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News Comments > Borderlands 3 Released
85. Re: Borderlands 3 Released Sep 16, 2019, 18:56 FloorPie
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 17:15:
If you don't want to buy it on EGS, buy it here. I've had people tell me Steam isn't a monopoly, despite so many games using it exclusively, because you can buy it elsewhere (then install it on Steam.)

BL3 is on the Humble Store. Problem solved.

Yes, this is known by anyone following this nonsense and game sales in general (see isthereanydeal dot com). So its nice that they sell some of their games on humble and greenman gaming now. Note it seems to be mostly the big AAA games. Still a monopoly like you claim Steam is though. So, 3 stores to choose from for Epic vs 5-10 for most major Steam games.

I might actually buy Satisfactory if it was available through humble.
 
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News Comments > Borderlands 3 Released
79. Re: Borderlands 3 Released Sep 14, 2019, 16:20 FloorPie
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 14:47:
Red886 wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 14:32:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 13:44:
Icewind wrote on Sep 13, 2019, 14:22:
"but no one gets mad when a game is exclusive to steam!"

Yeah, because Steam doesn't make a publisher go exclusive to them. Any publisher can take their game to GOG, or Windows Store, or itch.io, or whatever. Steam doesn't dangle money in front of a dev and tell them "If you take this you can't go anywhere else"

In your defense of Epic Game Store, I'd like you folks to be a little less facetious.

They don't have to dangle money because they're by far the biggest. That's Epic's entire point. PC game sales needs better competition. As for those competitors you mentioned, they've been competing with Valve for years and making no headway.

except this competition is bad for the consumer.

are you not consumer too?

Know what else is bad for the consumer? Monopolies like Steam.

If Steam is a monopoly then so is Epic with their exclusives. At least there is price competition on Steam these days.
 
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News Comments > Borderlands 3 Released
50. Re: Borderlands 3 Released Sep 13, 2019, 18:47 FloorPie
 
Verno wrote on Sep 13, 2019, 16:12:
I'm watching streams and man the writing is absolutely awful in a cringe inducing way. The game looks OK although there are a lot of weird performance drops but it could be the streamer. But man I can't get over how bad the writing is, not like writing a Borderlands game asks a lot from its authors in the first place. I was already pretty tired of the gameplay formula and it looks like more of the same based on what I'm seeing here so I'm giving this a hard pass.

The best description I've seen from comments during streams is, "its very meta". So yeah, cringey meta jokes.
 
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News Comments > Epic Games Store Roadmap Dropping Timeframes
17. Re: Epic Games Store Roadmap Dropping Timeframes Aug 31, 2019, 19:06 FloorPie
 
NKD wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 18:10:
007Bistromath wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 17:25:
I feel like if you ever have a reason to mention Trello to the end user, your development strategy is hopelessly wrecked.

Not to mention your PR strategy.

Epic has a PR strategy? I thought it was just fling poo at people they don't like.
 
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News Comments > Epic Games Store Roadmap Dropping Timeframes
1. Re: Epic Games Store Roadmap Dropping Timeframes Aug 31, 2019, 14:32 FloorPie
 
And the hilarity keeps on truckin.  
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News Comments > Homeworld 3 Announced
13. Re: Homeworld 3 Announced Aug 31, 2019, 00:55 FloorPie
 
Creston wrote on Aug 31, 2019, 00:28:
Crowdfunding? Seriously?

Hopefully that means little say from Gearbox and no Epic exclusive nonsense.
 
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News Comments > Homeworld 3 Announced
1. Re: Homeworld 3 Announced Aug 30, 2019, 21:07 FloorPie
 
A nice bit of news for the weekend. Some ex Relic guys running with this and if they keep Gearbox's influence to a minimum maybe it will be good. Looks like they've already hit their investor goal too.  
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
5. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 26, 2019, 14:49 FloorPie
 
Or just tape a 2 Liter soda bottle to the end of a gun.  
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News Comments > Oddworld: Soulstorm an EGS Exclusive
81. Re: Oddworld: Soulstorm an EGS Exclusive Aug 22, 2019, 02:28 FloorPie
 
Interesting post from another dev on Epic exclusivity:

https://twitter.com/glassbottommeg/status/1156313931285057536

Via ArsTech article:
Link here
 
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News Comments > Oddworld: Soulstorm an EGS Exclusive
79. Re: Oddworld: Soulstorm an EGS Exclusive Aug 21, 2019, 21:42 FloorPie
 
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 21, 2019, 21:11:
You know that had nothing to do with ethics, right.
Beamer has already straightened that out in this thread, if I'm not mistaken. As for EPIC, this is what the DARQ dev said "the exchange was polite and professional."
Quit trying to make this about ethics, because it's not.

Ok, its about Sweeney and Epic being epic failures at PR.

I still boggle at the notion that upon opening up a retail digital software store, said owners proceed to insult their customers and potential customers in a myriad of ways, as already mentioned multiple times in this thread. Oh, wait Epic's said their real customers are the devs/publishers not the end users, the gamers, the customers who actually buy the products the suppliers are giving rights to Epic to sell on their behalf.

You can't cry about any monopoly on Steam and their 30% rates while buying off a bunch of devs for exclusives which create timed monopolies. Sure, you can claim it is the only way for Epic to get market share. Thats fine, just don't complain to me about Steam's evil monopolies or its large cut of the pie when you don't offer a third of what Steam does in services.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
14. Re: Op Ed Aug 17, 2019, 19:32 FloorPie
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 16:39:
Ugh, if you're going to boycott Borderlands 3, boycott it for being a rehash of the past several games, with no major innovations; don't get your panties in a bunch over the preferences of fictional characters.


Is that the only approved form of BL3 dislike and/or boycott reason now? I know skipping the game for Epic Game Store reasons is clearly bad. Obviously thinking a robot would be binary (hah hah) and non-sexual is bad.

At least make him non binary quantum drived robot with a C3PO gay voice and cyborg pets that you can romance at the same time (I want all the babes Bioware!). Robo-cyborg-human orgy! The edgy-ness! Oh wait, then Gearbox would be making a henati game and those are only Steam. Curse you Epic standards!
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
19. Re: Op Ed Aug 17, 2019, 01:25 FloorPie
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 18:40:
NKD wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 16:46:
Beamer wrote on Aug 16, 2019, 15:28:
Something no big deal became an excuse for you to call a woman a white,

Oh my god Beamer, you can't just tell someone they're white!

Y'know, it took me several tries, and I still couldn't get my phone to say "whore"

Clearly your phone is on a depression quest.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
13. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 12, 2019, 16:27 FloorPie
 
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 16:07:
jdreyer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 16:06:
Beamer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 15:15:
jdreyer wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 12:56:
Men on Tinder do not appear to be intimidated by highly educated women, according to new research

Hot is hot, amirite boys?

Out-earning me is hot. Better apartment, better vacations, better restaurants, etc.!
One of my friends is a fitness instructor. Both her ex husband and the last couple of guys she went out with left her because she runs her own business and makes more money.
Why is she attracted to insecure wankers.

Because she wants to be on top? Either way, you guys act like women have never dumped a man because he wasn't making enough money, no matter how much she makes.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
46. Re: Op Ed Aug 8, 2019, 01:50 FloorPie
 
Slick wrote on Aug 8, 2019, 01:12:
Slashman wrote on Aug 8, 2019, 00:33:
Slick wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 22:26:

The payment processor is more expensive, and I honestly don't know how much it costs, but considering they do probably a billion transactions a year on Steam, I can't see the processors charging much. They'd be climbing over each other to land that contract, another purely rent-seeking business. Just run payments through a server, kick your feet back, and make a hundred million pure profit in a year from a single client if they charge 10 cents per transaction.

So you're just talking out of your ass then. Because it feels good to make Steam the big bad guy.

Yes, I don't have exact figures for their payment processing, I doubt anyone outside of a select few at Valve know that number. But running an online business myself, I do have some experience with this. Payment processing is a large part of running an online store, but it's usually 30-50 cents for us small fries. With scale things get cheaper.

Wow, you actually got it right. The average take on credit card processing fees is 3%. See gasoline prices at cash/debit vs credit places for confirmation. The 76's or Chevron stations near the Arco's that only do cash/debit tend to be only about 3% higher on price per gallon. The chevron stations farther away go up more in price. Lack of competition in the immediate area I suppose.

So now valve is making only 27% of a sale. Minus operating costs which apparently you think don't exist. I'm sure dealing with charge backs/refunds doesn't cost money either or effect banking/credit costs. Oh, and lets not forget any currency exchange fees. My credit card company is back to charging me a fee for doing business with the Polish GoG even if I use paypal as the processor/middleman. DRM free now costs me on average an extra $1.50. It often now makes more sense to buy GoG wallet money for multiple transactions.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
40. Re: Op Ed Aug 7, 2019, 21:29 FloorPie
 
Slick wrote on Aug 7, 2019, 20:43:
And for anyone who still doesn't understand what 30% of gross means:

A game costs $10

Valve's 30% gets them $3

Their costs are about $0.02

Total net profit for Valve $2.98

Publisher's 70% gets them $7

Their costs are to: pay the programmers, pay the level designers, pay the concept artists, pay the texture artists, pay the modelers, pay the sound designers, pay marketing, pay for servers, pay for QA, pay for customer service, pay for the office space, pay for engine licencing, pay music royalties, etc. etc. etc So how much do you think is left? If they're lucky they have $3 profit at the end.

Why should Valve get the same cut for essentially just hosting a server with zero human input required, as all the people collectively who actually work to make the games that we love?

I'm not saying EGS is the solution, but if you haven't been paying attention, Valve's behaviour is the problem.

Hehe. Yes, cost is just .02. Indeed. And bandwidth costs nothing. So says my ISP Comcast... who has had a hard limit at 1TB/month these days. Yet we have many games at 50-100GB installs.

Oh and no costs regarding banking/credit card fees. Why, middlemen have no costs at all. Which, if were true they wouldn't exist because the manufacturers aka devs/publishers would sell the games directly.


Re Origin at feature parity, really? Forums, reviews? Streaming? Not that I really care that Origin does or doesn't have social media type features.

Its been awhile since I've run Origin as I only have BF1 installed with it but last I saw their backup process was to copy a directory manually and start the download in the new install spot, stop it and copy over the old directory in its place. Not as slick as Steam's current setup but hopefully it works more than not. Blizzard uses the same method and it has been cranky for me lately. Some work, some refuse and require re-download. For some games, especially on Origin it makes sense to zip up those install directories first btw. Blizzard usually has their game files packed up in larger files instead of thousands of small files.
 
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News Comments > Warhammer: Vermintide 2: Winds of Magic Next Week
2. Re: Warhammer: Vermintide 2: Winds of Magic Next Week Aug 6, 2019, 14:51 FloorPie
 
Well, it is Beastmen invading.  
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
36. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 5, 2019, 18:00 FloorPie
 
Burrito, if you think the gun controllers will stop at your 9 shot .22's and bolt action coyote guns or even your 6 shot revolver for killing snakes you are in denial. In Oregon they wanted earlier this year to put the max capacity magazine for all guns at 5 rounds. Is your snake gun a 5 shot or the more common 6 shot? Is 5 or 6 going to matter? It means your old revolver is going to be illegal, put you in jail for a year and a $5k fine (in law proposed). Two reasons I'm looking at concealed carry revolvers these days, size/reliability and that most are 5 shot cylinders. Until it is deemed by our wise elders and statespersons that 5 is too many. Then it is on to bows and crossbows.

My grandfather used an old .22 pump action rifle that could hold 15+ 22S, 22L and 22LR to kill snakes on his ranch. They want to call those "assault weapons" now.

The question will always be, where is the limit? We see the same in various drug laws. Some that are an imperfect solution that sort of work to solve a bad problem to others that are batshit insane... but sound good, look good and make governments money. Lots of money and more control over the people.

The insanities of the war on drugs is what made me realize that gun laws are the same thing just a different day as it were.
 
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News Comments > Tim Sweeney on Epic Games Store Plans
8. Re: Tim Sweeney on Epic Games Store Plans Aug 4, 2019, 13:30 FloorPie
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 4, 2019, 12:14:
I'm looking at it now as more of a beta period, although it seems like most games are going to still be FULL price when they get released a year later on Gog and Steam? That should definitely NOT be the case.

Oh the games will be full price or 10-20% off for the first 1-2 weeks on new platforms. That has been the norm for the last couple of years.

Sweeney really is not good at PR. His store exclusives are not Epic produced (direct or outside/subsidiary dev team) games, not yet anyway. Second, no one really likes that their favorite tv show or movie is exclusive to Hulu or Netflix or Amazon the second it is on a service/network they don't pay for. Same thing is going to happen with games.

Only real difference is I don't have to subscribe to Epic games service. Just put up with an inferior storefront product. Although that seems to be where many big publishers are going with Ubisoft joining EA, MS, Sony with a monthly game pass service. More games as a service nonsense.

When Epic came out of the gate and catered to their "real customers" namely the game makers, you knew what they really cared about and it is not the end user/customer/consumer who actually buys the products they are selling on their store without a shopping cart, in 2019. Talk about not understanding how to run a middleman business. You have to cater to both sides of the equation.

Getting the devs who signed up on board the hate train for anyone daring to call a spade a spade made things worse. Yes, its obviously a smart business decision in the short-medium term. Thats fine, I get it and won't buy it because its usually not in my interest to do so as a customer on a number of fronts. Credit card processing or currency exchange fees being one not mentioned much in this debate.

But when you wizz on my head and tell me its raining, I'm not going to respond well. Game goes exclusive 2 weeks out from release? Oh noes, the internet hate machine treats you badly via forums and reviews! How horrible that its unfair at times. Do you devs, publishers smell the dung you're shoveling? In this industry of day one dlc, loot boxes, online only games as a service, unfinished games with "we'll patch it later" (see Epic store feature list, FO76 etc..) and endless little annoyances all to play a game?
 
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News Comments > Piranha Games on MechWarrior 5 Epic Games Store Exclusivity
31. Re: Piranha Games on MechWarrior 5 Epic Games Store Exclusivity Jul 31, 2019, 20:01 FloorPie
 
Parallax Abstraction wrote on Jul 31, 2019, 13:34:
They've also been handing press copies of Satisfactory out like candy to any streamer or YouTuber with even a modest following, including a lot who are big Fortnite streamers and have Epic Creator Tags, which give them a cut of the sale. I'm sure they're not counting those press copies as sales but by handing out so many to big Fortnite streamers (who by extension, have a huge audience with the Epic Launcher already installed), it was probably a smart move to drive organic sales. Just a theory though.

They did offer me a press code for it (and I'm a tiny Mixer streamer with 1,500 followers, who pulls an average or 10-20 concurrent viewers a stream) and I'll be co-streaming it with someone this weekend, who is even smaller and also got offered a code. I literally have a chat timer that says "I don't think you should use the Epic Store right now but if you do and this game looks cool, here's my tag to help support me." I make next to nothing in commission from affiliate links and donate all the proceeds to Extra Life, I just use it for the tracking data to show indie devs I'm worth dealing with. People are always free to make up their own minds but I won't hide my opinion of Epic just because I got the game for free.

This confirms many of my thoughts and impressions on Satisfactory. Its not that niche now given its marketing, nice graphics, stable gameplay and that it is first person instead of top down like Factorio. I've noticed that many streamers are not too open or upfront about Epic affiliate links fearing a backlash I guess.

I'm wary of the 500k sold number and many speculate that that is simply the number of copies Epic guaranteed to buy up at the end of year 1 if they didn't actually sell that many copies.

Its a good game and is the only game I'd pick up on Epic right now simply because I've played the alpha. Almost got it for $20 but was still burned out from the alpha. Everything else can wait and Epic's desperation sale follies said more about the state of things than any viral marketing campaign from Satisfactory devs could.

As for MW5 and one million copies.... yeah, sure you betcha bub.
 
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News Comments > First Cloud Saves on Epic Games Store
14. Re: First Cloud Saves on Epic Games Store Jul 26, 2019, 17:11 FloorPie
 
Avus wrote on Jul 26, 2019, 15:00:
Player EGS moved out of Ancient Era and go into Classical Era...

They have the BRONZE! Watch out Valve Battleships, Epic Phalanxes are about.
 
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