Scottish Martial Arts wrote on May 9, 2016, 15:00:
Scud wrote on May 9, 2016, 02:11:
And another thing kids, Scottish Martial Arts will happily commit acts of murder for fun and profit, it's his inalienable right after all. Sorry Scottie, you don't get to claim the moral high ground just because you find someone else's fictional criminal activities more repulsive than yours. You will be all to eager to join the torch and pitchfork mob when they come for those Japanese rape games today, but tomorrow they'll be coming for your murder simulators.
Point taken but then I can't recall ever playing a game in which the player character was a serial killer, sadistically killing innocents for pleasure. I kind of doubt that rape fantasy games involves the "hero" fighting Russian/Alien/Demonic invasions through the power of rape.
My point is that the pro-Gamer Gate crowd has a remarkable tendency to say and/or heavily imply misogynistic attitudes for a movement that ostensibly isn't sexist. Mashiki made a remark that was very revealing about his attitude towards women; when taken in context of some of the other things he likes, namely rape fantasies, the position that he is only interested in journalism ethics -- and is not at all motivated by misogyny -- becomes all the more tenuous. I just wanted to shed some light on some context of which some of you all might not be aware.
Sure, and my point was that the content of the games you're playing or the porn you're reading or watching is irrelevant, as long as it's fiction.
I might be the hero of the wasteland when I'm playing Fallout 4 but I'm also popping people's heads like ripe watermelons left and right, and I rather enjoy it. In real life I haven't so much as punched anyone since I was around seven. I am not a violent person in reality, but in today's media environment people would use my previous statement to completely define me and conclude that I'm a murder spree waiting to happen. To me there's no difference between this and someone's rape fantasy.
Gamer Gate's lack of leadership and direction makes it easy for anyone to say anything and claim they're part of the movement. It also makes it easy for anyone opposed to them to use it's worst elements to define them.
I agree with the basic premise that video games journalism (if not, journalism in general really) is corrupt, but beyond that any real message is lost in the noise. Just like I agree with the basic premise of Feminism, that women and men should be treated as equals, it's just when we start getting into the specifics of what that is supposed to look like that things start to fall apart for me.
As for Mashiki Amiketo's posts in the link you provided, I didn't see anything in them that even stated what his (her?) specific preferences were. There was nothing there that I perceived as especially misogynistic, engaging in rape fantasies is not necessarily an expression of a desire to engage in actual rape. But many people have a hard time separating that from their emotional gut reaction to anything even near the subject.