I thought you were leaving.

I'm a sucker for punishment.

Then exactly how is it gathering information to tailor adds to you if it's not looking at your history there Einstein?

Because it doesn't tailor ads to you, it just tracks how long ads have been viewed and uses that to determine when to stream down new ads...?

I am not arguing this again.

Also: is QW:ET out yet

There's a difference between saying "ok we fixed all the bugs" and it still having bugs and saying "IGA software only tracks how long the ad has been on your system" and it having a secret keylogger/browser history tracker/whatever

I am not arguing that BF2 isn't buggy. It is.
I am not arguing that BF2142 isn't buggy. I'm sure it is.
I am not arguing that BF2142 isn't just a "mod"
I am not arguing that EA tells the truth when it comes to how they handle community.

I am arguing that, in this case, the slip included in the box doesn't says that it will scan your browsing history and send it back to IGA.


And yes that BF2 quote ("and you can write that down") was fucked up.

Whatever, I conceed. Keep fighting the good fight.

edit: no use arguing


This comment was edited on Oct 17, 12:15.

So you believe whatever you need to fanboy!

EA told me that I had to go defend them on teh internets and I said "jawohl mein fuhrer" and here I am.

Whatever dude. I just want people to look at this clearly with correct information instead of flipping out and continuing to spread one person's incorrect post.

Sorry I should have posted the image instead of just copying the text.

Whatever though, I'm done defending EA. To be fair, the only reason I'm posting about this because it's an instance where people are freaking out and posting errorneous information. I'm sure the CGW podcast didn't even say anything about browser history, so this is just one more piece of proof where one person can make a wrong statement and the entire internet gaming community can flip out.

And where does it say it's not looking at the browser and where you go? I must have missed it?

By this logic, Windows gets your credit cards and charges you 400 dollars a day. I mean, they certainly don't say that they don't do that.

Here let me dig up some quotes from one of the DICE guys:

DICE CKMC posted:

The information that is gathered is specifically related to the ingame ads themselves and not anything personally related to you.

There is no additional spy ware software installed secretly to your machine.

DICE CKMC posted:

Data will only be gathered from in game. Web browsing and other profiling data is not being gathered.

Squib has essentially nailed it. The purpose of the gathering is to determine if an ad is viewed by players.

DICE CKMC posted:

As I have mentioned before (in other threads/interviews) there will be no adverse affects on players from the advertising aspect. It will not impact gameplay at all. You most definitely will not receive any emails or other forms of solicitation due to this.

I will add that if any of you do receive negative solicitation related to anything Battlefield please let me know.

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/5393/bf2142igaaq6.jpg

STOP QUOTING THAT FUCKING GUY!

It doesn't say it's going to view your surfing habits. It says:

When you use the software while connected to the internet, the advertising technology may record your internet protocol address and other anonymous information ("advertising data"). The Advertising Data is temporarily used by IGA to enable the presentation and measurement of in-game advertisements and other in-game objects which are uploaded temporarily to your personal gameplay. The Advertising Technology does not collect any personally identifiable information about you, and EA will not provide IGA with any of your personally identifiable information.

You can hate BF2142 all you want, and hate in game ads, but it's not viewing your browser history.


Seriously guys, you're making me defend EA by quoting this guy. Stop it.
This comment was edited on Oct 17, 11:44.

I just can't get over the fact it "looks" a little too old school. The lighting in most source products is amazing and it looks alright, but just seems really blocky or something.

I dunno, have you seen the new shading stuff in the hl2:episode2 trailers? It's pretty freaking good looking...

Wait, wasn't Dave Perry also doing that other MMO 2moons?


Maybe they can combine them to make a MMORPD where you dance to have awesome fatalities so you can become ultimate supper battledancer

Seriously, wtf? Is acclaim just buying up every korean mmo they can find now? This is at least number three for them...

This comment was edited on Oct 15, 19:34.

Well that and the 747 crashing in space which was very cool. Overall I'm not too upset about the purchase (i got it for cheap) but I doubt i'll ever touch it again.

wtf? I thought Infogrames was Atari.

Since we already have put in a lot of other nonrelated discussion, i'm going to add to it some more

At some point, Hasbro decided to make PC games, making some monopoly games and such. Hasbro Interactive bought a number of games studios, such as Microprose and Atari. They also got the rights to Wizards of the Coast. Hasbro Interactive did terribly because they didn't know how to run it, so they sold it to Infogrames. Infogrames, at that time, had such bad rep that they renamed themselves to the defunct Atari brand, which Hasbro Interactive used to put out "HASBRO ATARI CLASSICS HITS #313", etc.

The point of this story was that Email X-Com lost it's support, even before switching companies. It was not digitally distributed, but relied on a master server which went down, leaving a lot of people unable to play the game.

Triton could do the same but apparently they are just waiting on legal to release a patch to remove the Triton requirement.

I dunno. Someone said that the guys from Valve have said that if Steam ever dies, they'll release an unlock tool, but who really knows? I certainly can't find the interview.

Nothing I'm particulary worried about though.


edit: For the record, I've only had one game lose support and thus become a coaster (so far), and that game is Email X-Com by Hasbro Interactive (now atari)
This comment was edited on Oct 9, 00:57.

I'm pretty sure that if Steam/Valve died (ha!) then they'd release patches to make stuff not require steam. After all, most stuff is just encrypted and then unlocked.

Okay to complete the list:
BF2142 is nothing but a mod for BF2 and doesn't justify the cost of a new game. Plus EA/DICE sucks and can't properly support any game they make.

Add the "red orchestra is just a mod!!!1!" and then you'll have a complete list.

Most likely that theyve posted their own downloads for the 2142 demo.

DICE canada took over battlefield 2 patches after launch. Besides the expansions, I think that's all they were working on (and the number seems about right for that task)