Slick wrote on Jan 17, 2015, 17:37:
i spent a good 15 minutes dissecting this rubbish post, so i'll remove the offending 2 words that got it pulled and repost: because other than rewording the posters last 2 words, nothing in my post is any worse than the shit i personally endure, and see flung at others daily. after the offending 2 words have been pulled, i can't see there be any issue with this, if there is, well then there's a few people who post here who need to have every post they've ever made taken down... YOU know who i mean
NamecaF wrote on Jan 17, 2015, 02:28:
Rockstar gets the big ol' fuck you on numerous other grounds including, but not limited to:
7 years ago. you sure know how to hold a grudge. I mean it didn't perform great, but it was far superior than the console version, remember buying it day one. Not to mention it looks better than GTA V after the IcEnhancer and realism mods. so what is your problem again?
- The messed up bollocks that was GTA 4 on PC
By building and releasing a PC version of that game everyone wants to play on PC? those pricks!
- Shitty, arrogant treatment of their PC fans
I assume that it's $80 for all games where you live, so there's no shock here. Did you know that they're still charging full price for Arma3? that released 2 YEARS AGO!!! those BASTARDS!
- Charging $80+ for a game that came out more than a year ago
abuse of power? slightly altering something that they created? abuse of power!?! do you even hear yourself? not to mention that one's 11 years old, wow you REALLY keep a grudge. Shit, i've forgiven PEOPLE who did something mildly irritating 11 minutes ago, but you can hang onto this so close to your heart 11 years later? hats off, the hate is strong with this one.
- Their bullshit abuse of power and altering games post-release (removing tracks from GTA San Andreas even for those that bought it before said changes took effect)
Yeah, you missed the whole reason Steam was invented in the first place, to tell 3rd party publishers to go fuck themselves. The people who MAKE the game, deserve to PUBLISH the game themselves. Welcome to 2004.
- Their blatant pushing (and integration) of their stupid Social Club bollocks
Are you talking about an ex girlfriend? they're a videogame company, you sound ridiculous. you see that right...? because you sound like you've been hurt so deeply, that you can never love again. just sayin. might wanna keep that shit to yourself.
- Their bold face lying, flippant attitude and lack of communication
Don't even know where you're going with this. let me guess, releasing their game, on their e-store service, is treating you like a pirate? That's like "having to deal with a teller at the Walmart is a hassle, why don't they just trust me to pay for it! they treat me like a thief! I hate it how there's a small process involved with buying things, it's so anti-consumer! This direct download right to my computer is so damned inconvenient!"
- Treating genuine buyers like pirates
care to go into more detail? I logged into social club i think once when i first installed GTA 4 on PC, and that was it. oh right, i forgot that after that the world exploded, the sky fell, and dogs and cats were seen playing together. what the fuck is your doomsday scenario about having to log into a thing?
- Shitty, shitty DRM policy
Other requirements: Installation and online play requires log-in to Rockstar Games Social Club (13+) network; internet connection required for activation, online play, and periodic entitlement verification; software installations required including Rockstar Games Social Club platform, DirectX, Chromium, and Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 sp1 Redistributable Package, and authentication software that recognizes certain hardware attributes for entitlement, digital rights management, system, and other support purposes. Single use serial code registration via internet required; registration is limited to one Rockstar Games Social Club Account (13+) per serial code; only one log-in allowed per Social Club account at any time; serial code(s) are non-transferable once used; Social Club accounts are non-transferrable. If you're trying to scare people with legalese, posting a paragraph that seems utterly boilerplate in any EULA isn't very frightening. quote something that says R* heretofore owns your first born child, and i'll say "well done".
You should probably actually read EULAs more often, because having to log into their thing, and only getting one copy of the thing you just bought isn't going to lose anyone any sleep. to install a free flashlight app on my phone requires access to my phonelist contacts, my google contacts, my browsing history, my location, and my call history. and that's not even a bad one.
OKIE DOKIE ^_^
This is the reason why some of us won't be getting this game on PC(and no I will NOT be pirating it either):
" internet connection required for activation, online play, and periodic entitlement verification
"and authentication software that recognizes certain hardware attributes for entitlement"
I can live with games authenticating online once, upon install ala Steam. I am NOT okay with games requiring me to be online periodically, I am NOT okay with games having hardware based DRM.
I am not really okay with having to login to anything other than Steam but I might consider giving Rockstar Social Club a chance if it wasn't for those matters.
So we are NOT talking about any boilerplate legalese here at all, we are talking intrusive DRM.