Razumen wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 20:43:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 12:26:Razumen wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 11:13:I'm in Evocati and get access to new releases 1-2 months prior to it going to PTU and Live. Plus we can expect there is a level of optimisation prior to this.
Honestly no one knows, not even you, how much time they spend optimizing, or how inneficient their pipeline is, it's just one more made up hypothetical so you can complain about it.
There are so few features being added each release that there really isn't any need for the frequency of patches we're seeing. If CIG halved the number of feature releases each year and spent the same amount of time optimising patches it would halve the amount of time spent optimising the game, time which could be used on other aspects of development. We also know that every time there is a branch from the game dev channel that any fixes and optimisations need to be merged back, which is also time consuming and a real problem when those merges are taking place around the time the next patch is being branched.
Yeah. okay, you're a glorified early playtester, you don't have anymore real info into their dev process than anyone else.
Optimization is going to need to happen regardless, devs need to run and playtest the game as well. And even if there was no public release, fixes and optimization would need to be merged into working releases for them to test internally as well. Very little would change.
Razumen wrote on Sep 16, 2020, 03:20:VaranDragon wrote on Sep 16, 2020, 03:15:
NMS was terrible when it came out. But it got kind of polished and fixed. There is "kind of" a story and even a gameplay loop there. But I agree it's very barebones and not for everyone.
However, and this is a pretty big however. No Man's Sky was actually RELEASED. It is a game. Not a tech/demo. There is literally TONS to do in it even if most of it is not to my liking. None of these things is true for Star Citizen. Star Citizen is a bag full of broken promises and outright lies. It is a despicable showcase on how to run a great idea into the ground, and how to fleece a ton of gullible people into giving you a ton of cash, for a bunch of lies and bullshit.
Star Citizen will NEVER see the light of day, it will always be in perpetual Alpha and nowhere near even close to the scope of what was ORIGINALLY pitched. So yeah, if you believe otherwise you are a poor, naive and gullible fool. Sorry.
It's ok, show me on the doll where Chris touched you.
Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 15, 2020, 19:05:Razumen wrote on Sep 15, 2020, 19:04:And what new gameplay is SC planning to offer?
But they really haven't added new ways to play the game, it's all based on old gameplay loops, and all the flaws that come with them.
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 14, 2020, 16:32:
*Sits back, invests in popcorn corporations.*
jdreyer wrote on Sep 13, 2020, 17:37:Kosumo wrote on Sep 13, 2020, 06:10:I don't know if that's fair, but he certainly suffers from Peter Molyneux Syndrome.
Chris Roberts - pathological liar.
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Sep 12, 2020, 08:12:
He's posted again. Something strange is going on. Now he's promising the game won't take 10-20 years. Bold promise.
"I can promise you the gameplay I described is not a pipe dream, nor will it take 10 to 20 years to deliver. I described systems we either have working, or are working on; we've even shown early versions of some of this like fire on Inside Star Citizen. I can't promise you exactly what quarter it will come together but once the new Road Map web work is done you'll be able to see the teams progress to achieving what I describe in real time."
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Sep 11, 2020, 03:42:
The concept of a unified first/third person camera is fine. CIG has even demonstrated it running smoothly here. The issue is that performance and the netcode currently are appalling, so it doesn't play smoothly.
jdreyer wrote on Sep 10, 2020, 22:48:grudgebearer wrote on Sep 10, 2020, 10:46:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Sep 10, 2020, 03:54:
I backed the Kickstarter back in 2020 with a $35 pledge. It seemed like an interesting concept and there was nothing else like it at the time. As the game progressed and Arena Commander was released I pledged more because I liked the progress. Things went south in 2015 when CIG struggled to release Star Marine and refused to communicate with backers. That continued in 2016 when CIG demoed Alpha 3.0 as if it was close to release, then it was released in 2017 with a fraction of the features promised.
Do I regret the money I've put in? No, as I knew it was a gamble from the start. I've always accepted the project might not go anywhere but was hopeful it would be something decent. It also helped inspire other games like Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky and Star Wars Squadrons. Do I have respect for Chris Roberts now? No. The disdain he has shown for backers isn't acceptable and he has abandoned the open development that was originally promised.
Right now the whole thing is a Ponzi scheme. Chris Roberts is using money from Star Citizen backers to fund Squadron 42, even though more than 90% of funding is from Star Citizen. New ships are constantly being sold so that CIG can honour all the previous ships that are still outstanding.
LOL...theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 16, 2015, 10:25:
Of course the game is intended to make money but I disagree that making money is the only goal. I sincerely believe that Chris Roberts is making this game because of his passion, not because of money.
As I said, I don't like the funding model but am rational enough to accept it was a necessary evil. You're free to disagree. If you don't want to back the game then don't.
I don't think TACFY is off base. I think CR truly believes in this world and this game, while at the same time sucking gobs of cash which he "deserves" for putting out the original concept and KS in the first place. The problem is that CR has great ideas, but no business or managerial sense. He doesn't know how to get his concepts into a finished state. He should have taken a back seat years ago as a "Creative director" and let others manage the scope and project timeline.
At the very least, they had better get SQ 42 out the door, and get the PU into a releasable beta state in the next couple of years, or there's going to be trouble. At the very least a class action lawsuit, possibly even a criminal investigation.
It also helped inspire other games like Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky and Star Wars Squadrons
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Sep 9, 2020, 12:31:Dacron wrote on Sep 9, 2020, 11:02:Right now? No. Performance is worse than in previous releases, which was poor to start with. It's also missing any gameplay loops that would make it worthwhile.
Think I read about this game once, worth a try?
What's concerning right now is that Chris Roberts and his wife Sandi Gardiner (the Vice President of Marketing) have completely disappeared from the project and anyone mentioning that on Spectrum (the official forum) is getting warned or banned. Development has pretty much ground to a halt and the current roadmap has been abandoned, with the replacement delayed since March this year (despite being "imminent").
Funding has hit record levels this year yet we know less about the project than ever. Either CIG is hiding things for a big reveal (something it frequently does) or something more significant is up (engine change, Chris Roberts has left the project, etc). There is a noticeable shift in the community and critical voices are starting to dominate, which is not something we've seen before.
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Aug 7, 2020, 04:04:
CIG can't even produce a video that makes a new release look compelling. All the major features were delayed from the patch and what was left in was still massively delayed and underwhelming. The framerate is worse than ever, which is impressive when it has never performed well.
Neutronbeam wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 17:53:
No veo problem El Presidente, just be safe and well!
Neutronbeam wrote on Aug 4, 2020, 20:32:
Y'all just be safe El President!
Prez wrote on Jul 30, 2020, 20:54:Mr. Tact wrote on Jul 30, 2020, 16:49:jdreyer wrote on Jul 30, 2020, 16:06:Well, it is kind of hard to say anything which hasn't already been said about it... either pro or con.
We're only at 50 comments. Do we need to invoke DS for this thread?