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News Comments > Steam Discovery Changes Will "Fight Fake Games"
26. Re: Steam Discovery Changes Will Apr 5, 2017, 13:29 Orogogus
 
JohnQP wrote on Apr 5, 2017, 07:26:
P.S., I do kinda hate Steam; 30% cut for Valve is criminal. I wish some better service would come along and steal all their business. I don't know anything about the details, but I'd guess monopolistic practices (coercing exclusive distro deals) are the only reason Steam has survived this long. Otherwise someone charging far less should have eaten Gabe's lunch a long time ago.

People say this, but what are they comparing to? Just an imaginary world where digital distributors charge 2%, or is there an actual company you have in mind? I understand iTunes also takes 30%, and it seems to do less than Steam. GOG is supposed to be 30%. And when you sell something at retail most consumer goods go through two or three layers of 100% markup.

The Humble Store only takes 5%, according to the Fez guy, so there you go. Buy all your stuff there.

The idea that Valve is coercing exclusive deals seems wildly ridiculous, just completely disconnected from reality. If they did something like that it would be out on the web immediately, like it is when Oculus or Microsoft does something similar. Even the fact that Valve has salespeople would be news.

Just imagine a game announcing that it's only releasing as a Humble Store or itch.io exclusive, and then imagine the forum responses. Look at the posts when a publisher says it's launching its own online sales front. "Monopolistic practices" was really the most likely answer?
 
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News Comments > Cheat Maker Owes Blizzard $8.5M
20. Re: Cheat Maker Owes Blizzard $8.5M Apr 5, 2017, 13:12 Orogogus
 
JohnQP wrote on Apr 5, 2017, 06:56:
Leftists blame the drug trade on Americans, because they are the demand side (their argument, not mine). They also blame the gun trade on Americans, because they are the supply side (their argument, not mine). Notice the pattern?

That doesn't seem super solid. In your own analogy the drug users/dealers and gun retailers are pimps, hookers and johns. I think it's pretty obvious even to hardcore gun control proponents that if US companies didn't supply arms someone else would, but that doesn't lend any moral weight to doing so.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
17. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Apr 3, 2017, 07:24 Orogogus
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Apr 3, 2017, 07:16:
And I never said nor implied it was a race crime...

Cutter said it was a race crime (black on white) and you came in to defend that.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
3. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Apr 2, 2017, 15:50 Orogogus
 
As Beamer has said before, Cutter has a Cutter-focused viewpoint, not a liberal or conservative one. If you approach every news story with a filter for oldish middle-class white North American male whose interests consist of the Internet, you won't go far wrong predicting his opinion on any given subject.  
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News Comments > Saturday Safety Dance
7. Re: Saturday Safety Dance Apr 2, 2017, 15:42 Orogogus
 
Creston wrote on Apr 1, 2017, 22:58:
Saboth wrote on Apr 1, 2017, 16:01:
Hope he has fun in prison with all of those Wells Fargo, Enron, and Volkswagen executives that are in there.

So far, zero Volkswagen executives are in jail. One engineer is under arrest because they're worried he'll just leave the country, since Germany won't extradite him. But that's it. None of the other fuckers will see jailtime.

That was his point, I'm pretty sure -- it's a lot more okay, on the order of a 10 year prison sentence, to screw over your country and the public than it is to screw over your company.
 
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News Comments > Total War: WARHAMMER II Announced
8. Re: Total War: WARHAMMER II Announced Mar 31, 2017, 15:56 Orogogus
 
When they announced the first game they said it was going to be a trilogy where all three games can link into one combined map.

Link

That being the case, it wouldn't be a good idea to spread them out too much since the engine would just get more and more outdated.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
8. Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 30, 2017, 16:26 Orogogus
 
HorrorScope wrote on Mar 30, 2017, 16:11:
He is sticking with Protectionism though and I can say that isn't a Corporate thing, they are totally Globalism. But yes in general you are correct.

It can be a corporate thing, too, depending where your business is positioned. There are definitely winners and losers in globalism, and it applies to companies, not just social classes.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
20. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Mar 30, 2017, 14:58 Orogogus
 
1badmf wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 17:16:
ledhead1969 wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 16:59:
I don't recall seeing ANY Blue's posts about this ISP selling thing for the 7.5 YEARS OBAMA ALLOWED IT. Hypocrisy FTW.

are you for real dude? that is so misleading you could be sued for defamation.

It's hard to follow. So if Trump bans abortion, or sweeps away gun control legislation at any time after day 1, it's exactly the same as if he was supporting abortion or gun control the whole time? And if its swept away in the next administration, Republicans don't get to say anything because Trump allowed it?

I think this board does lean left and I don't want to jump on people just for having a different view from everyone else, but sometimes it's just, do you have to be completely stupid to be on the right, or at least Team Trump?
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
10. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 30, 2017, 14:49 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 30, 2017, 14:13:
Porn-O-Matic wrote on Mar 30, 2017, 13:23:
Since when would alarmist, humanity-hating hipsters with a clipboard, a lab coat, and an agenda, be expected to follow scientific method?

I have some beachfront property I'll sell you in New Orleans. Cheap!

The post-facts era: it doesn't matter how much or what kind of evidence you bring to support your position. All you need is to beeline to namecalling and scream "us vs them" loud and often enough.

Is there any trend, graph or chart, or a preponderance thereof, that would convince deniers that climate change is real? Nope. Lab coats! Agenda! QED!
 
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News Comments > Videogame Hall of Fame Finalists
30. Re: Videogame Hall of Fame Finalists Mar 30, 2017, 14:17 Orogogus
 
I disagree with the people poo-pooing Windows Solitaire. Windows has had other games, Reversi in the old days and then Minesweeper, but Solitaire is in that sweet spot for casual time-wasting for all comers. Until the match-3 game came along I don't think there was anything else to rival it for killing productivity.

In contrast, the solitaire that comes with Windows 8 & 10 is an abomination. It's buggy, microtransactiony and ad-ridden. I can't believe Microsoft wants people to take them seriously as a games platform at the same time they're screwing up 27 years of a good thing.

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What fighting games came before SF2? I gather there was a SF1, but it looks like those relatively bland karate championship type games. If SF2 was the first one with a character select and different movesets I think that would be a pretty big evolution.
 
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News Comments > Videogame Hall of Fame Finalists
19. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 29, 2017, 16:04 Orogogus
 
Jagacademy wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 15:58:
Orogogus wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 15:54:
I think most of the oldies on this board probably played Dune 2, and I don't know why you think it wasn't a commercial success. It got a lot of glowing reviews, it was huge in my dorm, and it's one of three games that my dad has ever played (the other two being Freecell and Sudoku).

Warcraft was the first and pretty much only game where I ever thought, "Holy shit, you can just copy someone else's game like this without getting sued?" Ever since then I've assumed the answer is yes, you can, and gameplay can't be copyrighted.

Because this list isn't simply a list of "First games in every genre". Final Fantasy...literally the guy who created it said he was heavily influenced by the Ultima games, yet I don't see them on here.

What question are you answering here? I don't think I suggested that the list should be the first genre games. But I think Dune 2 had a huge impact and I think it sold well.

And really? Dune II/Warcraft was the first time you thought that one game copies another? C'mon man, you're really stretching here.

It was the first one I ever played that copied a look and feel so closely. But in general, X-Wing kind of looks and plays like Wing Commander. Final Fantasy is like Ultima. Tons of RPGs have hit points and magic points. But Warcraft had the same map/minimap/unit profile screen layout, the same controls, the same fog of war, the building/harvest/unit gameplay. I knew how to play without opening the manual, which wasn't always a thing back then.

If you had an earlier experience that was that similar, what was it?
 
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News Comments > Videogame Hall of Fame Finalists
16. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 29, 2017, 15:54 Orogogus
 
I think most of the oldies on this board probably played Dune 2, and I don't know why you think it wasn't a commercial success. It got a lot of glowing reviews, it was huge in my dorm, and it's one of three games that my dad has ever played (the other two being Freecell and Sudoku).

Warcraft was the first and pretty much only game where I ever thought, "Holy shit, you can just copy someone else's game like this without getting sued?" Ever since then I've assumed the answer is yes, you can, and gameplay can't be copyrighted.
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 29, 2017, 15:48 Orogogus
 
I don't see much in the United States section of that wiki article, other than some regulations pertaining to federal databases and specific states (esp. California).  
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
11. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 29, 2017, 15:35 Orogogus
 
Nimh wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 10:05:
I did more reading on it.. apparently P2 data privacy rules still apply. It seems the main thing it does is allow your ISP to be like Google/Facebook now. (which still sorta sucks because using Googlebook is a choice, chosing an ISP much less so)

What's that? Are you referring to the UK's Data Protection Act?
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
10. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 29, 2017, 15:30 Orogogus
 
maddog wrote on Mar 29, 2017, 15:04:
The way the dem bill/policy was written certain companies get to sell your info like they already do today but not others. This bill changes nothing except undoing democrats picking winners and loser in the advertising space. The spin on this is mind numbing and everybody is lapping it up. This bill is an effort to maintain free market principles.

I think that's a mischaracterization to the point of being an outright lie.

The policy designated information that was sensitive, like health information, financial information and SSNs, and made that opt-in across the board, not to be shared unless customers explicitly agreed. That protection is trash now.

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-16-148A1_Rcd.pdf
p13980, #178

The idea that companies like Google and Facebook were in a position to collect and sell your information the way an ISP can is just so stupid that it's hard for me to believe anyone who isn't paid would willingly regurgitate that pap. Google and Facebook use the data I choose to give them to target advertisements to me, but Charter and Comcast blatantly lobbied to take that data and sell it without asking permission.
 
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
1. Re: Morning Safety Dance Mar 27, 2017, 13:08 Orogogus
 
Another article to trigger that guy who's positive that Trump's not using his unsecured Android phone:

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/03/trump-android-tweets/520869/
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
17. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 22, 2017, 17:34 Orogogus
 
1badmf wrote on Mar 22, 2017, 17:27:
Verno wrote on Mar 22, 2017, 16:56:
One look at that chicken pretty much confirms the CBC report haha.

there's something funky with the scale in that video. i can't believe a chicken could ever get that big. also the hen that pokes out at the end is also staggeringly large if the scale is to be believed. which i don't, or we have the return to dominance of the dinosaurs on our hands.

Verno's talking about the Subway soy chicken article.
 
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News Comments > GOG Galaxy Leaves Beta
21. Re: GOG Galaxy Leaves Beta Mar 22, 2017, 17:02 Orogogus
 
Satoru wrote on Mar 22, 2017, 16:36:
So it's been nearly 3 years and their client is basically a glorified version of every other client on the planet. You should be screaming at GOG at how utterly incompetently slow they are releasing actual feature updates to the client.

I would think so, and I've complained about Steam a lot before, but it really strikes me how all the alternative clients I tried were seriously feature deficient compared to Steam. The latest offender I've had to deal with was Oculus Home, and a basic gap analysis presents a legion of failings. No refunds, can't install to different drives, miserable display, sorting and filtering options, web interface doesn't include ratings or reviews and it has even fewer options than the client, no gifting, no downloads screen, achievements text truncated all over the place, no account sharing, can't set up shortcuts to apps on SteamVR or anywhere else, no workshop functionality, no FPS counter...

I think it's kind of a dumpster fire. I think I had a similar reaction to Origin and Uplay at some point, although I don't remember them being as deficient as Oculus Home. They ran games fine, but if I were going to show up late to the party I would sit down and identify Steam's features, and then make a point of covering all or at least most of them. Is that really so hard? Or does it cost that much? If so, why even bother? GOG's feature list actually looks reasonable compared to the others I've tried.
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
13. Re: New GeForce Drivers and GTX 1080 Ti Reviews Mar 22, 2017, 02:13 Orogogus
 
descender wrote on Mar 21, 2017, 15:24:
Contempt is designed to be used for forcing the reveal of anonymous sources, not for self-incrimination.

Is this sarcasm? Contempt of court is used for a lot more than that.

jdreyer wrote:
Second, the gun analogy isn't really applicable here. A better analogy might be if he had a stash of kiddie pr0n mags and he hid them. The sister knew they existed, but the man couldn't remember where he'd hidden them. Could he be compelled to give up their location? Nope

It seems to me that it's more like his stash is in a box and he's refusing to open it. They don't actually care about the password. The authorities didn't ask him for it, they told him to unlock the encrypted drives, and for obvious reasons they don't believe him when he says he conveniently forgot -- hence the charge of contempt. They probably will charge him with just the evidence they have, but the details of the case are sealed so it's pretty murky.

It's not like this is a warrantless search. It's been established that most people aren't on board with encryption backdoors, for good reason. But at the same time it's not okay for the government to force people to let them in, either. It's like if buildings were unbreakable and you were allowed to just tell the police they couldn't come in, warrant or no warrant. You'd be able to get away with actual murder.

As the article says at the end, even if this is all well and good for child pornography, what about companies? When the government investigates them for wrongdoing, can they just claim they forgot every single password for their computers and networks and then not turn over any documents and records? The only reason the authorities in this case have any electronic evidence is because the guy didn't encrypt his computer. When people want the government to get on board with the digital age, what does the ideal procedure for catching these kinds of criminals look like? Installing Mission Impossible spy cams all around his house?
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
10. Re: New GeForce Drivers and GTX 1080 Ti Reviews Mar 21, 2017, 14:56 Orogogus
 
descender wrote on Mar 21, 2017, 14:45:
"Your Honor, the defendant knows he killed the victim... he just won't tell us he did. He remembers everything else he did that day except for the part where he is accused of committing murder."

Yeah, that'll work well! Rolleyes

The courts are really struggling to get acclimated to this new digital paradigm.

Well, and if the defendant's sister told the police that he showed her the body, and bullets on scene were provably fired from his gun.

Forensic examination of the computer indicated that the device had been used to visit known child exploitation sites and to download thousands of files with the same hash values as known child pornography files.

The files themselves, however, were not present on the computer. They are assumed to be stored on the external encrypted hard drives.

Authorities in Delaware investigating the case already had a sense of the contents of the drives because, according to court documents, the defendant's sister had told police investigators "that Doe had shown her hundreds of images of child pornography on the encrypted external hard drives."

It's not like they have nothing. Is the general position that the cops should just give up in cases like this and not bother prosecuting?
 
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