I apologize. I did just settle into smoke a bowl. That should help. Like you, I am very upset at what this release has shaped up to. I was looking forward to a cold winter with late night tribes. Your last statement is accurate. When I was 11-13 I discovered f-117 nighthawk and the V for victory series..I havent owned a console so to speak since.

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read the rest of what I said jack-ass before launching a strike on my post. I'am certainly not condoning this action, I was merely trying to put the ut2004 comparison into some sort of context. I loved the learning curve and technical aspect of the first tribes and sequel. I said I dont belive in streamlining if it involves stripping a game of features and items which is what T:V most certainly did. Hence I wont purchase the pos.

Thx - Houdini - you covered 80 percent of the other points I forgot to bring up. Lost focus during my rant. Grenades went from 3-4 varieties to 1 as well. I agree with everything you said 100%...well put.

Some people may appreciate it, I certainly do not. The first Tribes blew my friends and I away - so many items and gadgets to deploy and utilize. There were roughly 6 of us that were hardcore tribes players. None of us after the beta experience will be buying this. I can only hope mods will dig the game play outta the dirt. The abiltiy to establish a remote firebase on top of a mountain was phenomenal. One player would grab inventory station, while others escorted him to the location. After that we would set up a base - complete with motion sensors, turrets and other deployables. More than half of these items and features are stripped from this turd, not to mention overall smaller maps, elminating the need for tactical deployment. The addition of a single player campaign or whatever you want to call it reeks of console stench. The first two tribes were pure multiplayer experiences...why in godsakes did they waste dev time in adding this greatly un-requested feature to this game? When people compare to ut2004, I believe there trying to make a correlation to the simplification and "streamlining" of the gameplay. I can appreciate "streamlining" gameplay to make it more accesible to a broader crowd...but to achieve this by ripping weapons, eliminating items and limiting deployables to a fraction of the original is cheap. To me, this reduces gameplay to ut2004 with jetpacks - an aerial fragfest..not a complex tactical sci-fi war which the first few tribes captured me as. Sure they have differences - but this current T:V is a mere shadow of the original - only improved by graphics, and to some the grap hook and skiing. I will not be purchasing this unless the mod community brings closer to the real tribes, Not some deathmatch in the skies (starsiege 2845 looks real good, I am sure renegades will mod it closer to its truer from). So for every person they gain by making it more accessible to toolboxes, I hope they lose a customer for turning an intelligent FPS/team shooter into a kiddie version.


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Long time reader, 1st time post. God Bless Blue and Have faith, your Mom will carry through.