If it was a game, I would play it.

The Big Lebowski refernce was funny, but I didn't understand the Christopher Walken thing.

That's funny since Outlook probably uses Bayesian filtering too. Bayesian filtering of spam is a product of Microsoft research after all.

http://research.microsoft.com/~horvitz/junkfilter.htm

(Sorry, I don't know how to make links. I'm a stupid newbie.)
(Edit - Oh, the board makes links by itself. Isn't technology wonderful?!?)

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I was laughing so hard when I came to this forum. First I saw the title of post #1 which just got me started. Then "Best graphics bug ever?" really got me going. (It's funny because the game is already filled with big boobies.)

I can't wait to pick op WoW myself. I really need a fix of Warcrack.

I would also like to add that the "lag" problem has improved over the beta, although still not perfect.

I'm not bitter at all about the character wipe. I was fully expecting it and planning to restart anyway. The only issue I worry about is the overcrowding. During the first week of release, the newbie areas will be overflowing and newb quest spawns will be badly camped. I've seen lots of this during the strees test and open beta. They just didn't make it large enough to acomodate lots of players. It will be an awful experience for new players.

But I will probably be there on release day, crowding in, because I love the game so much. They should call it World of Warcrack.

I will have to look into installing that later. I can obviously download it via the Steam "Gold" package, but being in hippy dial-up hell, I would much rather install it from the CE. I will have to find out if the CE disk lets you install specific components (games) or if it is an all-or-nothing deal.

As a fellow chump who bought the CE, I can tell you that you can install specific components (like HL1:S) from the DVD. I would like to warn you though that if you install from the DVD, you will have to put the DVD in every time you start the game. So it looks like you have a bad choice of download it over dial-up or insert the DVD each time.

Valve sure did put out a crappy CE

They sure did. I feel like a total chump for buying the CE. (Not to mention feeling like a chump for buying retail instead of through steam) Damn you Gabe! ... Oh Gabe, I'm sorry, how can I stay made at you? You gave me HL2.

And there's a slew of great November titles on the way. This is going to be a real blockbuster season for the video game business.

My video card is an ATi 8500 SE. Do you know what the SE stands for? After having dealt with it for a while, I've come to believe it means 'Sucky Edition'.

Wow, I wish I knew that before I bought my ATI 8500 LE. I guess LE stands for 'Lame Edition'.

Who wants to take bets that on midnight Nov 16, steam is going to get hammered into oblivion by the thousands of people simultaneously trying to play the second it can be unlocked, causing a huge tidal wave of anger at steam?

That or a bunch of hackers will do a denial of service attack at steam to grief everyone who purchased HL2?

I should become a bookie. Always the cynic, I am...

I had a feeling that they wouldn't have enough bandwidth to handle the stampede of people trying to get in at the second it starts.

I hope Blizzard adds more servers for WoW because it was crowded before the open beta. I would guess they didn't and it it will probably be pretty awful to play for the next few days.

2) Rez sickness at spirit healer at higher levels (and I think this is true in general, though not sure) is way too long... 30 minutes is just stupid for a game trying to aim at less hardcore players

I had rez sickness for only 5 minutes with my lvl 15 character. It isn't such a big deal at lower levels. But repairing all my gear cost an arm and a leg.

I just watched the teaser trailer. I hate Lucas even more now because it looks awesome and I want to see the movie. Tricked again into thinking this new movie will be good. Where's Jar Jar? No surprises that Jar Jar wasn't shown. It's a trick I tell you!

Best...media...of the day...EVER!


I would also like to add a comment that is sorely missing from this thread: (*ahem*)

You're all a bunch of poodle hating, compound spreading, fruit rollup eating pinko commie nazis!!!

Seriously: Dogs are dogs. I've never understood the big fuss over breeds.

Those vampires have huge... tracts of land.

Wouldn't they need to be going gold right about now to have it released for Nov 22? I doubt the game is that close to completion.

edit: wrong date

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Don't feed the trolls.

edit: I would appeal to all Canadians to just ignore this obvious troll bait and prove Josh wrong by taking the high road.

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Here's a follow-up to the death of the Red Sox fan.

Boston Fan's Death May Prompt Alcohol Ban
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=2&u=/ap/20041022/ap_on_re_us/red_sox_fans

There's some pics of the police aiming at the rioters and the fucktards who are egging on the police. Why is it always innocent bystanders that get killed instead of the fucktards who deserve it?

Anyway, I don't think an alcohol ban will do much. People will just bring their own alcohol to the game. And if the cops try to crack down and confiscate their alcohol, it will just lead to more clashes.

They mayor should just tell people to stay off the streets for their own safety even it is a bit of a loss of freedom to party. But why risk your health and safety and possibly life to party in the street when you can party elsewhere?

but after than comment

You must have been half asleep Blue.

Nobody reads 2 day old posts... but bah! Many good points previously mentioned. I only wish to comment on

Also, yes, I am aware that the US pollutes 24% as to China's 22%. However, China is an up and coming industrial state. Ten years from now, China WILL be the world's biggest poluter.
Also, explain to me how it is deemed fair that China was exempt from the Protocol, but the US would've had to adhere to it?

I mentioned a possibility why China was exempt. Play the numbers game. Change the 24% and 22% numbers to per capita. China produces 2.5 tonnes of CO2 per capita and US produces 20 tonnes per capita and the entire EU produces 8.5 tonnes per capita (all approximate). China is not a big polluter per capita. Also mentioned China had reduced pollutants over the past years but I do agree it will definitely increase over the years because of their ravenous growing economy. But, I seriously doubt it will overtake the US as biggest polluter per capita unless they all start driving SUVs back and forth from the suburbs.

But we all know the real reason China is exempt because they are considered a developing country which I would agree is just retarded.

Oh no, not the fucking Kyoto Protocol again.

Oh, I'm sorry if there was a crazy argument about Kyoto before. I must have missed it during my lurking.

(I don't want to quote the whole rant, but my response to some points)

1) Did you read my other post? China contributes approximately 22% of pollution as you say. Well, the US contributes approximately 24%. And China has more than 3 times the people. I can play the numbers game too (as I did earlier). Try comparing pollution per capita. See previous post when I also said China is cleaning up too.

2) I never mentioned Bush and I'm well aware of the Senate vote.

You say "Europe wouldn't do something like that either." That's funny because all of the EU ratified. Was it easier for them?

THAT, in a nutshell, is the Kyoto Protocol, and how countries are 'adhering' to it. So please, get off your fucking moral high horse, and stop flaunting it as your proof how the US is so EEEVVIILLLL, because it's all just fucking bullshit.

Sorry, but I am going to get on my fucking moral high horse and say "You're with us or against us."

I wasn't saying America is EEEVVIILLLL, my point was America doesn't care about anyone else. Chill, you're overreacting.

It just feels that we shouldn't be the ones paying for everyone else's fresh air.

But it's ok for everyone else to pay for the US's fresh air?

However, the treaty is fundamentally flawed, because instead of setting the CO2 quota by GDP (in other words, the more money you make the more pollution you are allowed to produce) it was set arbitrarily, country-by-country, with economic development considered in a way that was heavy industry friendly. And the 3rd world nations ganged up on the U.S. to allow India, China, and Brazil to have much higher allowed levels than the U.S. or Europe (proportionately). That is what many people (myself included) really don't like, because I think that a global treaty that included a FAIR pollution tax (which is what Kyoto boils down to) would be OK.

I don't think it should be according to GDP at all. That's a terrible way to measure pollution. You are assuming that there is a direct relation between GDP and pollution which is not necessarily true (although perhaps a good predictor). I don't know how they set the quotas but it should be according to pollution per capita.

I can understand the grievance versus China and maybe Brazil, but I think India should be considered a developing country considering the rampant poverty and illiteracy. China on the other hand, I could write a huge rant against. They are exempt from the treaty since they are considered a developing country. I mean these people want to put a man on the moon. Sheesh. Work on your freaking poverty problems.

China and India aren't that big of a polluter. I know you think that might be crazy and that map suggests otherwise but look at these stats:
http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/what_we_do/climate_change/problems/co2_polluters.cfm
China is pretty low per capita compared to other indutrialized nations. They have even reduced their emissions somewhat over the years.

The US Natural Resources Defense Council, stated in June 2001 that: "By switching from coal to cleaner energy sources, initiating energy efficiency programs, and restructuring its economy, China has reduced its carbon dioxide emissions 17 percent since 1997".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_protocol

So I think the whiny China argument is pretty lame.

I don't think it would "cripple" the US economy, but you have to admit, it would be bad. Two of the discs in the spinal cord of the US eceonomy is the auto industry and energy. If the US were just simply to jump in and ratify without lowering emissions, they would have to pay billions for credits. That money would be downloaded onto the tax payer or the auto industry or energy industry. Not good. And if it tried to lower emissions, it would require some sort of strangling of the auto industry (since cars are one of the biggest source of CO2) or energy which again will drain tax payers or factories or whatever. It's just so much easier to pollute and shit all over the environment.

the treaty HAD NO MEANS OF SLOWING THE GROWTH OF CO2 OUTPUT, it only taxed countries for making too much.

Well, incentives are a method of slowing CO2 output. So I would argue it does have means of slowing output in industrialized nations. And if you are right, that it has no means of slowing CO2 growth, doesn't that make it silly and pointless?

What we need is new energy sources that don't involve freeing up stored reactive gases that have been kept out of the atmosphere for millions of years. Solar, Fusion, Wind, Tide, etc. And whoever invents something like that that works is going to make money regardless of international law.

Totally agree. I don't think anyone could disagree.

edit: oopsie, forgot a quote tag

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