Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 17:15:
If you don't want to buy it on EGS, buy it here. I've had people tell me Steam isn't a monopoly, despite so many games using it exclusively, because you can buy it elsewhere (then install it on Steam.)

BL3 is on the Humble Store. Problem solved.

jdreyer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 14:47:

Red886 wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 14:32:

jdreyer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 13:44:

Icewind wrote on Sep 13, 2019, 14:22:
"but no one gets mad when a game is exclusive to steam!"

Yeah, because Steam doesn't make a publisher go exclusive to them. Any publisher can take their game to GOG, or Windows Store, or itch.io, or whatever. Steam doesn't dangle money in front of a dev and tell them "If you take this you can't go anywhere else"

In your defense of Epic Game Store, I'd like you folks to be a little less facetious.

They don't have to dangle money because they're by far the biggest. That's Epic's entire point. PC game sales needs better competition. As for those competitors you mentioned, they've been competing with Valve for years and making no headway.

except this competition is bad for the consumer.

are you not consumer too?

Know what else is bad for the consumer? Monopolies like Steam.

Verno wrote on Sep 13, 2019, 16:12:
I'm watching streams and man the writing is absolutely awful in a cringe inducing way. The game looks OK although there are a lot of weird performance drops but it could be the streamer. But man I can't get over how bad the writing is, not like writing a Borderlands game asks a lot from its authors in the first place. I was already pretty tired of the gameplay formula and it looks like more of the same based on what I'm seeing here so I'm giving this a hard pass.

NKD wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 18:10:

007Bistromath wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 17:25:
I feel like if you ever have a reason to mention Trello to the end user, your development strategy is hopelessly wrecked.

Not to mention your PR strategy.

Creston wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 00:28:
Crowdfunding? Seriously?

RedEye9 wrote on Aug 21, 2019, 21:11:
You know that had nothing to do with ethics, right.
Beamer has already straightened that out in this thread, if I'm not mistaken. As for EPIC, this is what the DARQ dev said "the exchange was polite and professional."
Quit trying to make this about ethics, because it's not.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 16:39:
Ugh, if you're going to boycott Borderlands 3, boycott it for being a rehash of the past several games, with no major innovations; don't get your panties in a bunch over the preferences of fictional characters.

Beamer wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 18:40:

NKD wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 16:46:

Beamer wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 15:28:
Something no big deal became an excuse for you to call a woman a white,

Oh my god Beamer, you can't just tell someone they're white!

Y'know, it took me several tries, and I still couldn't get my phone to say "whore"

RedEye9 wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 16:07:

jdreyer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 16:06:

Beamer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 15:15:

jdreyer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 12:56:
Men on Tinder do not appear to be intimidated by highly educated women, according to new research

Hot is hot, amirite boys?

Out-earning me is hot. Better apartment, better vacations, better restaurants, etc.!

One of my friends is a fitness instructor. Both her ex husband and the last couple of guys she went out with left her because she runs her own business and makes more money.

Why is she attracted to insecure wankers.

Slick wrote on Aug 8, 2019, 01:12:

Slashman wrote on Aug 8, 2019, 00:33:

Slick wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 22:26:

The payment processor is more expensive, and I honestly don't know how much it costs, but considering they do probably a billion transactions a year on Steam, I can't see the processors charging much. They'd be climbing over each other to land that contract, another purely rent-seeking business. Just run payments through a server, kick your feet back, and make a hundred million pure profit in a year from a single client if they charge 10 cents per transaction.

So you're just talking out of your ass then. Because it feels good to make Steam the big bad guy.

Yes, I don't have exact figures for their payment processing, I doubt anyone outside of a select few at Valve know that number. But running an online business myself, I do have some experience with this. Payment processing is a large part of running an online store, but it's usually 30-50 cents for us small fries. With scale things get cheaper.

Slick wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 20:43:
And for anyone who still doesn't understand what 30% of gross means:

A game costs $10

Valve's 30% gets them $3

Their costs are about $0.02

Total net profit for Valve $2.98

Publisher's 70% gets them $7

Their costs are to: pay the programmers, pay the level designers, pay the concept artists, pay the texture artists, pay the modelers, pay the sound designers, pay marketing, pay for servers, pay for QA, pay for customer service, pay for the office space, pay for engine licencing, pay music royalties, etc. etc. etc So how much do you think is left? If they're lucky they have $3 profit at the end.

Why should Valve get the same cut for essentially just hosting a server with zero human input required, as all the people collectively who actually work to make the games that we love?

I'm not saying EGS is the solution, but if you haven't been paying attention, Valve's behaviour is the problem.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 4, 2019, 12:14:
I'm looking at it now as more of a beta period, although it seems like most games are going to still be FULL price when they get released a year later on Gog and Steam? That should definitely NOT be the case.

Parallax Abstraction wrote on Jul 31, 2019, 13:34:
They've also been handing press copies of Satisfactory out like candy to any streamer or YouTuber with even a modest following, including a lot who are big Fortnite streamers and have Epic Creator Tags, which give them a cut of the sale. I'm sure they're not counting those press copies as sales but by handing out so many to big Fortnite streamers (who by extension, have a huge audience with the Epic Launcher already installed), it was probably a smart move to drive organic sales. Just a theory though.

They did offer me a press code for it (and I'm a tiny Mixer streamer with 1,500 followers, who pulls an average or 10-20 concurrent viewers a stream) and I'll be co-streaming it with someone this weekend, who is even smaller and also got offered a code. I literally have a chat timer that says "I don't think you should use the Epic Store right now but if you do and this game looks cool, here's my tag to help support me." I make next to nothing in commission from affiliate links and donate all the proceeds to Extra Life, I just use it for the tracking data to show indie devs I'm worth dealing with. People are always free to make up their own minds but I won't hide my opinion of Epic just because I got the game for free.

Avus wrote on Jul 26, 2019, 15:00:
Player EGS moved out of Ancient Era and go into Classical Era...