Cram wrote on Feb 25, 2021, 21:34:
Was hoping his 3rd Alice game would happen.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 12, 2021, 08:56:sliv wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 22:56:
Dude, you're right, we won't meet in the middle because you're not going to budge...
You've utterly failed in this discussion and you will continue to fail in further discussions until you understand how negotiations work. As someone claiming to have a successful business, I find it difficult to believe that you're unaware of negotiable and non-negotiable clauses which must balance to achieve a successful negotiation.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 22:30:sliv wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 19:39:
Have you actually ever heard someone say that or are you projecting?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have gone out of my way to type it. It and the standard variation of "Billy's parents should just work harder" bullshit. Guess where that bullshit came from? "Conservatives". The same "conservatives" who preach about the sanctity of life...so long as it only applies to the unborn.
Also, you might want to look deeply within before you accuse others of projecting or, perhaps, get to know them a bit better before you make asinine statements. But you do you. Also, learn your logical fallacies. As Beamer pointed out, that could have been construed as a strawman...if I hadn't actually heard it said with my own fucking ears.sliv wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 19:39:
In regards to health care, do I believe it's a right to be given free healthcare for everyone? No, I don't.
Then you and I would have no common ground to meet on, thus making it impossible to "meet in the middle" anywhere. I find it to be a moral requirement that the sick, injured, and dying are cared for regardless of their ability to pay while also not being hounded in to destitution or medical bankruptcy for seeking out care. Do you think the stories about people dying from being able to afford insulin, for example, are just a clever trick dreamed up by the media? Or the stories about people doing caravans to Canada to buy it in bulk where it is ridiculously less expensive and can be bought over the counter? The same formulations (i.e. Lantus, Novolog, etc.) that are prohibitively expensive and out of reach here in the States?
ACA was always hot garbage but it was the Republicans who poisoned the well so badly that nothing truly effective would come out of the attempt. However, that is no excuse to throw up our hands and say "It's impossible" when literally every other first world nation has figured it out to varying degrees and posseses a functional national healthcare service.sliv wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 19:39:
Here, I'll throw a few more tidbits about me: I'm not white, I'm hispanic; married, father of two. I graduated Summa Cum Laude after dropping out of school after 1.5 years of a failed college experience (1.2 gpa) and went back to finish my degree after working odd-and-end dead-end jobs. I now have built and own a successful business for 15 years now.
Cool. I'm a Caltech burnout and dropout who started my first business at 14. Do we need to stand up so people can clap for us or are we just supposed to stand around patting ourselves on the back? All of that was self-aggrandizing and pointless in the context of the current discussion.
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 20:05:
I'll take you at your word on that. I know those kinds of situations did happen to some people.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 18:38:
My last example is healthcare. If someone says to me "It sucks little Bobby's parents can't afford insulin. He can just die." Then I know I will never reach the fundamental start of a resolution when it comes to the health, healthcare, and wellbeing of my fellow man with that individual. It's the anathema of common decency.
1) Do you believe, as Gina does, that Trump lost the election because of voter fraud? If so, what actual evidence do you have that supports that?
2) What sources do you use that are reliable - meaning that they at a minium fact check their information and they offer corrections when they're wrong. Do you stop believing those sources when you find out that their facts are sometimes wrong and they don't correct themselves when they discover so? Or would you choose to continue to follow those news sources even knowing that they willingly provide factualy incorrect information?
Bodolza wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 18:19:
Something else I've been seeing a lot of lately from conservatives online is claiming victimhood for their beliefs, but as soon as those beliefs are questioned by someone, they disappear from the conversation. It's hard to have an actual discussion about what you believe if only one side is willing to participate.
Verno wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 17:12:
Opinions are nothing special and people latch onto their own too much as if holding one automatically makes them immune to criticism. I think more people should probably start having this attitude if we want to reverse the decline of our nation and make no mistake, we are in decline due to this polarization.
Verno wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 17:12:
Also let's all move away from labels - for example calling people ignorant is not going to move a discussion anywhere productive.
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 16:30:sliv wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 16:19:
Honestly, the amount of hatred I've seen just on this board alone the past four years for anyone who voted for Trump; makes me truly question the future of the human race. Where's all that unity I keep hearing everyone wants? I guess it's just easier to remove the differing opinion than actually hear why half of the US doesn't think like you.
To repeat:Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 22:57:
Hey, I do what I can. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I completely understand why people voted for Trump in 2016. Most people pay far less attention to politics than I do. Most people are busy living their lives, paying their bills, they don't know jack shit about politics -- they know they don't and that's fine with them. They didn't know Trump was a charlatan, who lies like a rug, who cares as much about the working man as he does mud on the bottom of his shoe. They listened to Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of it and believed.
But if after four years of what Trump has said and done, you still believe he deserves your vote -- you're lost to me. You clearly have no connection with reality. Yes, I believe over 75 million US citizens have no connection with reality, in politics. Do I believe they should be gunned down? Of course not. However their ignorance is weighing this country down. And frankly, I don't have a lot of concern for them. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. So be it.
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 14:34:Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2021, 14:20:Which doesn't directly make her "pro-Trump", but it certainly indicates her separation from reality -- generally a prerequisite for being "pro-Trump".
Is she pro-Trump?
It was pretty fun, up until that damn ice island.
the puzzles that involve a lot of platforming. They can be a little annoying.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 18:22:sliv wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 16:47:
Though, I'm sure a lot of you all are probably pretty nice in person, too bad we don't get to see that side of you.
I assure you that I am just as much of an asshole in person as I am on here.![]()
Beamer is right when he said we are discussing and opining on issues that are infinitely more important than video games, consoles, and other such meaningless trivialities. Can you legitimately argue that the scarcity of video cards and their current outrageous prices are more worthy of discussion than the armed insurrection that occurred at the Capitol just six days ago? Or the continued lunacy of Trump and the very real danger he represents to the republic and our democracy? Or the now hundreds of examples of social inequality that we have witnessed over the last handful of years?
There comes a point where you can't bury your head in the sand and hope to wave it all away because you don't want to deal with it. When something becomes a problem of such a staggering nature, it is going to seep in to everything until it is resolved.
Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 15:13:Tomas wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 15:04:
It's a good thing we have places like bluesnews where we can make sure our opinions are correct.
With this post, you're one step away from calling us sheeple.
Beamer wrote on Nov 5, 2020, 13:42:sliv wrote on Nov 5, 2020, 11:45:Beamer wrote on Nov 5, 2020, 10:13:
So you still won't answer the question, only now you're angry at cities you've likely never even been in.
Ok, so you won't have an honest discussion, and you'll just keep throwing things out to see what sticks. Thank you. To the ignore list you go.
I can't speak for NYC, never been there. I can't speak for CA now, I was born there but moved away when I was 9. I can speak for Texas, specifically Austin area where it's grown from just Travis County being blue in a sea of red to the two surrounding counties turning blue this election that have grown a lot over the past 10 years. We're getting a lot of tech jobs here which is great but the other areas that are not so great have become major problems. The homeless camps here are incredibly sad to see; these all started just recently when public camping was deemed legal by the city council (you can guess which direction they lean politically). The transit infrastructure is a complete disaster. No one can have an opinion anymore without being canceled by the young and brightest graduating from UT. But HEY! we're turning this area even more blue! Wooo!!
We hear native Austinites regularly say Austin isn't the same https://www.statesman.com/interactive/news/local/austin-skyline/then-and-now/">as it once was. I've been here since '98 and have seen the growth first-hand. Where I live now used to be out in the middle of nowhere, now we're completely developed and everything is expanding well beyond us. Large tech companies move in, where do you think they're hiring people? They're not growing them in-state, they're telling people in Silicon Valley that you can move here and buy/build a massive house for a 10th of what it costs in California. Trump didn't win Texas by much so make this state blue and you have yourself 38 more electoral points. Nobody would be talking about Michigan, Arizona or Nevada today.
But as long as the rules fits what you want, then let's change the whole thing. We'll just make sure all the farmers, gas & oil workers continue to work their tails off to put food on the table for them (and you) and encourage them to start popping off more kids and more mouths to feed to keep up with the rest of the country just so they don't become increasingly irrelevant.
Adding people to the ignore list you don't agree with = safe space
Who shut down the institutions that used to house the homeless?
Beamer wrote on Nov 5, 2020, 10:13:
So you still won't answer the question, only now you're angry at cities you've likely never even been in.
Ok, so you won't have an honest discussion, and you'll just keep throwing things out to see what sticks. Thank you. To the ignore list you go.
Jivaro wrote on Nov 4, 2020, 16:30:
The Electoral College (1787) and fax machines (1843) .....both are antiquated and obsolete. I have no idea if the EC must go or simply be changed, but I think it is pretty obvious something has to change.
no matter who wins the EC has to go. 61 percent of Americans support its abolition.