MyRealName, you might want to reconsider, as much as this starforce crap may deter you, passing up GTR is only hurting you. It's by far the most realistic car simulation available, it makes even Gran Turismo look like an arcade simulation. Besides FPS games, GTR is the only other game I play, I've been totally ruined on all other car games. I also bought the ACT labs steering wheel w/ Gated shifter, and BRD pedals (FIA teams use these for their simulators) specifically for use with GTR 2002, so I am freaking out waiting for the full version of GTR to come out.