Send News. Want a reply? Read this. More in the FAQ.   News Forum - All Forums - Mobile - PDA - RSS Headlines  RSS Headlines   Twitter  Twitter
Customize
User Settings
Styles:
LAN Parties
Upcoming one-time events:
San Diego, CA 08/21

Regularly scheduled events

User information for HorrorScope

Real Name HorrorScope   
Search for:
 
Sort results:   Ascending Descending
Limit results:
 
 
 
Nickname HorrorScope
Email Concealed by request
ICQ None given.
Description
Homepage http://
Signed On May 28, 2003, 23:35
Total Comments 6044 (Guru)
User ID 17232
 
User comment history
< Newer [ 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 ] Older >


News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
75. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 22, 2016, 12:11 HorrorScope
 
Killer app not enough?

Well first we have to understand what we feel is the goal?

Total domination of the masses, well out side of pc gaming? Or for pc gamers to accept this as a standard device most have for enjoyment? To me the later is the focus for me at this point, I'm not here worried about company stock prices.

But the idea of a killer app is that it is the one that changed everything, drove it home, yada yada. There only ever has to be one killer app to get the whole thing going, otherwise it wouldn't be considered "killer app", just a very nice app.

This comment was edited on Feb 22, 2016, 12:18.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Farming Simulator 17 Announced
5. Re: Farming Simulator 17 Announced Feb 22, 2016, 11:52 HorrorScope
 
I wonder if playing this, you then count as a farmer at farmers only? Farmer at heart. I'm thinking... yes!  
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Sunday Mobilization
2. Re: Sunday Mobilization Feb 22, 2016, 11:02 HorrorScope
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 22, 2016, 08:42:
Meanwhile it is a mystery whether these things can still be used as a phone in case of an emergency. Where are the tests that compare audio quality and connection stability? (actual real issues with modern smart-phones, which as I feel, have gotten exceptionally bad at being a phone) Or maybe it's where I live....

+100. Zactly.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
68. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 22, 2016, 10:48 HorrorScope
 
descender wrote on Feb 22, 2016, 08:18:
A killer app helps but it's not enough. CDRoms were already down to $200-$300 by that point and could be added to nearly every PC in existence. They also alrady had the entire music industry behind them, so it's not really an apt comparison.

The barrier to entry for VR is just too high and will never go mainstream until the hardware to run it is entirely self contained and way less than $1000. I don't think it's a fad, I think we're close enough this time to that self-contained unit being a possibility that this wave of VR won't totally die out before that becomes a reality.

Until they are USB-C with a blockbox video card to power it... and it gets some major content provider behind it... (porn would help, but I'm thinking they need animated 3d movies to be released in VR or something) the general public is never going to buy these things.

Sometimes I wonder what we are arguing about, as for VR going mainstream, well I'm not investing in it. I'll I want it is to be awesome with pc games. That is my level of care. That said, I do agree for it to be mainstream cheaper and self-contained are biggies and both will be coming, but as the father from Contact said... baby steps.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
1. Re: Morning Safety Dance Feb 22, 2016, 10:39 HorrorScope
 
The chip is fucking stupid, a pin is fucking smart. You steal my card physically you have the chip just like my number. If you use a chip card online it doesn't validate the chip then. HELL-O?

You steal my card with a pin associated to it, you essentially get nothing and a criminal wouldn't be targeting you for credit cards. Continue with the charade though...
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
56. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 23:33 HorrorScope
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 23:14:
Fantaz wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 16:02:
I wonder how much StarVR will cost...

http://www.starvr.com/

probably over $1000 US? the specs seem higher than both Oculus and Vive, with a 1440p screen for each eye (5K, 32:9).

Yeah, I wouldn't have thought so initially, but now I think you're right: they'll be up over a grand.

Also, I have to take issue with their 5K claim. Yes, there's 5K vertical columns, but due to the overlap that causes the 3D, your viewing area is only about 3K x 1440p. Still, that's an amazing resolution and probably close to overcoming the screendoor effect.

Screendoor can also be affected by pixel density (aka lesson black space between pixels) I believe that is how they addressed it.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
51. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 21:36 HorrorScope
 
TheEmissary wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 21:21:
PCs have always hit various price point in relation to performance. You didn't and still don't have to spend insane amount of money to have a functional PC that can game. VR needs to have a spectrum of different hardware at price points people are willing to spend.

VR could be a game changer we just don't know. It will probably be a super niche market for several years. I was hoping for something more approachable price wise. Price wise I could afford one but I would like to see a healthy ecosystem of players and developers before I buy one.

Correct, but since games/hw haven't progressed fast enough over the past many years, we've been able to play for a lot cheaper than in the past. Yep we'll just have to wait and see, there are lots of people hw/sw wise trying to make their name here.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
48. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 20:45 HorrorScope
 
TheEmissary wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 20:06:
NKD wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 19:57:
Never understood why some people were under the impression this thing was going to be cheaper than Oculus.

There is no cheap access point for VR at all. If you want to go Gear VR its $99 + $700-800 phone. If you want Oculus Rift its $599 + ~1500 PC that can run this. The Vive is $799 + ~1500 PC again.

So your looking at between $1000 (phone) or 2.5K (highend PC) for a VR capable system. Thats not mainstream yet. These headsets were treated like they would be affordable for about the cost of a next generation console. It was really how they set the expectations.

These prices sound like the PC vs Console wars of yesteryear with console players overstating costs. There is a good chance you already have the pc perhaps less a 970 grade GPU. People make it sound like the market is for people with no pc, that don't play pc games currently, it's all just brand new everything.

Yes you can buy a bit over-priced name brand vr pc now, that's like quoting the price of an alienware system is what it costs to play today's pc games. Lets start acting like we've all been at Blue's for years now and are vets to all of this. It's $600-800 minimum, could be more if you need more.

Like your phone comparison, if you own the phone, it's $99 for VR.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
42. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 19:09 HorrorScope
 
Squirmer wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 18:56:
theglaze wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 18:43:
VR is rushing to mobile phones, high-end PCs, and consoles at relatively the same time...this is unprecedented for any technology (that I can think of), and suggests that it's not just a fad but a shift by the electronics industry on how its consumers interact with future digital media.
This is such an overstatement. One console manufacturer is making a VR device, while Microsoft's augmented reality is just an experiment at this stage. Some mobile manufacturers are making VR gear but whether consumers want to start strapping stuff to their face instead of using their phones in a more sensible way remains to be seen. And VR is expensive as hell on high-end PCs. At this stage it's still just an interesting technology that has a few good niche applications, but suggesting it's a "new era" and people are going to fundamentally shift the way they interact with technology is just silly.

It isn't that far out there, sure no one knows for sure, but everyone who's anyone is working on it. All the consoles, Google, Apple, Facebook, LG, Samsung, Valve, AMD, NVidia, Razer and more. Even on this same page here at Blue's today, we see LG has a new VR offering. They are all definitely trying here and they must be impressed to a certain level to all be going for it. It has to start somewhere and they know who will put out the $$$'s.... and they are right, we'll carry the day.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
41. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 19:01 HorrorScope
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 18:15:
HorrorScope wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 14:13:
Some ever think they are getting old and sounding that way?

We never needed an Atari 2600, but video games still happened without a need. Yes it is costly, but Oculus has shown there is an initial demand at the price they are asking for, which is very common with consumer electronics. They start high and come down.

Lets stick with flat panels and continue to poo poo more things than cheer for, that makes as much sense. What must have game has really come out for flat panels in the past few? Since they won't advance AI/Physics very much, it's pretty much all the same. Good, but the same, a little boring and plenty of jaded gamers.

Most people never owned an Atari. And once PCs became predominant for work everyone got one, gaming was just a bonus. There may be 10s of millions of console sales but there are billions of PC sales. That's the difference between need and want.

I can tell you right now no one in Canada will be buying one of these things at $1100 a pop. Then throw in another $1500 dollar PC needed for it and yeah, you can forget about it unless you have money to burn.

You do realize Rift's are back-ordered at this point? Meaning demand greater than supply? You do realize people pay 1000's for pc's? You do realize people pay $100's for virtual space ships? Price isn't the most important thing, right now the most important thing is that this is a really good device(s).

There are many levels of pc gamers now you are just trying to find a low denominator and stating "They won't", but as someone who brought up 3DFX, there is the hard core and they will carry the day early on and we'll see if it has legs.

Also mentioned with the 3dfx was Quake, but that actually didn't come out for a while after release. Once the big one drops it will be history and you, me and everyone will be there. I remember real early on people didn't know or understand what a gpu was doing, until they seen.

That said, there is no guarantees, but there will be a lot of buyers to get this going and I think developers will be there as they look for new markets to make their fortune on.

 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
23. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 15:58 HorrorScope
 
DangerDog wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 15:50:
Personally, I'm more interested in upgrading to 4k gaming but I'm going to wait for the next GPU's from Nvidia before taking that plunge.

Yep and that isn't cheap either.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
19. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 15:17 HorrorScope
 
DangerDog wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 15:14:
Unless you have money to burn you never buy version 1.0 of any tech product.

Right, but that doesn't mean it is bad and that we shouldn't be thankful to those that do. It all has to start somewhere.

Here are people that think the price is fine and will be people like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
16. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 14:46 HorrorScope
 
Aero wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 14:33:
I am definitely a little disappointed after the ~$300 to $400 estimates went up in smoke. All the same, I'll probably buy a headset come June or July once the dust has settled. I've heard very good things about the Vive's head tracking.

I do have doubts about the future though because I'm probably a special case. Most of the games I play are racing sims, flight sims and space sims where you are sitting in a cockpit and a VR headset makes all kinds of sense. I use a TrackIR for those anyways, and VR headsets are just an upgrade on that principle. I'm near due for an upgrade anyways, so $1200 or so isn't necessarily a deal breaker. It's definitely a lot of money, though. Not the sort of money I spend without very good reason. VR *could* be very good reason, or it might not be.

Other sorts of games like first person shooters and the like, I'm not convinced it will be worth it for. There's almost going to have to be an entirely new genre nobody has thought of yet if they expect it to go beyond the sim niche. That said, free running on rooftops in Dying Light might be pretty cool with a headset if it supports them.

Yeah initially they hinted at the Oculus being around $300 (but then it got stuck in long development), Valve stated their headset was going to be more than Rift's so... Yeah, there is a 50-50 chance I'll have one by mid-summer prior to me heading back to my homeland, there my old buds are big car/hunter types, VR racing is going to drop their jaws and will probably open a couple wallets doing so.

I have pretty high hopes FPS shooters will find their mark as well, the immersion will be to great to ignore.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
13. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 14:13 HorrorScope
 
Some ever think they are getting old and sounding that way?

We never needed an Atari 2600, but video games still happened without a need. Yes it is costly, but Oculus has shown there is an initial demand at the price they are asking for, which is very common with consumer electronics. They start high and come down.

Lets stick with flat panels and continue to poo poo more things than cheer for, that makes as much sense. What must have game has really come out for flat panels in the past few? Since they won't advance AI/Physics very much, it's pretty much all the same. Good, but the same, a little boring and plenty of jaded gamers.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > EA Asks About Interest in Dragon Age Tactics
27. Re: EA Asks About Interest in Dragon Age Tactics Feb 21, 2016, 13:45 HorrorScope
 
Hey I love me some Pc Master race stuff like the next, but the PC elitism in terms of "if only a pc version". Seesh. Bioware do this, do whatever the fuck you want to do, if people like it they'll buy it if they don't they'll buy something else. Make it for whatever platforms you want, jeeze. You own me nothing.

That last thing I'm jonesing for these days is another flat panel pc game, dime a dozen and that includes tactical tb games. Tons of them now. The indy scene has blown selection wide open. I'm more in a paralysis in terms on what to choose to play next, I struggle with this.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
8. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 13:40 HorrorScope
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 13:36:
This fad is over before it begun. 5 year from now there are going to be several million people with really expensive, dusty paperweights.

I'd say worst case is there will be an indy underground for software for a long time coming. There will at least be millions of these out in the wild (Oculus/Vive). It all starts April, we'll see. If reviews are good and software seems promising, I'll be getting one or the other. No, I don't plan on going out in the public with one of these on.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > HTC Vive in April for $799
6. Re: HTC Vive in April for $799 Feb 21, 2016, 13:22 HorrorScope
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 21, 2016, 13:04:
Whenever I see VR marketed as "casual" gaming I laugh, because 800$ isn't ever gonna be "casual" anything.

When has pc stuff really been all that causal? We still have mobile and console vr for that. The $600-$800 vr start up cost is very much a pc master race price.

So we wait until April for both to drop and see what word of mouth is.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > EA Asks About Interest in Dragon Age Tactics
10. Re: EA Asks About Interest in Dragon Age Tactics Feb 20, 2016, 16:52 HorrorScope
 
Yeah I'd like to see it, not demanding PC only, however that is where I would play it.

Also loved the Frostbite engine in that latest DA, it makes it a much more massive game.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Warren Spector Joining Otherside for System Shock 3
18. Re: Warren Spector Joining Otherside for System Shock 3 Feb 17, 2016, 16:26 HorrorScope
 
Both were great in their day. SS1 remake with today's standards should be able to best SS2 in single player any way. Both games were well ahead of the curve back then in terms of 3d/Gameplay Depth. Most others were running fast around a maze guns blazing, the end.

As for this news of Spector being involved, it could be good or not good, we'll never know until we know.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
3. Re: Morning Safety Dance Feb 17, 2016, 12:23 HorrorScope
 
Today they'll classify something new as a "National Security Threat". But we know one major threat on so many levels that seemingly will never be considered one. The Internet. It makes me wonder what weak ass sauce they do classify, when we have this huge gaping insecure hole of data floating around with a total false sense of any level of security.

This comment was edited on Feb 17, 2016, 12:49.
 
Avatar 17232
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
6044 Comments. 303 pages. Viewing page 21.
< Newer [ 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 ] Older >


footer

Blue's News logo