NasWulf wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 12:04:

Drayth wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 11:52:
SC is un-rleased, un-launched, un-ready for prime time.

Lets put it this way, on launch day it was perfectly fair to write a formal game review for WoW.

Would you say it's time for PC Gamer to go and give SC a review rating? If you counter this I'm probably not going to bother arguing back. You can't compare the two in terms of state of release.

You're right, they could and they did. But you could argue that they could also continue to do reviews of the base game until it's finished/out of content. Would the 2004 review of WoW launch be valid for today's WoW? No, it would not because of how much the base game has changed since then.

Not saying your wrong, never did. Some reason you think I'm "defending SC" for some reason, which I think is hilarious. I just asked a question on what jdreyer felt as a defined finished product.

And yes, they could do a review and others have/do of SC. No one is stopping anyone and especially true of forums like this one.

Also, you can't say a product is finished by the state of the release, Ubisoft proves that ever time they release a game.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2020, 14:56:
"I reject reality and substitute my own." Blizzard considered WoW finished in 2004. The players considered it finished. Only you don't consider it finished.

No one knew in 2004 what WoW would become and what it would change in teams of future game development. So ya, back in 2004 it was considered a finished product until they continue to develop it for 15 more years and changing the base game making it a perpetually unfinished product.

Kxmode wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:25:

Acleacius wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 17:56:

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Once again, no one really cares enough about epic to charge them. Crimes happen all the time and people aren't charged. One example in the US is our, ineptly incompetent idiotic holy supreme leader.

Maybe you see it as a contest and epic as a threat or challenge. Personally I don't think of 'threat' when I think of epic, actually I pretty much laugh.

Like spreading the smallest amount of butter over a largest slice of half-baked Sourdough sans scrambled eggs and bacon and calling that a quality breakfast. Epic is never going to defeat the established platforms.

MattyC wrote on Jan 2, 2020, 19:47:

Prez wrote on Jan 2, 2020, 09:22:
Valve was breaking new ground when they launched Steam and thus there was no model to follow. They were basically making things up as they went along and fighting whatever fires popped up as they came.

I would think that goes both ways. Steam had no competition and thus nothing to compare it with. We knew it was a complete shit show, but there was nothing to point and say "why didn't they do it like <X>." Steam in 2004 was a large soft opening for Valve. It wasn't a sales platform yet. It was just a buggy mess, forced on people to not just get HL2, but to continue to play HL1. It didn't become a real digital storefront right away.


At any rate, Steam did have issues on things that you could compare. We had server browsers, chat clients, and friend trackers. They worked, but Steam's sure didn't. It didn't just not work at launch either, it didn't work for years.


Steam is my preferred store and I can't see that changing anytime soon. People do, however, need to take off the coke bottle rose tints they seem to don whenever they look Steam's way.

Beamer wrote on Jan 3, 2020, 10:48:

Prez wrote on Jan 3, 2020, 09:43:
At this stage it seems that this really is an unfixable problem.

I'm guessing that, in our lifetimes, we lose anonymity on the internet. Many younger people don't seem to care, which is notable when it backfires on them, but it seems the only solution, and I think people will choose to solve the problem instead of letting it lay.

Cutter wrote on Dec 23, 2019, 15:09:
Now I'm singing Ape Out to Swing Out Sister's 80's hit Break Out.

RedEye9 wrote on Dec 22, 2019, 20:42:
I can't. I won't. I shouldn't. I'll never forget. I'll never forgive. I'll always remember.

Oooh, did you say I could save a dollar.
Folds like a deck of cards. Posturing and posing.

mirthy wrote on Nov 25, 2019, 13:57:
Most games don't thread that well do they? All those extra cores can't be taken adv of today can it?

CJ_Parker wrote on Nov 12, 2019, 21:44:
Noice. I hope that flaming dumbfuck gets sentenced to pay AT LEAST the full sum and that Epic will donate the monies to charity for mentally handicapped attention whores.

aka_STEVE wrote on Nov 6, 2019, 14:51:
STEAM can't even keep their store online , much less fully stream the games to all of it's customers....
Publishers may love this idea & locking it all down , but unless we get a vastly improved national broadband upgrade & power grid - this cloud based gaming will be crap to use/ play on for a long time.
They'll never be able to keep the paying customer base ....

Verno wrote on Nov 5, 2019, 16:17:
Apparently some people with i5s are having a lot of issues with freezing and stuttering. It was good of Rockstar to not bother testing with such an unpopular CPU

I'm having smooth butter performance at 1440p with a 1080ti and a 3900X, huge upgrade from the console experience.

RedEye9 wrote on Oct 31, 2019, 21:43:

roguebanshee wrote on Oct 31, 2019, 21:23:
Naw, the Steam Library UI patch pushed them past Steam in usability.

ouch

Task wrote on Oct 23, 2019, 20:19:
It's a GaaS game, were people expecting dedicated server tools?