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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
27. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 22, 2017, 13:41 Orogogus
Beamer wrote on Nov 22, 2017, 08:37:
Again, who is celebrating Clinton?

I didn't say people were celebrating him, I said the left gave him a pass. Gloria Steinem's infamous 1988 opinion piece was a case in point. In no way did the Democrats turn on Clinton the way that NKD suggested is an endemic problem, and at the same time I think a Republican president boinking interns would have come under fire (while, yes, the Republicans would have ignored or "forgiven" it).

I think people on the left are mad at Franken because his actions were fucking gross. It wasn't just a gropey photo. I don't think it was "trivial" and I don't think it's okay because it was a one-off. It does make it better that he apologized, and that she accepted. I don't think he'll end up resigning or being forced out, especially since Tweeden has said she doesn't want him to, but he probably doesn't get to run for president. There are feminist groups pushing him to resign, but this is a feminist issue. I don't get any kind of feeling that the party is going to ask him to step down. I don't know how much more forgiveness people want out of this, and I don't know what other cases NKD is referring to.
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
15. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 21, 2017, 03:08 Orogogus
NKD wrote on Nov 20, 2017, 22:15:
I saw a comment on reddit (from some Trump supporter I think) that described the moral problem with the political parties something like this:

The Republicans have a Moral Hypocrisy problem, where they preach "family values", but do nothing to uphold them and will in fact overlook any misdeed if it means someone with an (R) next to their name gets in office.

The Democrats have a Moral Hypochondria problem, where they see horrific unforgiveable sins around every corner, and will not hesitate to throw one of their own to the wolves over some relatively trivial shit. All this so they can overcompensate and make a huge point of not tolerating the shit that the Republicans do, instead of just being reasonable.

This seems pretty spot-on to me. And I think it gets worse all the time. The left gets more eager to throw people under the bus when the right gets more eager to give people a free pass. It's like the worse the Republicans get, the worse the Democrats get to compensate.

Morally, the Democrat position is more defensible, but it's the politically losing position and isn't sustainable. The Democrats have to shun anyone who misbehaves, no matter how it hurts them politically, or else their base will riot. But the Republicans don't have to do the same.

I don't really agree. I feel like Bill Clinton got a giant pass from the left for wildly inappropriate use of power. And JFK. And I think the people blowing off the first Franken accusation as trivial are full of it. If it were a conservative male comedian like Tim Allen who 1) forced a kiss despite expressed discomfort, 2) used tongue, 3) drew devil horns on her autographed pictures, and 4) made a grope photo while she was asleep, then people would call it proof positive that he disrespects women and it would be brought up all the time. (D) - trying to be funny; (R) - bully and a lech. The usual forgive your friends schtick.

It's well and good to crow about the right not upholding family values, but women's rights are an actual thing on the left. Trading that in to jump on the moral hypocrisy bandwagon doesn't sound great. Who else do you think is getting railroaded undeservedly? Weinstein? Spacey?
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
3. Re: Evening Tech Bits Nov 20, 2017, 13:46 Orogogus
yuastnav wrote on Nov 19, 2017, 09:48:
MrBone wrote on Nov 18, 2017, 07:43:
Oh no, they can't train more scientists to push the agenda along. So sad.

What are you even talking about?

To the right, higher education is only good for producing leftists. The tech industry is another cancer, rather than one of the few remaining fields where the US is maintaining leadership. American greatness will come through manufacturing and energy-related jobs that only require high school degrees, once we get rid of the illegals.

Just insane. Back towards the beginning of Trump's presidency I read an analysis of his platform that summed it up as bringing America down to a level where the only thing we're good at is fighting wars. At the time I thought it was an extreme view, but not so much any more.
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News Comments > Golden Joystick Winners
35. Re: Golden Joystick Winners Nov 20, 2017, 13:16 Orogogus
Well, Gettysburg and Antietam came after Civilization. Post-Civ I can think of Magic: The Gathering, Colonization, the Civil War RTS games and Ace Patrol, which isn't as wildly diverse as he was back in the DOS era. Still far from a one-trick pony, though.  
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News Comments > Golden Joystick Winners
26. Re: Golden Joystick Winners Nov 20, 2017, 07:43 Orogogus
heroin wrote on Nov 20, 2017, 06:08:
Alpha Centauri was better than any Civ game - to this day - and he didn't even work on it.

That's a pretty bold claim. Is there a source for him not having worked on Alpha Centauri? He's listed as a designer (not lead designer) and coder.

And he's pretty much the opposite of a one-trick pony, but most of his his work was DOS games that came out when you were in grade school. He got started on flight sims, including the fairly important F-15/F-19/F-117A games, wrote one of the early landmark submarine games, and branched out into Pirates!, Sword of the Samurai, Railroad Tycoon and Covert Action before he wrote Civilization, and all these got great reviews. He's been much less prolific under Windows and the age of giant development teams, but it's strange that you call him a one-trick pony but then go for Garriott. I love Ultima, but "living medieval-fantasy world" is basically his one thing.
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News Comments > Apocalypse Cow
2. Re: Apocalypse Cow Nov 17, 2017, 12:59 Orogogus
Man-Eating Cow, I think.

I know "Apocalypse Cow" as the title of one of Dave Barry's old humor articles.
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
15. Re: Evening Tech Bits Nov 15, 2017, 12:56 Orogogus
Beamer wrote on Nov 15, 2017, 10:25:
It's tiny (actually pretty big by NYC standards, as it was redone right before I moved in, but it's still about 2"x8"

So like the size of two candy bars, haha.
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
2. Re: Evening Tech Bits Nov 14, 2017, 02:39 Orogogus
Those are the colors they use on the readout displays on Star Trek starting from TNG, aren't they? An image search for Star Trek computer screens suggests so, anyways.  
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News Comments > Star Wars Battlefront II Grind Complaints
38. Re: Star Wars Battlefront II Grind Complaints Nov 13, 2017, 13:54 Orogogus
Beamer wrote on Nov 13, 2017, 13:44:
This system rewards you not for accomplishments but time spent?

It does both, I gather -- a certain number of credits (32,400 + crates + crystals + crafting parts) for challenges, and then most of the rest in post-match rewards, which I guess relies mostly on time in-game. Also keeping in mind that apparently the most expensive heroes cost 60K.
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News Comments > Diablo III Season 12 Underway
8. Re: Diablo III Season 12 Underway Nov 12, 2017, 13:39 Orogogus
I got Grim Dawn with a Humble Bundle a while ago, and played it until I reached some dungeon with tons of environmental damage. Like if you click in the wrong place and don't immediately notice (while being swarmed by ghosty monsters) you're dead in like 3 seconds. I found it kind of unfun in an ARPG, but it felt like one of those hills developers love to die on.

Occasionally when I get an ARPG itch I wonder if I should give Blizzard some money, since they seem to cater to my breed of filthy casual scum. Free respecs sound swell to me and it doesn't seem to me that they're hurting anything, but yikes did people get angry about them.
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News Comments > EA to Acquire Respawn
8. Re: EA to Acquire Respawn Nov 9, 2017, 20:14 Orogogus
SimplyMonk wrote on Nov 9, 2017, 18:45:
I mean, does no at that company see a pattern here?

Buyouts usually work out very well for the people making the decision to sell. They'll make a lot more selling the company than they ever would collecting a paycheck.
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
15. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 9, 2017, 13:00 Orogogus
NKD wrote on Nov 9, 2017, 12:44:
Combine this with a bunch of former military joining up after their deployments treating suburbia like its fucking Fallujah.

There were articles recently about a Marine veteran who got fired for not gunning down a suspect and choosing to de-escalate the situation. They said in so many words that soldiers get more training in target discrimination and protecting civilians than police do, and are taught to accept a greater amount of personal risk.

One article, from last December: link
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
10. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 9, 2017, 12:38 Orogogus
Beamer wrote on Nov 9, 2017, 11:59:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2017, 11:47:
I have to say the whole explosion of sexual harassment charges in the news has me wondering a bit. Is it just me?

I read this stuff and it just doesn't fit into my life experience. I have neither witnessed nor heard personal accounts of these types of actions. And I'd like to think if I did witness it, I'd step in and say something. I don't think I've ignored it -- but it sounds so damn common I wonder if I have been blissfully ignorant?

1) I'd wager you have seen some awful things happen, but didn't fully realize they were awful at the time. You may have laughed with them. In a lot of these circumstances, the victims were laughing along with it because it was easier than saying something. That isn't consent.

That seems a little extreme without knowing Tact's environment and history, and assumes that not some or most but the overwhelming majority of settings have predation going on and don't do anything about it. I don't think it's impossible for someone to have escaped exposure, especially if they've always worked in companies that keep their managers in check, where everyone can see what's going on, and with HR departments that believe what they preach.

But the point at the end is probably applicable. The ones in the news lately are well-known Hollywood celebrities, politicians, Olympic coaches and other people with a high degree of power over other people's careers, often with no one above them to tell them what they can or can't do. If Tact doesn't deal with that kind of power I don't think it's inconceivable that he hasn't seen anything like the Spacey allegations in person before. A manager at a public library, for example, can only threaten so much misery on their employees, not enough to give them the expectation of getting away with anything outrageously heinous.
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
17. Re: Landscaping Drama...Rand Paul Nov 8, 2017, 22:10 Orogogus
Scheherazade wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 21:27:
Foregrip :

(NFA violations generally come in the form of a few years + $100'000 in fines. The pistol+foregrip combo is just one example I like. There is literally a phone book worth of federal firearm regulations that can land you in jail - almost all of which don't require that you even harm anyone. Most non-gun-owners [and ignorant weekend gun buyers that only go as far as squirreling away a pistol in the closet] are unaware these laws even exist [and only find out after they post a picture to facebook, and someone either warns them or they get a knock on the door].)

I don't know if it's changed since 2006, but that link suggests that it's legal after you've register your intent to modify the weapon.
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
18. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 8, 2017, 02:34 Orogogus
Beamer is clearly not saying that being foreign automatically makes you top talent. I thought his analogy was pretty easy to understand, but to take it down a notch -- if you want to find the fastest person, or the tallest, you're probably going to find someone faster or taller if you check every single person on the planet instead of just people in Detroit. You're not going to end up with someone slower or shorter, because "every single planet" includes the people in Detroit. So if you want the best, you look everywhere.

You, on the other hand, do seem to be saying that anyone who's top talent has got to be American. Or maybe that "good enough" is equivalent to "top". Is it that you think one worker is basically the same as any other once you've screened out the people who don't show up or steal from the company? Is "prioritizing hiring within your own country" really in the best interests of a company, any more than prioritizing the hiring of cat owners or left-handed people would be? When you talk about prioritizing the hiring of locals, it strongly implies that there are considerations other than hiring the best available candidate, which is where discussion seems to be falling apart.
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 7, 2017, 13:06 Orogogus
wtf_man wrote on Nov 7, 2017, 12:32:
So, your assumption is that there arenít best qualified people in our country own country?

Man... You can't talk up how great and eminently qualified the homegrown talent is and then mangle the English language like that.
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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
5. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 5, 2017, 20:22 Orogogus
jdreyer wrote on Nov 5, 2017, 17:58:
Cutter wrote on Nov 5, 2017, 14:26:
Creston wrote on Nov 5, 2017, 13:05:
It doesn't matter what Equifax does or doesn't do about that, it matters what the FTC will do.

Oh wait, the FTC just takes a bribe and shuts the fuck up, like the rest of our government.

Except when things get too hot then they go after them guns blazing. And that's the case here. Oh, I'm sure we'll see charges being laid against these guys before too long.
I guess it depends on how many rich white people got hurt. No one went to jail for causing the mortgage crisis a decade ago since the victims were largely poor and middle class and a lot of minorities. Bernie Madoff went to jail because he stole from rich white folks.

If there were that much of a fire to do something about Equifax then the Republican Senate wouldn't have voted to make arbitration clauses binding two weeks ago, taking class action lawsuits out of the equation. But they did. I don't believe the government is going to do anything bad to anyone significant at Equifax.
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
12. Re: Evening Tech Bits Nov 4, 2017, 17:55 Orogogus
HorrorScope wrote on Nov 4, 2017, 01:51:
Orogogus wrote on Nov 3, 2017, 22:54:
What's a comparable consumer tech that ran with overpriced, underpowered enthusiast models for less than 2 years?
Things like Blu-Ray, TV's.

The PS3 was one of the earliest Blu-Ray players, and that thing lasted 7 years. As far as flatscreen TVs go, the graphic at the top of this page, if accurate, suggests a 2 year cycle more than 1 year to me, if not 3-4 years. In 1 year, sizes went up a little and the prices went down a little. In 3 years, the same amount of money would get you a substantially larger screen.

I'm just not really seeing the 1 year cycle. The iPhone is the whaliest piece of consumer electronics ever with fanbase dedication beyond all reason, and that thing's barely on a 1-2 year cycle. Expecting anything else to match that just doesn't seem reasonable to me.
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
10. Re: Evening Tech Bits Nov 3, 2017, 22:54 Orogogus
HorrorScope wrote on Nov 3, 2017, 21:42:
In regards to a quick 2nd gen... those who buy first gen are the whales/supporters. In CE they've been getting treated like that from the start. They buy first, they buy high. But CE typically comes out quickly with an improved cheaper model. I feel this needs to follow CE standards, which Valve/Facebook haven't, I think it has hurt. There are too many on the fence for V2 and if it were out, they would have grabbed them and kept the market hot. Now it is on simmer, too many waiting. That is a problem. I was holding out for V2 if the prices didn't come down, they came down and they have grabbed several like me, but still big chunk is waiting.

I think only the whaliest of whales would have jumped in Gen 1 if everyone knew Gen 2 would be out within a year, and Gen 3 a year after that. What's a comparable consumer tech that ran with overpriced, underpowered enthusiast models for less than 2 years? EGA was around for 3 years. The AdLib sold for 3 years before the Sound Blaster came on the market.

I feel like until the cost is more like $200, they really have to make sure that the whales (like me) buy into their next gen. I'd certainly have reservations about dropping $800 year after year.

Also, unless VR just gives up on the desktop space and goes mobile/standalone only, I don't see how they can really achieve next gen resolution gains without a corresponding jump in desktop PC power. We got that jump this gen, but there's not really another one on the immediate horizon, is there?
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
20. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 3, 2017, 22:45 Orogogus
I feel like nomination committees and the like, especially ones related to politics, are always dominated by secret closed room meetings and and backstabbing. My college dormmate went to a Young Republicans nomination meeting a few decades and said cheerfully that it was totally full of bullshit. Backroom deals resulting in people getting crossed off the agenda and what have you. That kind of crap just seems to be how politics gets made. The revelation that the DNC rigged its process to favor a pre-selected candidate seems entirely non-revelatory to me. But nothing in the news really convinces me that Sanders would have won the nomination if it weren't being pushed towards Clinton, either.  
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