Yes. I can see the future. I have a time machine. So trust me, I'll be right just wait and see.

"VideoSift = MMORPG. Apparently we're partly to blame."

Yeah, now that you mention it, I've always wondered why the heck you link to them soooo freakin' much. Daily. And a LOT.

I mean, it's a fun time-waster of a site I guess (like so many others of its exact ilk), but I never figured out why BN decided to put it on the map SO aggressively (making them lots of daily ad money in the process I'm guessing). Why is VS the main media link of BN? You getting a piece of that pie or something, Blue? In which case I could finally understand.

It does.

But I'm not gonna lie, as a diehard zombie movie/horror shooter fan yeah, I'll still get it when it does come out SOMEDAY (bet it won't be Aug or Sept), but I can honestly say that with this shockingly long new delay I've officially lost interest in it FOR NOW, that's for dang sure.

Time to put this one on the back burner and forget about it for a while (or I'll go nuts). Come the Fall I'll see what's doin' with it (for its inevitable Holiday '08 or post-Holiday '09 release). I'll definitely stop rabidly checking the fan sites daily and stuff till then. Cuz this is now gonna be a while.

No matter how you spin it, this absolutely and utterly stinks. Period. If you weren't sure of that before, you know now.

Screenshots look very much like BF2 or GRAW.

I don't think there are any games which let you solo "dungeons".

Guild Wars does. Superior experience & game as well, IMO.

lol

But seriously, I think this sounds cool myself.

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Im not there to please YOU.

Yes you are. I just checked. And you are there to please ME.

"How about no I paid, I can do as I wish."

No you can't. I just checked.

They said you can't and won't let you.

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I agree, this sounds great!

And I'm now convinced that people just WANT to complain, and will, no matter what the news, make dang sure they do so.

Many, many in the BF2 community have been crying for "Infantry only" maps since day 1 (as well, you see folks also CONSTANTLY complaining about the "overpowering air power" and how they wished there were full-sized maps designed without it--though I personally have no trouble taking them down if I really want to), and so we catch wind today that this just might be on the way finally, and NOW you get negative comments about that, and how it sounds lame, boring! Hilarious.

So shut up, please. We all want this new game mode/maps. And you know it. In fact, you want it too.

Yes you do.

#4 said: "Infantry Only won't work well on most of BF2's maps though."

True, which is why (according to this news item) it appears they've created a new map for it.

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Yes the speeds do keep going up and up...

As do their rates.

Don't kid yourselves (and pat Comcast on the back too strongly), you wind up paying dearly for any increases eventually (their rates go up semi-regularly, a few times every year). Like now, the rates are about to increase yet again (if it hasn't kicked in already). And I'm already paying sky-high for the service! Well, at least to our family it's sky-high.

I laugh at their commercials where they sing their own praises whenever they increase speeds "at no additional cost". Right. Don't worry, just give it a few months and you'll start hearing about rate increases. They just give you a little grace period to get hooked on on it, that's all. You'll pay for every MB soon enough, man. They're not generously giving you anything for free.

Heck, Best Buy had the game on sale earlier this month for $29!! You just can't beat that, man. I even talked to Santa about that sweet deal.

I begin playing it on Christmas day.

Early on STALKER was flat-out blowing me away with the frist screenshots of those beautifully moody and hyper-realistic desolated environs all decayed and junk (which is what I'm all about), but then I started looking into HL2 shots and videos, and was seeing quite similar looking locations and textures in many ways (City 17, etc)!

And now that I'm knee-deep in the middle of playing HL2, STALKER is starting to look not-so-fresh and new as it did a loooong time ago (back when it was supposed to be shipping in a mere few months, before all the delays). Still looking forward to it, but nowhere NEAR as much. Prolly won't even buy it now UNLESS the reviews are really, really good. Yet, when I first saw those initial screenies I decided I'd buy it when it came out *regardless* of reviews, just so I could walk around in those amazing environs. Eh, after HL2, I'm kinda feeling like I sort of got the idea now and have already seen stuff like that (STALKER levels). HL2 filled that void first.

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