Watching all the ATI and Nvidia fan bois flame and circle jerk each other is hilarious, I love these forums. anon@216.23 isn't funny or entertaining and just takes up a lot of space though. Personally I'm planning on buying a non pro Radeon 9800. At ~$240 with performance a few FPS under the 9700 pro, and even better performance with FSAA/ antistropic filtering on, its a steal. I've always been pretty neutral video card vendor wise. I try to buy the best card for my money, which at this point would be an ATI offering. If you don't think so you're just kidding yourself. FX is crap, nvidia really dropped the ball on the whole line. Serves them right for taking useless side projects. *cough*XBOX*cough* *cough*. Hell the 5200 won't even be fast enough to use any DX9 features, even though they're fully supported, lol.