"It now seems they want to be Bill Gates not Gareth Gates, according to a poll of 12 to 15 year olds."

This probably has something to do with the fact that Bill Gates is the richest individual in recent human history.

And who the fuck is Gareth Gates?

Hopefully Valve will use this delay to raise polycounts and improve texture quality.

"geez, let's stay to the facts and that is that currently NO card can run HL2 in AA mode!"

Obviously.

"ok, let's repeat it slowly. Centroid sampling is part of DX9.1 and it's currently unknown when DX9.1 is going to be released. This means that MS should have made centroid sampling mandatory in DX9.0 to circumvent this problem and not offer a feature in DX9.0 which will break AA and then offer a fix for it in DX9.1 when it already should have been part of the previous version.

Nvidia cannot be blamed for not implementing centroid sampling because it was not required. DX9.1 offers many new features which currently no cards support so you cannot really make ATI or nvidia guilty of not implementing them. BTW, both ATI and nvidia offer different features which are not yet part of DX9.0 but will be in the next revision. It's not that ATI is the only one with DX9.0+ hardware!"

Yes, and that's why I said it's too bad Nvidia failed to implement that feature when ATi had it over a year ago on their R300 chip.

I was looking forward to purchasing an FX.

"I don't think that ATI will release a driver which fixes this issue since it will be a time consuming process to fix it"

I doubt that.

http://www.nvnews.net/images/news/200307/HL2ATi.jpg

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"Maybe if Valve could write proper code for once this wouldn't happen"

Maybe if Nvidia could design proper hardware for once this wouldn't happen.

"Too bad that centroid sampling is part of PS 3.0 which is again part of DX9.1 and NOT DX9.0 which is supported by current high-end cards"

That's correct. Too bad Nvidia failed to implement that feature when ATi had it over a year ago on their R300 chip.

"It's just funny that exactly supersampling in combination with multisampling is used by GeForce FX cards in 4xS and above AA modes but ATI is currently not able to do it at all"

I'd say it's funny that ATi can use proper FSAA in HL2 but Nvidia is currently not able to do it at all.

But it's not funny, it's actually quite pathetic.

"So Hellbinder, taking the ATI biased jargon out of your post"

Would you mind showing us what "ATI biased jargon" he used in his post?

"the latest Nvidia gpus won't run HL2 well because Valve was too lazy to do a two pronged development approach (much like Carmack is doing with Doom 3)."

Doom 3 uses OpenGL. There is no need for a similar development approach when referring to Half-Life 2 (DirectX).

"Then it's no one's fault but Valve's that the game doesn't run well on Nvidia cards."

It's actually Nvidia's fault for not supporting Centroid sampling (a DX9 feature) in their hardware.

Dark Fiber, calm down and get your facts straight.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6917
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6938

"If you don't see the inherant racism, I'd suggest you reread the article. As I stated, this is a case of reverse racism."

There's a difference between having prejudice for someone's stupidity as opposed to having prejudice for someone's race.

Methinks he possesses the former.