Yeah, I think the exact same thing. Tricks me every time. Those were the IPX/SPX days. We would play that at LAN parties all the time. I would love a Revolt 2.

Good point Debaser. While you can close such services or prevent them from launching at startup, the majority of the users will not do so. Many times after exiting a Steam driven game I usually forget to close Steam before playing another game.

You can always visit the status page.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html

Last week the pipe was at about 65% (9Mbps) of it's total capacity (14Mbps).

http://www.esrb.org/esrbratings_browseresults.asp?group=8&type=game

While this may signal it's completed, VUE and Valve litigation may still delay it.

Who has played their 'official' Half-Life for DreamCast copy lately? Rated - 9/30/2000 - ROFL


And for you Halo 2 people, this was rated 7/8/2004.
This comment was edited on Oct 15, 14:30.

ROFL, that is exactly, to the letter, what I was coming in here to post.

Sounds like the old days of 5.25" and 3.5 floppy days. The companies need to grow a set again and just go DVD.

I bet over half of you remember getting the postcard in the box of 3.5" floppy's, send it in and the company sends you the program on 5.25".

This shouldn't be much different, cheaper now then it was then I bet as far a materials go.

Same when CD's came out. Office 4.0 1 CD or send the postcard in to Micro$oft for 33 3.5" floppies...

It's no fun when the DMF formatted disk blows a nut during the 19th floppy.

And as far as $30 for a burner, I hear you can also use it to make off-site archives of movie's.
This comment was edited on Oct 5, 14:10.

By this time if you don't have one get one.

Office Max - MicroAdvantage Cheap DVD Burner $29.99 after rebate. (listed in fine print under the + only burner)
8x +/- - http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prePrintView.jsp?mkt=B&city=Brookfield&state=Wisconsin&pageNum=1&size=L&BV_UseBVCookie=yes

Worst brand name ever that actually does work.

Boneless

Wow, you really added to that thread...

Smart Ass.....

Turning into Duke Nukem Forever.

DNF = Did Not Finish....

2 Games with the same title?

Actually I did all the research, I had $400 or so to spend.

I had a 1.3Ghz + GF4. I scored ohh, 1300 in 3DMark03.
My buddy had the same, but spent the $400 on CPU and MB to get him into a 3Ghz Intel (800 bus) and with the same GF4 he scored a 1500, yeah w00t great upgrade.

As you read, when I installed my 6800GT I went from that 1300 or so up to 8700. In terms of gaming it seems I made the better decision with their money.

Both boxes side by side, I can crank out twice the FPS on my 1.3ghz (4x agp) than he can on his new 3Ghz....

Doom3, 1024x768 @ high, 4AA - 20-60FPS.
SWBF, 1024x768 @ high, 4AA - 50-60FPS.
Farcry, 1024x768 @ high, 2AA - 30FPS.

- One happy Camper -
I even email you the report I put together for my clan, it's in your mail box now....

SSE did not arrive from AMD until the XP serries was out and the revision on my ASUS can not handle the upgrade.


Happy to email anyone else the results also.
This comment was edited on Sep 30, 09:05.

Welp, my box:

AMD 1.33GHz AXIA
eVga 6800 GT
1GB PC2100

3DMark03 - 8700+ pts
3DMark05 - 0 pts

Upon install I get the error:

The CPU of this system does not support SSE instructions.
This system cannot run 3DMark05. Please abort installation.

-bummer-

This comment was edited on Sep 29, 16:05.

Once we find out the details of that I may jump right on board with Steam for distribution.

I have no problem with digital distribution, however I have a problem with the availability of it only from one source.

If retailer A closes some or all of it's doors (Computer City, K-Mart, Zayers), retailer B, C, or D down the block will have the product I am looking for, if not 1,000's of e-Retail outlets will have it. And, once purchased I have it physically on hand at all times.

If something happens to Valve/Steam either through buy out, bankrupt, disaster, or unforeseen problems for any reason (maybe they are cooking books, seems like the thing for corporations to do these days), would my soft copy from Steam continue to exist? If not, how could/would you be able to acquire the software downloads needed to install or re-install my purchased game?

I've purchased e-copies of software in the past from the internet, the entire program (with all of it's executables and a install/setup) is then burned on to CD or DVD for a hard copy backup which I can reinstall at any time. Much like Steam, if the company will forever exist I could keep downloading my copy but that doesn't seem very smart. And while I could make backups of the downloaded Steam content, I can't very well copy it back to my drive and play WITH OUT Steam.

Steam is good for source updates and key authentication, of which 1)works with much the same way with hard copy and digital download for updating, 2) if a company is forced to close, while they can usually write that last patch to not require authentication would they?

I think Steam has it's strong points in that, after purchasing a hard copy of the software have no problem using Steam in the same way it is used now, I authenticate or run the Steam client in the background and it updates my copy.

BTW, if the water now being delivered to my house becomes tainted (good old Milwaukee krypto outbreak) I could still go to any retailer and purchase bottled water. As I am not changed until I use water from my pipe, I will not be double changed if I buy bottled water. Funny enough, piped in water is an accepted pratice today, though, the bottled water industry saw $7.2 BILLION dollars in revenue in 2002.


My 2 cents on why I will go with hard copy.

This comment was edited on Sep 29, 14:26.

Yes, it was susposed to be the begingin of August susposidly, guessing this was to take some light from Doom3. Then two weeks later (middle of August) an article was posted here or planetdoom in which a engineer on the team said this would happen end of August.


Given that any date Valve has given us has not even been close to an actual date they give for any part of development - what is real, next time I'll take the blue pill.

woo hoo?

With zero bugs, much like a console, I won't need to patch it or wait for Steam updates that fail.



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magical man from Happyland, in a gumdrop house on Lollipop Lane! - H. Simpson

This comment was edited on Jul 22, 08:49.

No real world information is listed in the review.

He puts it in a case with 5 80mm fans. If I am getting a fanless powersupply, I want quiet.

Next, give me some numbers!

What is the ambiance temp of your case with your 'faned' power supply?
What is the temp of your CPU with the 'faned' power supply?

What is the ambiance temp of your case with this fan-less PS?
What is the temp of your CPU with the fan-less PS?

How does the temp change with less fans in the case?
Do I need 5 80mm fans @ whatever CFM to keep things cool?

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