Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 12:11:
wtf_man wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 10:57:
1. Minimum wage was NEVER meant to be a "living wage"... people need to get that through their thick skulls. It's an "entry to the work force" wage.
Incorrect. FDR, the President who created the minimum wage as part of the Fair Labor Standards Act, had this to say about it:
"In my Inaugural I laid down the simple proposition that nobody is going to starve in this country. It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country." (Emphasis mine)
Perhaps it would be wiser for people claiming the opposite to get it through "their thick skulls" that "entry to the work force wage" is the exact opposite of what the minimum wage was created for. An understanding of history helps.
Let's see... FDR's 25 cents per hour Minimum wage.... Adjusted for inflation, $0.25 in 1938 is equal to $4.52 in 2021.
You may want to play with the semantics of "living wage" of FDR's quotes, but the intention was to prevent people from starving (Earlier in your quote). Not provide a House, Car, etc. etc. etc.
The Auto industry DOUBLED their prices in the 70's or 80's. Minimum wage is supposed to cover that? That's not realistic. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, prices for new cars were 617.86% higher in 2021 versus 1935 (a $92,678.57 difference in value).
A car is a luxury.
Owning a house is pretty much a luxury, at least from the point of view of trying to buy one on Minimum wage.
You go to work, prove your worth and climb the ladder the best you can, like everyone else. Then you can afford a car and a house. These things are not an entitlement.
#2 It's already above FDR's starving standards ($4.52 vs $7.25)... but I defer it needing to be closer to the buying power numbers. Which BTW varies depending on the area, and federally is usually the lowest common denominator.
#3 My Kid is actually doing better than me (Asset Wise) and half my age. She started out with a part time Mc Donalds job living in some condemned rat trap... dropped out of college and figured out she didn't want that life. Joined the Military and between her and her recently retired NCO husband... they own 2 houses. Wow... she figured it out! Imagine that! No welfare... no stayaing at a dead end minimum wage job. She did good for herself. As for Grand Kids... don't have any yet.
#4 I wasn't trying to say it shouldn't be raised on that comment... I was actually trying to show the opposite. I do not think it is fair that it hasn't been raised in 12 years.
#5 Oh Hell no. I work hard for my paychecks. I do not want to pay for other people's medical, college, slavery reparations (My family wasn't even in this country then), living wage stipends (welfare on steroids). I don't get why you want to steal from people that work hard and give it to people that don't. I never understood that logic. And before you say "tax the rich"... that never works. They hire armies of accountants for the loopholes, or pass on the cost somehow, or move their money out of the country. And when there is a shortage to fund these "programs"... the middle / working class gets stuck with the bill and screwed. At least Bernie was honest regarding everyone's taxes go up.
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