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News Comments > Master of Orion DLC Next Month
4. Re: Master of Orion DLC Next Month Nov 18, 2016, 18:27 Orogogus
 
Slashman wrote on Nov 18, 2016, 14:29:
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Nov 18, 2016, 14:18:
Is anyone still playing this? It got mediocre reviews when it was released and had a lot of competition in the 4x space.

What competition did it really even have?

The original Sword of the Stars is still pretty much the best space 4x out there. No one else is doing anything like it even now.

Really? I haven't really played anything in this genre since the original MoO, but just from games that seem to have positive word of mouth I think there's Stellaris, Endless Space 1 & 2, GalCiv 3, Star Ruler 1 & 2, and Sins of Solar Empire. Some of those are real-time, but still 4x as far as I know.
 
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News Comments > Star Control: Origins Announced
13. Re: Star Control: Origins Announced Oct 18, 2016, 20:20 Orogogus
 
Without the aliens from SC 1 & 2 in it (especially the Ur-Quan) and without Ford & Reiche, I feel like this might as well be the Star Wars universe except without lightsabers, the Empire, Rebels, the Force, or any of the characters, planets or aliens. Just what do they have, other than the nostalgia ticket?  
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News Comments > Gears of War 4 Specs
32. Re: Gears of War 4 Specs Oct 7, 2016, 19:46 Orogogus
 
My experience was with Forza Horizon 3 through the Windows Store, but I found it didn't want to download stuff correctly until I downloaded and installed the latest Windows updates. Initially it didn't want to install until I installed the Anniversary update, then after the first patch it didn't want to patch up until I applied the cumulative update for Anniversary.

It's not great, but you can try making sure there are no Windows updates sitting in the wings.
 
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News Comments > Space Hulk: Deathwing Arsenal Trailer
17. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 4, 2016, 20:17 Orogogus
 
Slashman wrote on Oct 4, 2016, 08:03:
DrSquick wrote on Oct 3, 2016, 22:49:
Bard wrote on Oct 3, 2016, 22:46:
Saboth wrote on Oct 3, 2016, 20:12:
Game looks great, but I have to wonder if in 2016 they couldn't have come up with a different weapon system from Doom/Duke Nukem/Quake's "Shotgun", "Plasma Gun", "Chainsaw weapon", "Gatling Gun that runs out of ammo way too fast", etc.

Because it's based on the weapons in Warhammer 40K - which predates Doom.

But... It's 20k years in the future right?

Right. They practically use the same boring plasma guns we do today. It's embarrassing.

Seriously though. None of those weapons are exactly what they seem. In fact, those weapons are so advanced, that the Imperium of man has forgotten how to make most of them as well as Space Marine armor itself. Gene Stealers would shrug off standard weapons of today as if they were taking a cool shower.

Those swords and hammers are wrapped in energy/warp fields. The bolters shoot rocket propelled/explosive projectiles and the flamethrowers burn insanely hot versus any conventional accelerant. Then there are those boring everyday plasma weapons...

They have kind of video gamed up the weapons selection, though. As far as I know the normal weapons selection for Terminators is still Storm Bolter/Assault Cannon/Heavy Flamer/Lightning Claws/Thunder Hammer + Storm Shield. Shotguns and plasma cannons aren't usually in their armory.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
171. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 19:49 Orogogus
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 19:18:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 19:09:
Free speech and tolerance are two different things. You brought up free speech. Porn and I said tolerance, which is a liberal byword.

Free speech is the issue at hand. You brought up something irrelevant.

I don't think it's irrelevant, in or out this thread. I think free speech is a non-issue, since as people have pointed out, everything is free speech. There's nothing to argue about there.

But when people throughout the thread have been talking about the hypocrisy of the left, it's been about the tolerance issue. If someone supports an opinion that you don't believe in, are you able to say, that's his right, and move on? Do we want employers to employ litmus tests before hiring to make sure new hires believe the right things and wear the right hats before they're allowed to work there?

Slick and the Infinitely Prolonged can use free speech as a defense, but what's the virtue in going after Oculus? You can argue he's a public face, but I think the thing about "public faces" is that basically anyone can become a public face once the Internet bites down. Yesterday it was Mozilla's CEO. Today's it's a cofounder with extremely vague responsibilities. A few months ago it was some PR employee at Nintendo. Anyone can come under the Internet's scrutiny, which makes them all public faces.

And anyway, that whole argument is kind of saying that you'll use the power of the mob responsibly, only when it's really warranted. Free speech means you have the right to act this way, but it doesn't explain why. The underlying question is, what's good about basing your opinion of a company or its products on the things its employees do? Liberals recognize that as a lousy way to judge a religion or a country, isn't this a similar issue?

Back when this was Luckey's Kickstarter, or before Oculus was bought by Facebook, I could see this as a pragmatic issue. If you donate to his Kickstarter, it might succeed and then he might get rich and donate a tiny percentage of his wealth to Trump. But that ship has sailed.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
164. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 19:09 Orogogus
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 18:11:
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to do the "stop saying the other team is doing it, too!" card.

You said the liberals are holding back free speech. That would imply only the liberals. I pointed out conservatives are doing it, too.

No, I said the liberals are doing it here. Porn-O-Matic, on the other hand, did pin everything on liberals. If you agree liberals are doing it here, then you can argue against Porn separately.

Meanwhile, it's only the conservatives that have made "free speech" a rallying call. Liberals are not doing this. Liberals understand that, if you do something shitty, people will call you shitty. Only conservatives are trying to rally around the freedom to be as shitty as you want without any repercussions, even if those repercussions are just other people using their own free speech.

Free speech and tolerance are two different things. You brought up free speech. Porn and I said tolerance, which is a liberal byword. The right generally makes no claims to tolerance; they talk about tolerance in the same sneering tone they talk about political correctness and social justice. The liberal side, which I subscribe to, is the one that says there's room for Muslims and Hispanics and everyone else in an open forum.

But lets look at how you're using your free speech. Facebook/Oculus, as a company, has done nothing to support Trump. This isn't like Brad Wardell using his company, Stardock, in an agenda-related fashion, or like boycotting Nestle or Wells Fargo because as companies they're basically monsters. This is about shaming and attacking Oculus because they have the temerity to employ someone who donated money to a PAC for the candidate you hate. That's the only way you can think of get at Luckey and his supposed agenda, through the company he works for.

I'm not impressed, and I think this kind of thing is why people think Hillary and Trump are equally bad when they're clearly not. Their loudest followers want nothing better than to be part of a mob to hound people who believe and act differently than they do. It's the same ugly attack-attack-attack, painting the other side as nothing but complete monsters who need to be dealt with using fire and pitchforks. I see a lot more inspirational about the devs donating money to Hillary's campaign, or James Green, Carbon Games VR co-founder, who said, "This backlash is nonsense. I absolutely support him doing whatever he wants politically if it's legal. To take any other position is against American values."
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
159. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 17:18 Orogogus
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 16:44:
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:15:
Also, how can anyone say it's the "liberals" trying to censor when it's the conservatives irate over black athletes kneeling during the pledge of allegiance?

I like how Orogogus completely ignored this point and went straight to "It's the liberals man!"

The fact that the opposition is censoring doesn't mean your team isn't doing it, too, when it mobs up. And it looks worse on the side that claims to be tolerant and inclusive. "Nuh-uh, conservatives!" is a crap argument.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
158. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 17:12 Orogogus
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 16:48:
Sure, it's his right to support whomever he wants, verbally or financially.

Now explain to us why all the people who don't like him supporting a racist group and candidate don't have a right to choose not to support his company, and by extension, Palmer himself, either verbally or financially.

Orogogus wrote:
If you, as an individual, don't want to buy the Rift because of Luckey, that's your right. But thanks to the Internet it's not hard to turn that into a mob demanding that Luckey be removed or else they'll drag Oculus' name into the mud. "Oh well, it's one employee and he can do what he wants with his money, even if hypothetically everyone else at Facebook and Oculus donates way more money to Hillary" is apparently not an option.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
50. Re: Sunday Metaverse Sep 26, 2016, 16:17 Orogogus
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 16:03:
One last thing, what about employers? Is insurance a shared burden between company and employee or is it 100% on the employee?

I had a hard time finding numbers. Under the ACA employers have to pay 50% (to the employee only) to claim a tax credit, but the average is apparently 83% employer coverage for the employee, and 72% for a family.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
155. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 14:33 Orogogus
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 14:21:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 14:14:
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:50:
It's less about what they've actually done and more that Palmer Luckey tried to anonymously raise funds for a pro-Trump PAC.

If you don't care about how racist it is or isn't or what anyone's actually done, then I don't see how this isn't just mobbing up on anyone who supports the candidate you don't like and trying to make them unemployable.

Why would you not care about how racist Trump is? That's the whole point here. He's trying to use his money to raise the money of those much less fortunate than him in order to support a candidate who pushes policies that are counter the interests of a significant chunk of his company's audience.

Not Trump; I'm talking about the PAC, and Luckey. I'm not convinced they're actually Trump supporters, and apparently neither were the Trump supporters on Reddit. I kind of think it was some scam for lulz.

And again, from the point of view of principle, it's Luckey's right to support whoever he wants and do what he wants with his money, within the legal strictures regarding PACs and superPACs. From a pragmatic point of view, do you really think money withheld from Oculus and Facebook would have gone to Clinton or to Trump?
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
153. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 14:14 Orogogus
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:50:
It's less about what they've actually done and more that Palmer Luckey tried to anonymously raise funds for a pro-Trump PAC.

If you don't care about how racist it is or isn't or what anyone's actually done, then I don't see how this isn't just mobbing up on anyone who supports the candidate you don't like and trying to make them unemployable.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
43. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Sep 26, 2016, 14:02 Orogogus
 
Verno wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:23:
nin wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 10:35:
It is when the most they can muster is 10%, with the other two in the 40s. At that point, your vote is worthless. You sacrifice it to make yourself feel better.

Voting doesn't make me feel good, its just something I take seriously. It's never pointless to take the time to select someone whose platform you like based on logic and reason. If its for a third party then so be it, we'll never have a viable third party without some momentum shifting at some point and that takes votes even if it means a bunch of sunk elections along the way. You don't change the status quo by purposely continuing it just because you're worried your vote lacks agency.

Most of the time when I hear that argument it seems to be from people who just want you to lean towards their candidate of choice.

I was going to blather on about the US winner take all system for legislative seats, but it looks like the Christian Science Monitor just did it for me: Link

Realistically, I think a viable third party candidate looks like Trump. In the absence of a massive party's electioneering machine, you want a demagogue that speaks to a large number of people who don't feel like either of the broad coalitions in a two-party system are working for them.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
151. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated] Sep 26, 2016, 13:34 Orogogus
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:15:
Porn-O-Matic wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 13:10:
See, this is why there's no freedom in this country anymore. The constitution provides you with many rights to live how you want and even say what you believe, but your fellow man... society at large... is now the oppressor and censor. The bully, in fact. But, that's what happens when we're lead by liberal fucktards hell bent on bullshit hypocritical policies of so-called "tolerance", although they are completely INtolerant of anyone with views or opinions that differ from their own.

Are you arguing to tolerate intolerance? Again, Trump isn't a normal candidate, and what Luckey did went beyond "supporting" him.

Also, how can anyone say it's the "liberals" trying to censor when it's the conservatives irate over black athletes kneeling during the pledge of allegiance?

Because, frankly, it's the liberals trying to censor here. If you, as an individual, don't want to buy the Rift because of Luckey, that's your right. But thanks to the Internet it's not hard to turn that into a mob demanding that Luckey be removed or else they'll drag Oculus' name into the mud. "Oh well, it's one employee and he can do what he wants with his money, even if hypothetically everyone else at Facebook and Oculus donates way more money to Hillary" is apparently not an option.

I think the ragers have to look a little harder at what Luckey's $10,000 and this Nimble America group has actually done, which is buy a frankly not particularly offensive billboard in Pittsburgh and link to some one or two pieces of racist rhetoric and a few rally videos on their website that has almost nothing else on it. Keep in mind that the Trump supporters thought they were probably being scammed.

When people were up in arms and I saw the term "shitposting", I assumed this was some kind supermob GamerGate kind of thing, but there's basically nothing here. This group is a nonentity.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
41. Re: Sunday Metaverse Sep 26, 2016, 13:11 Orogogus
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 09:16:
Ah thanks So normal health insurance pays the insurance for poor? What about a requirement to actually be insured if ye working a normal job (and hence removing the 2nd issue, namely that only sick people would be insured which creates huge uncovered costs in the system (aside from the already extremely high cost medical system in the US, lacking any oversight and regulations??))??

Is the insurance fee calculated based on income?

The individual mandate portion of the ACA requires everyone to buy insurance or pay a tax penalty if they're not covered by an employer. Low income applicants get a tax credit.

Also, I don't know if it's changed now, but fifteen or twenty years ago insurance companies would look for any reason to exclude anyone who might have a pre-existing condition. EDIT: Now that I look, that's expressly forbidden by the ACA now.

This comment was edited on Sep 26, 2016, 14:33.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
34. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash Sep 24, 2016, 03:52 Orogogus
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 21:09:
I don't particularly care about some guy's dumb political views but funding shitposting is ridiculous behaviour for a public figure (or an adult). Making any political statement is going to annoy plenty of people, who are free to think and, to a point, react as they see fit.

It's petty and self-defeating to stop making software for the Rift. That's also childish.

I finally got around to reading all the articles, and looking at this Nimble America thing and what Luckey's actually done and posted, and I can see why the Trump subreddit thought it was being trolled. As far as I can tell, all this group has done is buy one mostly harmless anti-Clinton billboard, and argue on Reddit about whether or not they're for real. Their website looks it was put together in 20 minutes (although, to be fair, so do the websites for all the other PACs I looked at, for both candidates).

I'm not 100% convinced this group wasn't made just to take in a bunch of money from Trump supporters and then release some lolcat-themed zinger at the end.

Based on what's actually been said and done so far, the indie boycotts do look petty and childish.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
29. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash Sep 24, 2016, 02:28 Orogogus
 
Slick wrote on Sep 24, 2016, 00:24:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 23:12:
Slick wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 21:40:
And speaking of Trump, is there any enlightened mind on here that can point me towards a youtube video that clearly explains to dumb people that trump is a bad idea? In a way that they'll understand?

...

Is there a better way to bridge the retard-gap?

You could try talking down to them and completely dismissing their viewpoints as condescendingly as possible? Often an extremely convincing tactic.

Oh good, my bait worked.

Please elaborate on the viewpoints that I'm dismissing. I mean, I'm pretty up to date on what Trump says and does, but maybe I'm just witnessing an alternate reality.

Besides not really having a platform (shhh, it's secret), all I really think Trump has said when he's not shitting on everything that makes America great, is saying how America is shit, and only he can make it great again.

Can you imagine a democrat running on a platform that "America sucks?" Rush Limbaugh would choke on his fistful of oxycontin. They'd run them out of town, other democrats would purge them from their party. It's usually arch-conservatives like O'Reilly and Coulter that say liberals love to "blame America first". Am I wrong? How does the Republican candidate get away with saying that America is shit?

So please enlighten me, I'm a dumb pleb with no concept of the subtleties of the viewpoints that the Trump campaign is expressing.

I didn't say you're wrong. But no one believes you're interested in actually convincing people you've labeled as dumb people and retards. You just like to argue on the Internet.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
20. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash Sep 23, 2016, 23:12 Orogogus
 
Slick wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 21:40:
And speaking of Trump, is there any enlightened mind on here that can point me towards a youtube video that clearly explains to dumb people that trump is a bad idea? In a way that they'll understand?

...

Is there a better way to bridge the retard-gap?

You could try talking down to them and completely dismissing their viewpoints as condescendingly as possible? Often an extremely convincing tactic.
 
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News Comments > Oculus Facing Political Backlash [Updated]
4. Re: Oculus Facing Political Backlash Sep 23, 2016, 21:05 Orogogus
 
Opinions on either side aren't monolithic. There were both liberals and conservatives who opined that the shitstorms against Brad Wardell at Stardock or Shadow Complex because of Orson Scott Card were pointless. Plenty of people here expressed opinions that the only thing that matters is whether they make good games or whatever. Not everyone is jumping on the anti-Luckey bandwagon here, either.  
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News Comments > New NVIDIA GeForce Drivers
8. Re: New NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Sep 22, 2016, 01:26 Orogogus
 
Creston wrote on Sep 21, 2016, 21:54:
FH3 isn't coming out tomorrow for PCs, is it? I somehow doubt it'll be released for PCs before it hits the Xbone, and on the Xbone it's next Tuesday, or this Friday for the peeps who bought the ultra-edition-whatever package.

The Microsoft store is surprisingly specific:

Standard edition: Link
Release date: 9/26/2016, 9:00:00 PM

Ultimate edition: Link
Release date: 9/22/2016, 9:00:00 PM

So looks like a simultaneous release. But now that you mention it, I seem to remember that this is one of the new cross play titles -- you're basically getting the Xbox and Win10 versions together.
 
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News Comments > More Steam Review System Tweaks
4. Re: More Steam Review System Tweaks Sep 21, 2016, 13:08 Orogogus
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 21, 2016, 12:43:
Valve should give players the ability to rate the gameplay, graphics, audio, value and fun and then create an aggregate score for each. I would much rather have this type of rating system.

You can write all you want about the gameplay, graphics, etc., and you can write whatever score you feel like in the body text. But I think if you really needed that sort of thing you would go to a reviews site instead of looking at Steam reviews. Steam reviews fulfill the same role as Amazon reviews, forcing everyone into a template would drastically cut down on the number of people who write reviews, which kind of defeats the point.
 
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