Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2021, 22:32:
I was banned from the Donald and conservative on reddit. And libertarian. Seems that conservatives love banning, as well.

This is true and has been going on for years, they don't see their own self imposed wall gardens. They want to be able to say what they want without any rebuttal, control speech. To me that always looked snowflake as fuck. But that said, I never thought legal free speech was in jeopardy with these online places doing that. I understood how and why it happened and it had nothing to do with the 1rst, just ironic that these were the people doing this. I didn't decide I was anti-gov't because they did this. I didn't feel the urge to break things because the did this. I didn't play around with overthrowing the gov't because of their walled gardens.

Nah they are having some upstairs issues. They feel they are so right in all of this and at best both sides have some points and some warts, but there still really is a lot of commonality, I really feel the core is an economical one that if many were doing better they'd be much more content to watch Office reruns on their new TV and furniture. But they won't step back. I'm convinced their world if we were so blessed to live it, it would be at best no better than what we have now, just a minor deviation. Just history repeating itself and then what are they going to do with things they find controversial but are really freedoms we have today? They are going to ban those and once again back to the irony, the freedom yellers really want more restrictions than what we currently have, just a different mix of which.

Beamer wrote on Jan 13, 2021, 22:32:
I was banned from the Donald and conservative on reddit. And libertarian. Seems that conservatives love banning, as well.

Right they spew freedom but it always took cozying up to mods just to post in their sites. I can go to politics, you can, anyone can and start posting without a secret handshake.

Being Massive until we have more details I would think this will be a GaaS and think something like Division. So I would expect online.

I'm enjoying it, but to think they made anything close to perfection on the PC and the last gen consoles unfortunately got shafted. We'll that's a bit too thick for me, there is plenty of "push it out the door" going on with the PC game as well. Just sayin. The best thing is we are talking about a game so whoopi.

theglaze wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 21:56:
4GB more than the 3070, 2GB more than 3080... huh?

It's their new top of the line!

Simon Says wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 16:09:

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 16:01:

Simon Says wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 12:48:

Cutter wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 11:41:
Is Intel throwing in the towel?

For now they don't really have a choice, they've squeezed all they could out of that 14nm+++++∞ cow and 10nm still isn't ready for prime time...

And they just announced they would manufacture their GPUs on TSMC's 7nm+: https://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSKBN29H0EZ

Well my son couldn't wait any longer, we still went intel because you can't get current gen AMD. 10600K for him, that is still plenty strong. I can assure the audience that was not the plan, this was supposed to be a 5600x.

In sports and now in tech, availability is a great ability.

As for sockets, for a lot of us, does it even matter? Are we really upgrading CPU's all that often? If you are, sure, but it you wait like 5+ I would just expect a whole new bottom end.

To be fair, Intel's 6 core offerings right now, at the right price, are better price/perf than AMD's Ryzen 5 series. The 10400F in particular is pretty sweet under 200$.

Yep my decision was between the 10600K and the 10400F. The 400 is a great bargain, but we have some extra cash to get a notch better.

This comment was edited on Jan 12, 2021, 22:04.

The Flying Penguin wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 13:40:
For the life of me, I don't understand why conservatives want to repeal section 230.

This to, it is just more mix up with Conservative thoughts. That is even more censorship, good or bad depending on what is being censored.

Don't try to topple this or any gov't. At the top isn't Disneyland, it's as serious as terminal cancer.

You try to topple the gov't, you get things taken from you and you should.
You don't have the right to topple the gov't.

To think a gov't would sit bye and do nothing is beyond laughable.
This has nothing to do with California either, they fight for more rights in the states then anyone.

Simon Says wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 12:48:

Cutter wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 11:41:
Is Intel throwing in the towel?

For now they don't really have a choice, they've squeezed all they could out of that 14nm+++++∞ cow and 10nm still isn't ready for prime time...

And they just announced they would manufacture their GPUs on TSMC's 7nm+: https://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSKBN29H0EZ

Well my son couldn't wait any longer, we still went intel because you can't get current gen AMD. 10600K for him, that is still plenty strong. I can assure the audience that was not the plan, this was supposed to be a 5600x.

In sports and now in tech, availability is a great ability.

As for sockets, for a lot of us, does it even matter? Are we really upgrading CPU's all that often? If you are, sure, but it you wait like 5+ I would just expect a whole new bottom end.

This comment was edited on Jan 12, 2021, 22:04.

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 12:17:

Mike1233 wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 11:50:
"Anytime I hear someone say the solution to the problem is to 'vote with your wallet', I know that cause is doomed."
- Some guy

Which way am I supposed to take that? It always works or never works? Because clearly neither is correct.

Individually it works, as you voted with your wallet either way, direct.
As a group, its nothing more than a suggestion for others to consider, indirect.

Xero wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 11:11:
What is funny, is when we talk about these "other" groups that become radicalized when they are reading too deep into dark beliefs or ideas and that is when they're willing to perform some act of terror, etc. How about basically this occurring to thousands and thousands? How is it all that much different? You had a legion of drones show up willing to take hostages, kill if necessary, force the flipping of a fair election and then go home and go back to work. Wtf is wrong with this country.

It's the manson's at the highest level in the land.

edaciousx wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 03:49:
Social media needs to be classified and regulated as a public utility. Social media should only restrict speech that posses imminent threat, not hate. You're allowed to speak out against something you aren't happy about, the left had 4 years calling everyone on the right stupid white national Nazis which is hate speech.

With everything the left has done to the right, I only see further escalation. And yes, the right has their faults too but there is significantly more blame on the left for our current situation.

That's fine on being a public utility but that isn't where we are at today. "Posses Imminent Threat", well that is where we are at right now, we have warning of formations at all capitol's. We have a president that wants to be a lifelong dictator, in fact I would make him show up at the inauguration, to me I wouldn't even have one currently in the traditional manner, all those lawmakers and not the president in one place, it's a tactical failure and on top of that we know law enforcement supports the president overall and they can't be trusted as anyone can see at this point from just last week alone. I feel all those are true and imo that is imminent. So then what we are seeing to me seems justified under your definition. You have to error on the side of caution, we are talking about overthrowing the gov't. If not this, then what?

Agreed fujijuice.

I want to add again, of all the places that let people talk politics (on topic or not) and it has people on both sides, I swear and I don't know how or why but this place seems to handle it the best. I know overall it leans a bit one way, but it never goes nuclear like any other place does.

edaciousx wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 03:43:

Agreed... the internet was a better more free place in the 90s and early 2000s.

It was a baby still waiting to grow and be conquered and that is just what happened. It was bound to happen.

I wish we had Polish problems.

Tomas wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 16:44:

Cutter wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 16:21:

Tomas wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 15:00:
I understand what you're trying to say, but what you said is just wrong. It's 100% censorship, but done by entities other than government. Sure, it's legal, but it's not necessarily good for our republic.

Holy blue flaming Jesus on a pogo stick! How many times must it be said? It's not fucking censorship if a private business refuses to do business with you. Censorship is when a government, or prior to the modern world, religion, prevents you from speaking your mind upon pain of punishment for breaking that edict. Like Galileo would have been subject to an inquisition and torture as well as excommunication if he didn't recant heliocentrism - he did, under threat of torture. That's fucking censorship.

Private companies refusing to do business with a business who's business model is making money from violent, seditious psychos isn't censorship. That's just good business. None of them have shut Parler down or put it out of business. Parler has no right to private telecommunication lines. They can either run their own lines or use fucking carrier pigeons, no one is stopping them from doing that but they're are owed nothing when it comes to providing them a platform for what they want to do.

censorship noun

cen·​sor·​ship | \ ˈsen(t)-sər-ˌship
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Definition of censorship

1a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring They oppose government censorship.
b : the actions or practices of censors especially : censorial control exercised repressively censorship that has … permitted a very limited dispersion of facts— Philip Wylie
2 : the office, power, or term of a Roman censor
3 : exclusion from consciousness by the psychic censor

It's literally the definition of censorship. It can also be "good business" (twitter lost 12% of its value over the weekend, mind you, so maybe it wasn't good business), but that doesn't mean it's not censorship. Censor isn't by itself a "bad" word, but it does mean the suppression or deletion of things considered objectionable. That is literally what was done. I don't see why the definition bothers you so much. Because Twitter and other companies censored someone doesn't mean they did anything wrong legally, but the legality of it doesn't make it not censorship.

Yep I have no problem calling it censorship, it just shows me not all censorship is bad, in fact we've known that our whole live, there has been plenty of accepted censorship our entire lives.

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Jivaro and others if you want to read more stories of families being ripped apart by Q, here's a subreddit, it shows how deep the problem is. Yes we are on the cusp of some kind of war, they aren't going away and as we see now they are planning on storming all capitols. Oh and there hasn't been one Q thing I've read that is grounded to the point I can even consider, it's such unbelievable fiction that changes as their shit gets debunked over and over.

https://old.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/

I feel for me it is important to understand what I'm dealing with.

To all that say freedom of speech is being taken away, again gov't and private are different, but what do you expect to happen if you attack the gov't and don't topple? You should expect the toughest reactions and penalties that can be given to Americans imo, that's what I would have thought. I like to make things simpler to grasp, other than the whole gov't. What does Horrorscope think will happen if he goes attack my local police station? Bad, bad things, expect death or life in prison.

Correct this isn't a high point in civilization, but we are a nation of laws and speech has limitations if you don't then you have nothing to stand on in the end. There is still plenty of room between this and say China.

The gov't has to look at what happened on the 6th as an attempt to overthrow it since violence was used, that is the differentiating factor and that violence is unquestionable, we've all seen it get very heated in a few places.

It's like if you attempt to overthrow then you have to go all the way through and conquer or you should really expect potential death penalties.

So as they find people in vids arrest and charge with whatever they charge, they also have to look at how they are organizing and that is what you saw yesterday. To expect the gov't to do nothing after what happened is naive. No it isn't ideal but something has to give. (Yes this was all private, but there is a relationship here)

Overall less the BLM race issues which is real to, I feel the issue is a wage gap issue, Joe's wants better living wages and beni's and not vampires at the top hoarding the cash. This isn't communism, this is being able to live the dream and be content. We are not content, that is the problem, that is what Biden has to address or fail. But that doesn't mean the gov't doesn't make these immediate steps to thwart organizing against it.

Yes I think TV broadcasting is equivalent as well, unsure if that is on the block or not.

Am I correct in thinking if Apple and Google doesn't want another conservative hot bed that any attempt at a new app is futile, mobile organization would have to happen via a website and browser?

jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 15:58:

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 12:57:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 02:32:

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 01:35:
Lets talk about Kentucky and how blue counties got over 200% of registered R votes and Dems only got 20% of theirs, from a Senator that was historically low in approval and how Kentucky uses the other company who makes voting machines and which conveniently don't have paper trails. Trump would only attack the other voting system. To note TX has the same no paper trail as Kentucky.

Huh, I hadn't heard that. Got a link?

Let me know you seen this, otherwise I post in a newer thread that makes some sense to do it in:

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/19/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-the-numbers-dont-add-up/

That's pretty damning. Aren't there paper ballots that can be hand-counted to verify the accuracy of the voting machines? Also, how did the election differ from the exit poll data? I couldn't find any other articles covering this.

In some states not. PA and GA went to a printed ballot this go around just because of potential fraud issues. KY and TX do not so one could simply hack into the DB and change the values and there ya go, no way to check. Pure BS system there.

I'm first going with Trump drums all this up ahead of time in the case he losses, he has people already thinking that way. But to make this even more devious on all ends is Trump knew he had the election rigged to the yang and the only way to beat him was to rig it on your end. So a takes one to know one.

I won't buy that unless it was proven in court. What I can buy though is no paper trail machines is pure BS ripe for fraud and look who has those vs those that don't.

Two biggest issues today:

1. State of Cyberpunk 2077.
2. The health of democracy in the US.
In that order.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 15:40:

Xil wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 10:03:
What mean is that a company as huge as twitter is can thus determin what it thinks the world should and should not read, i find that scary..... that is all

It's in Twitter's (and Facebook's) interest to be as accommodating to as many people as possible. That's how they make their money. In order to be removed one must truly have posted the most egregious content again and again.

Right, that actually hurt their bottom line because you know many drones dropped Twitter that moment to and they knew that. But at some point you have to stand for something just.