Tango
[i"No, it's not. I understand your reasoning, but paedophilia is a disorder, whether genetic or circumstantial. Homosexuality is not a disorder,"
I guess it is kind of misunderstood. I meant that morals change in today’s society to put it in it's most simple terms.
"I hope that doesn't imply you think gays need forgiveness, because that is just so fucking stupid."Why not? They need forgiveness just as much as you and I
JediLuke
You are preaching to the choir. I realise the problems today with the points you mention. My point it that those problems may not be problems tomorrow.
"Again, the Bible contains references to slavery; if I used the Bible to argue for my right to own slaves, or stone to death those whose behavior offended me, or to regard women as second-class citizens, is that not hate speech?"Slaves are no different to the average worker today. In essence our employers buy us for a wage per week. We do their bidding and they provide us with what we "need". The Bible has particular rules when it comes to the treatment of "slaves", telling "masters" they should treat their slaves (workers) with respect.
"You can't generalize Christian behavior. You may apply Christian doctrine in a way that you see as loving, but there are many who do not do so. "Exactly. This means that those that do not practice this are certainly not Christians. Like the tired old argument that Moog uses (Moog, don't take that offensively, it truly is over used), of the crusaders and people that claimed to be Christians. These people obviously did not read their Bible. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". "Love your neighbour as yourself etc etc. We know they were not practicing these rules.
Moog
In stating why should government get involved in religion is especially my point. They are getting involved in mine. While saying there should be free speech they are limiting that of Christian believers.
""bi-product of Darwinism"???? Dude, whatever you Christians are smoking, it is a hell of a lot better than the pot I get. Darwinism has nothing to do with systematically slaying an entire race because it is "less evolved""
Actually we are no different. I used to smoke so much weed you would never have guessed. I also dabbled in a little ecstasy and speed. But hey, nobody is perfect and I never claimed to be. Anyway, back to the point (even if it is getting a little side tracked).
"The surviving Tasmanians were rounded up from their territory and put in a special settlement. They were homesick there, and more died. The last man died in 1865. The last full-blooded Tasmanian of all was Truganini, shown here in her old age. She died in 1876, begging that her body would not be given to scientists for examination, as others had been. 'Don't let them cut me up, bury me behind the mountains.' " Luling, Virginia. Aborigines. Morristown, N.J.: Macdonald Educational Ltd. (1979); pg. 37.
Her state funeral was farcical as the coffin was empty. Her body had been already buried in the chapel in the Hobart jail. Two years later it was exhumed and boiled and reduced to a skeleton that was stored in a wooden crate in the museum. Years later, during a clean-up at the museum, the crate was about to be thrown out. Suddenly someone realised it contained the bones of ?the last Tasmanian?. These bones were then assembled and put on display in the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery.When I was a child I saw that skeleton. It seemed to me to be incredibly tiny, a waif of a skeleton in a glass case. It was taken off display in 1947.
""Many of the early settlers of Australia considered the Australian Aborigines to be less intelligent than the ‘white man,’ because aborigines had not evolved as far as whites on the evolutionary scale. In fact, the Hobart Museum in Tasmania [Australia] in 1984 listed this as one of the reasons why early white settlers killed as many aborigines as they could in that state."—Ken Ham, Evolution: The Lie (1987), p. 86."
Back to the master of evolution, Darwin himself...
"Darwin said " The more civilized so-called Cauc races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existance. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the LOWER RACES will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world." Sound like Hitler? Does to me.
To someone else who I do not have time at the moment to mention, yes I did quote a biased web site, but the information contained was pure. That is, it was from my view point. There is no reason for me to repeat everything that was mentioned there so it is natural to quote something that is "biased".
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i3/culture.asphttp://evolution-facts.org/c19b.htm