in response to post 21:
it not always the case that retail == lame experience. in some ways, i'd love it if more people played dc. for instance...
day of defeat is still quite fun... and it's been retail for a bit now. honestly, i think that cs is the exception, not the rule. besides, cs was full of smarktards well before it went retail anyway.
i'd really love to give trama my $ at this point. i've been playing dc more than 1942 for months now... the expansions were pretty much worthless (i think that i played secret weapons once or twice), but i play dc at least a couple of times a week (since beta .2, i think). great mod, great mod.
plus, i love being able to play as a sniper with a semi-auto gun
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