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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
13. Re: Morning Safety Dance Apr 15, 2015, 16:09 Orogogus
I don't think the police have enough evidence for the DA to do anything. From the article, it seems the investigation was initiated and handled by the TSA, who let the victim walk away unidentified. That's a poor start, and finding said victim would be unreasonably difficult.  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule
239. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule Apr 14, 2015, 23:01 Orogogus
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 17:22:
SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:23:
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:21:
This is one of the longest front page threads since, since, since Gamergate!
What about Elite?

I thought that wasn't a front page thread, which is why I used those words. I thought it was a general discussion forum post. Am I remembering wrong?

Well, yes. How would a general discussion forum post ever get that many posts? Those are lucky to break 20.
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
9. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 14, 2015, 21:24 Orogogus
killer_roach wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 21:18:
Science fiction has had an ideology issue ever since Asimov's spiteful attitude toward Heinlein. Ever since most of the genre's standard-bearers have been pretty staunchly to the political left - even, until very recently, Orson Scott Card, who is now regarded somewhere between persona non grata and an apostate of the highest order.

Is that a recent thing? I feel like Card's books got kind of unreadably preachy before there was much Internet to go around, around the mid-90s. I remember reading the fourth Alvin Maker book and Ender's Shadow, and thinking, geeze, this guy's found religion, which apparently was exactly the case. And that was about 20 years ago.
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News Comments > Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup
22. Re: Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup Apr 11, 2015, 22:50 Orogogus
ViRGE wrote on Apr 11, 2015, 16:47:
But just keeping an eye on the last few hours of the campaign, something feels wrong. When you crossed $600K a few hours beforehand and still ended up barely making it (by 0.3%), that's a bit odd.

I'd assume that's from people worried about it not reaching its funding target, but who don't really care about the stretch goals (or don't expect it to hit any of the stretch targets). I mean, there's a reward at $600K but none until $625K. It doesn't seem that surprising to me that people would check in and A) see that it's not at $600K yet but close and donate, or B) see that it hit $600K, and not donate.

What does seem weird is the total going down. But Kicktraq shows spikes in backers and comments corresponding to the donation spikes in the last 3 days. If the developers really did pour into their own Kickstarter it seems like they would have had to create a few hundred dummy accounts and sock puppets; that kind of thing seems like it would be easily detectable by Kickstarter (and I'm pretty sure I read that they forbid project owners from topping off their own projects).
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News Comments > Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic
34. Re: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic Apr 9, 2015, 12:29 Orogogus
I didn't know this wasn't common knowledge at this point, but if you want to save Paul, (spoiler) don't go through the window. That's it.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
13. Re: Evening Tech Bits Apr 9, 2015, 01:01 Orogogus
jimnms wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 21:23:
I'm calling the article BS for claiming it's optional. If it were optional, it would be optional not recommended.

Huh? If it weren't optional, it would be mandatory, not recommended. Like how most Steam games don't give you a choice about whether to download and install their updates.
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News Comments > Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month
10. Re: Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month Apr 9, 2015, 00:56 Orogogus
Rhino wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 23:46:
I feel like there is a greater honesty about what Euro Truck Simulator 2 is than there was about Elite. Yes, much of that may just be in my head

I think it's not just you, but I also feel like everyone saying this never played the old Elite games, either. Elite 2 and 3 were practically the same space-trucking game as E:D, and while the original Elite had more arcadey combat it was still very much an empty sandbox.

I'm guessing people's expectations come from games like WoW, GTA and Skyrim, where there are quests everywhere and story missions to give you something to do. Elite, especially 2 and 3, was always about flying a spaceship and not a whole lot else. From the interviews with Ian Bell, I gather Bell (who left after the first game) was more interested in making an exciting game, while Braben wanted the space simulator. But from what I've read at least the combat in E:D is a lot better now (i.e., actually fun) than it was in Elite 2 and 3.
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News Comments > Star Control Reboot FAQ
16. Re: Star Control Reboot FAQ Apr 8, 2015, 18:27 Orogogus
jdreyer wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 16:11:
I can't recall if I played Starflight 1 or 2, but IIRC they were pretty different from the MOO series. Starflight was adventure and exploration in a single ship, whereas MOO was 4x.

Are there any modern games that are similar to the Starflight series? I adored that game back in the day and lost many hours to it. I supposed E:D comes close?

E:D is basically the same game as Elite 2 and 3, with a modern engine. The lack of a campaign plot sets them pretty far apart from Starflight and Star Control; they're pure sandbox games that expect you to do a lot of Euro Trucking, in space.

I think the closest thing I've played recently (here meaning 2004) would be Space Rangers II. And Escape Velocity Nova 2 years before that. Last year's Starpoint Gemini might be in the same vein, but I haven't played it.
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News Comments > Star Control Reboot FAQ
8. Re: Star Control Reboot FAQ Apr 8, 2015, 12:55 Orogogus
Bundy wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 11:50:
Creston wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 10:14:
So isn't this basically GalCiv 3, just with different names?

Star Control wasn't always a 4X strategy. In the beginning it was an adventure. Then they ruined it.

I feel like you and the Burrito started with Star Control 2. Star Control 1 wasn't an adventure game; instead of an action-adventure-RPG overlaid on the melee game, it had a light turn-based 2-player strategy game. It wasn't really anything to write home about, though. The most notable thing about it was being able to find Precursor artifacts to power up your ships, boosting Mycon Podships to the point where they'd instantly ram their own plasma spheres.

EDIT: Here's a YouTube link:

I've been wondering out loud in all the threads regarding this new game -- why didn't Stardock just make whatever game they had in mind using their GalCiv universe instead of using the Star Control property? It's so bizarre. Not only are they rebooting the universe, not only are Ford and Reiche not on board, they don't even have rights to the aliens. They're making a Star Control without the Ur-Quan. Apparently Precursors aren't considered one of the protected alien races, and are fair game, but ancient spacefaring god-races aren't exactly unique to Star Control.

And as I've noted before, Star Control 2 was very similar to Starflight 1 and 2. Ford & Reiche and Accolade didn't need to buy any rights from EA to make SC2, they just basically made a Starflight spiritual successor without bothering to announce it as such, using their own races and spaceships. Wouldn't it have been just as easy for Stardock to do the same?

He explains the rights issues that will allow Stardock to use the name and concept...from the original games

It's entirely unclear to me what rights and what concept they bought. It doesn't really make any more sense to me than the Atari rebrand or XCOM Declassified, and I have to assume it's the same sort of thing at play here -- just buying people in with nostalgia.

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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
9. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Apr 6, 2015, 03:50 Orogogus
jdreyer wrote on Apr 6, 2015, 03:37:
Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad for this guy at all. I am just disturbed by the trend overall that when a crime is committed on a computer that the punishments in general can be pretty far out of whack relative to other crimes. I wonder if I printed these women's photos out and stapled them to telephone poles around town, if I'd have gotten 18 years for that. The average sentence in the US for murder and manslaughter is 20 years. Is what he did as bad as killing someone? The sentence is nearly the same.

As for Bernie Madoff, he didn't get 150 years for white collar crime, he got 150 years for white collar crime against rich people.

It seems like you keep equating this as one offense/victim. If the guy had killed all those women instead of posting their private information and extorting them, I don't think there's any doubt that he'd be getting a life sentence, or the chair.
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
6. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 3, 2015, 16:01 Orogogus
I don't know, that article mentions how the deaf group went after Harvard and MIT for not providing subtitles for their free online courses, and it doesn't come across very sympathetically. It gives the impression that you can't do anything nice and free for the public without going through committees, lawyers, approvals and so on. Expecting a service is fine, legally obligating it and handing out punitive fines seems like another.  
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News Comments > Reclaim Your Game Program
16. Re: Reclaim Your Game Program Apr 2, 2015, 17:03 Orogogus
Haha, no, but I'm not surprised there's something like that because Internet. But you wouldn't expect there to be a fancy literary term for having to pick between two imperfect options; that's just life.

A Catch-22 would be like if a game could originally only go online with Gamespy, which got patched out but not replaced in 1.3, but then if you log on with 1.2 it tells you have an old version and kicks you out. It's that kind of circle of failure and misery that the term refers to.
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News Comments > Reclaim Your Game Program
11. Re: Reclaim Your Game Program Apr 2, 2015, 14:53 Orogogus
Task wrote on Apr 2, 2015, 14:32:
jdreyer wrote on Apr 2, 2015, 14:24:
But doesn't the 94 version have dynamic music?

It does, but doesn't have the upgraded graphics that 95 has ;). A catch-22 if you will. All versions have the same stellar gameplay of course, just a matter of personal preference.

An either/or situation isn't a Catch-22 at all.
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
13. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Mar 31, 2015, 19:34 Orogogus
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 31, 2015, 18:36:
I am going to sue the teriyaki shop down the street for being closed on Sundays. Your holy day of rest is my inconvenience, and my appetite doesn't observe the Sabbath, shitlords.

That's also not a parallel construction. People are upset because customers aren't being treated equally. And probably because, in the case of the Washington state florist involved in this controversy, it doesn't seem like it should be the company's business what I'm going to do with a product I buy legally.

I mean, take EA or Valve. You do something they don't approve of on their forums or curse in game and get reported, they ban you and on top of that they refuse to sell you any more games; for the sake of fairness let's say they give your money back and refund past sales. That still doesn't seem like it would be cool at all. What if they blacklist you for defending someone who got banned, outside their forums? Or because you wanted to play Battlefield at your gay marriage reception?

It just seems like people sticking their nose in your business and saying it's okay because religion. Don't sell pink flowers? Sure. Not open on Sundays? Fair enough. Not going to sell me anything because I'm going to marry outside my faith? It seems like a line's been crossed.

I think the peyote case is different because so many people basically just don't believe in the war on drugs. If it had been almost any other law at stake it wouldn't have gone over well. If it had had anything to do with Islam we'd still be getting outraged emails about it now.
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
8. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Mar 31, 2015, 15:05 Orogogus
FloorPie wrote on Mar 31, 2015, 14:57:
ldonyo wrote on Mar 31, 2015, 14:48:
You really don't understand what that law does, do you?

It legalizes discrimination against anyone as long as you claim you hold a "sincerely held religious belief" that prevents you from treating someone you don't like/don't want to like/looks or acts different than you with any respect whatsoever. It will be especially hard on people in small and rural communities where there may only be one place to get a type of product or service.

So you'll support me when I sue a Jewish cafe owner for not selling me pork products? Can a Jewish person demand something on the menu at Red Lobster be kosher?

How does that look like a reasonable analogy to you? Can I go to Jiffy Lube and demand a kosher menu? A Jewish cafe owner probably doesn't sell pork products. Red Lobster may not have Jewish cooks on staff to prepare kosher foods. This isn't about stores not selling products or services they don't currently offer, it's about denying service to people they don't like.
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News Comments > Saturday Consolidation
3. Re: Saturday Consolidation Mar 29, 2015, 17:27 Orogogus
It had splitscreen coop on 360, too. They're just saying there haven't been many splitscreen games on the PS4 and XB1.  
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
5. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 27, 2015, 16:13 Orogogus
jdreyer wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 14:11:
Leaked Contract: Amazon Makes Warehouse Workers Sign 18-Month Non-Compete Agreements.

That's fucking evil. These aren't employees with sensitive knowledge of Amazon's inner workings. They're just grunts. I'm sure something like this would never stand up in court, but of course someone making $12 an hour would never take them to court. It's just intimidation, pure and simple.

I'm reasonably certain that the courts in California deemed non-compete agreements to be non-enforceable on the grounds that it harms a person's ability to make a living. So probably each state has to decide for itself.
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News Comments > Gatherings & Competitions
12. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Mar 27, 2015, 14:22 Orogogus
NetHead wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 13:50:
I don't care for "booth babes" I think it's childish and stupid, I normally avoid tech magazines that have models prominently on the cover, though I also don't run around telling anyone to stop doing it.

I feel like it's gotten the point where there's no discussion to be had any more and we're just beelining for our soapboxes, but oh well.

If we say RSA Conference is analogous to a tech magazine, aren't they trying to not be that kind of magazine with a model on the cover, so that serious people will take them seriously? There are articles commenting that if anything, babe-focused booths tend to be a waste of time and attendees want to have exhibitors that can talk the talk. Shouldn't it be in RSA's interest to steer their show towards the kind of show that people want?

No one's picketing them, there's no boycott. It looks like they decided they didn't want to be that kind of show, which you've already said you find distasteful in a magazine. What's different here?
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News Comments > Gatherings & Competitions
10. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Mar 27, 2015, 11:00 Orogogus
InBlack wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 10:53:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 09:15:
Redmask wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 07:16:
Let's just ban all sexuality in our culture, people can walk around as asexual Nintendo amiibos and we'll all live in happyland where everyone is treated equally.
3 out of 10 on this Troll attempt.

He does have a point though. Where do we draw the line? Has anyone asked the booth babes' opinion on this? I seriously doubt it. Booth babes are people too, people who need to feed and clothe themselves and their families. If a pretty lady can make money showing off her curves why should I or anyone else stop her??

I don't think it's much different from the standards Blue has on ads here -- no giant popups, sounds, etc. If his ad company started letting in straight up porn ads, do you think he has some kind of moral responsibility to let the porn models earn their keep?
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News Comments > Gatherings & Competitions
6. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Mar 27, 2015, 00:35 Orogogus
PropheT wrote on Mar 26, 2015, 22:29:
Well... the first article just sort of mentions it and why it works and doesn't say anything bad about it other than it's a sort of annoying way to sell products on a conference floor.

The second says the same thing, but also says that "4 or 5 booths" had them last year. That's out of this rather long list of exhibitors.

The third just says that every now and then you get a creepy guy, otherwise it's a decent gig if you can get it. It doesn't say anything bad about it.

The last one he's actually talking about marketing folks who are just there to push the product and can't discuss anything of substance with the people they're trying to sell to... so it's a waste of his time.

Given all of that, I'd say it's hard to argue that it's a problem rather than they're doing it either as a PR move or because their clientele are sick of marketing schticks in an industry that can't do shit without someone who can talk shop.

Well, in the context of jdreyer's post, I read his question as, "Are there really a lot of booth babes at the RSA Conference?", like, "Are ants a problem in this apartment?" And apparently, yes, there are a lot of them. Whether it's a bad thing or not is something people can answer for themselves, but as you said the gist of most of those links seems to be that attendees would rather have a useful show than a glitzy spectacle. Presumably the ban works to that effect.
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