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News Comments > Are "Let's Play" Streams Legal?
48. Re: Are Jan 29, 2018, 14:37 Beamer
 
Peter M. Smith wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 14:13:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 13:31:
Fair use doesn't apply to people making a living off of content created by other people.

Weird Al would like to have a word with you. Parody, even commercial parody, is covered under the Fair Use Doctrine.

Weird Al parodies. He adds his own lyrics, which often add commentary, but in general are what people are tuning in for.

It doesn't work when not parody:
One action that does not pass muster under any test is using an entire original work in the creation of another. This was the conclusion in a New York district court decision involving Walt Disney productions and an adult film company. Disney sued for copyright infringement when the company used the entire "Mickey Mouse March" during a scene depicting sexual intercourse. The court determined that using an entire work is not fair use. It also said that the use was purely for financial gain and had no artistic value or value as social commentary. Therefore, it could not fall under the parody defense.

Streamers are clearly somewhere between.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
18. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 29, 2018, 13:38 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 13:19:
IMO, TV has been detrimental. Not sure if there are any causative studies out there, but obesity rates correlate strongly to TV watching over the decades. There are also studies that show ADHD rates correlate linearly to TV watching: 1 hour per day = +10% increase chance, 2 hours = +20%, etc.

On that note, humans could do with a bit less screen time, regardless of whether you're using FB, playing games, or watching PBS.

I agree, but would say our trend towards processed foods is what's responsible. Less nutritional value, more sugar. Compound that with the American love of huge portions and our increasingly sedentary lifestyle, as well as the longer hours we tend to be working.
 
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News Comments > Are "Let's Play" Streams Legal?
44. Re: Are Jan 29, 2018, 13:36 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 12:53:
From what I have seen, fundamentally there's an ethical side, a legal side, and a practical side to this debate. Legally seems pretty cut and dry - if the rights holder says it's infringement, then it's infringement. At least until some "let's player" takes the issue to court and precedent to the contrary is established. Ethically I find that as a let's player you basically adhere to the wishes of the creators of the content you are streaming. Devolver Digital is extremely streamer friendly while Nintendo is extremely adversarial to streamers (unless you sign up for their partner program). In general, in my view treat the issue as an ethical one and stream games from those developers who encourage it and avoid streaming games from devs who routinely DMCA streamed content.

As for the practical aspect, consider: Ubisoft paid tons of streamers a lot of money to play For Honor through its beta and early launch and the game sold like hotcakes. As streamers (or their viewers) lost interest, so did the games player base decline in kind. It's pretty easy to correlate high streaming activity of a game to healthy sales and continued sustained player engagement of the game. I don't really think it matters much if it's a multiplayer game like PUBG or Overwatch or a single player narrative driven game. Logic suggests that it should but from what I've seen the numbers don't bare that out. Using Persona 5 as an example, which is an extremely story-driven game, even as Atlus threatened streamers with DMCA's over spoilers and the internet response (not unexpectedly) was to make it a point to stream spoilers all over the place en masse, sales of Persona 5 went through the roof.

Good summary.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
10. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 29, 2018, 11:27 Beamer
 
Nucas wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 11:13:
damn, 21 years and i've still never played a single second of duke nukem 3d.

It's really hard to go back and try now. By default, mouselook is... let's just say bad. It's bad.
 
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News Comments > Are "Let's Play" Streams Legal?
12. Re: Are Jan 29, 2018, 11:26 Beamer
 
SpectralMeat wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 11:14:
Next up:
Gamers can get sued if spouses are watching the gameplay without having a second license for the game. Kids under the age of 5 will have to have half a license.
Dogs and cats do not require a license at this time.

But does anyone charge their spouse to watch? Many of these streamers make lots and lots of money.

I think few game companies will do anything about it. Yes, some are irked that someone is making more money off the games than any of their employees likely are, but most also know it's advertising. Unless there's a class of consumer who watches games without buying them.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
7. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 29, 2018, 11:11 Beamer
 
As for Duke, I remember sitting outside growing up, reading the preview from PCG or CGW, discussing the details such as being able to leave bloody footprints (which sounded, and then was, mindblowing), as well as being able to drop pipe bombs on people below you (less mindblowing, laser tripmines were the fun ones.)

Played the crap out of the shareware. We all did. Only one guy in our group bought the full game, though. Probably had at least 200 hours in the shareware, if not triple that.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
6. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 29, 2018, 11:09 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 11:04:
https://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/locator

"To locate your favorite products, please call us at (800) 471-9278."

Regardless, I'm asking about ubiquitousness. In the NYC area, in the mid-90s, you couldn't walk in somewhere that wasn't selling Snapple. Every single convenience store, cafeteria, pizza shop, grocery store, etc. was loaded with Snapple (and Arizona Ice Tea.) After moving out, I stopped seeing it. Could be that I missed it, could be that it was never big out there. Arizona I definitely saw, but usually just 2 or 3 products, as opposed to the dozen+ about 20 years ago.

So my question isn't "is Snapple available?" but "is it everywhere?" It was part of the general cultural zeitgeist out here, with everyone aware of, and referencing, the ad campaign, people having opinions on best flavors, etc.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
4. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 29, 2018, 10:51 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 10:44:
Beamer wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 10:24:
Is Snapple a thing outside of the NYC area?
Never had an issue finding it in Texas, so i guess it's a thing.

It was founded in Long Island, and is currently based in Texas, so being able to find it in Texas isn't surprising.

The question is whether people in Indiana or Ohio or California see it as ubiquitously.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
2. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 29, 2018, 10:24 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 10:20:
So now your peach tea comes in a disposable pod instead of a glass bottle.

Snapple switched to plastic last year.
Is Snapple a thing outside of the NYC area? They were always big when I was growing up, then I moved away and never once saw a bottle, then moved back and suddenly there they are. Possible I just ignored them, but their distribution seemed tiny outside of this region.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
16. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 29, 2018, 10:02 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 09:49:
Beamer wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 08:35:
Not to mention, there are plenty of studies about the detrimental effects of games. Any time they get mentioned here, they're written off as flawed or quackery. But when it's something the people here dislike, it's just assumed as wholly accurate.

There is a significant difference between shitty 'scientists' bleating "GAMES CAUSE OUR KIDS TO BECOME MURDER MACHINES!" without any kind of evidence, and actual former Vice Presidents of Facebook going "We designed Facebook to hammer the shit out of people's addiction centers, and it's now just an empty echo chamber where people never see anything that disagrees with their personal world vision."

But you love Facebook, so you'll never admit that. You're literally doing the exact same thing you're complaining about, just in reverse.

No, I'm not. I completely agree with what you said about Facebook and its awful News Feed. I've complained about it many times, hell, Facebook recently started giving me their "look back" or whatever feature, and one of the ones over the weekend was me, in 2012, complaining that all I saw were Washington Post articles. That's even worse now.

But that's not what people here are reacting to. Look at the responses, particularly the two prior to me responding. It isn't "man, they should fix that to make it better," it's "PEOPLE, GO OUTSIDE!"

In the 1940s there were studies that concluded TV was detrimental. In the 1980s there were studies that heavy metal was. Hell, around the time of the printing press scientists were claiming reading was detrimental. We know all of that is stupid.

We know Facebook's news feed is not well designed. But people use that to write off all implementations of social media, current and future, and that's idiotic.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
14. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 29, 2018, 08:35 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 08:12:
No one cares what you think of them. There are several studies on this subject that back them up, people are being totally reasonable by saying that in this topic.

I made my comment when opie said "get outside, people." Does that not sound like criticism games have received forever? That it was preventing people from going outside?

Not to mention, there are plenty of studies about the detrimental effects of games. Any time they get mentioned here, they're written off as flawed or quackery. But when it's something the people here dislike, it's just assumed as wholly accurate.

Regardless, I made my comments when the turn of the topic was solely "get outside, people!"
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
12. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 29, 2018, 07:33 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Jan 29, 2018, 07:08:
Beamer wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 16:03:
I'm always surprised when gamers are angry at another form of technology, and claiming it makes people unhappy, antisocial shut-ins.

Have you not learned?

You exist solely to take opposition views on every subject.

No, but the extremism on this site can be dumb. Every damn topic is "THAT THING I DON'T LIKE AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IS STUPID AND ALL ITS USERS ARE DUMB!" Rather than taking any kind of nuanced view, every topic is either CJ or people acting like him.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
7. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 28, 2018, 20:38 Beamer
 
Eirikrautha wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 19:51:
Beamer wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 16:03:
I'm always surprised when gamers are angry at another form of technology, and claiming it makes people unhappy, antisocial shut-ins.

Have you not learned?

Well, when a longitudinal study of 1.1 million teens says otherwise, I am willing to change my opinion.

Link to reports of study

But then again, I'm not a science-denier...

Do humans cause Climate Change?

Do video games reinforce sexism?
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
3. Re: Sunday Metaverse Jan 28, 2018, 16:03 Beamer
 
I'm always surprised when gamers are angry at another form of technology, and claiming it makes people unhappy, antisocial shut-ins.

Have you not learned?
 
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News Comments > Paragon Closing in April; Refunds Offered
3. Re: Paragon Closing in April; Refunds Offered Jan 26, 2018, 19:39 Beamer
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 19:25:
What the hell? Did this game even get an actual release?

I feel sorry for their art team, the graphics were pretty amazing. Oh well, it won't make a billion dollars, might as well flush it down the toilet.


From the sound of it, the issue is that there's no community. Why keep something alive if people can't find matches to play?

I mean, they're giving a full refund to everyone after well over a year of being live. It's hard to complain about that, but...
 
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News Comments > Gatherings & Competitions
2. Re: etc. Jan 26, 2018, 14:19 Beamer
 
Seemed pretty harmless and accidental, but I guess $1,000 isn't that much in the long run. Maybe it'll deter others. Or maybe there should have been a delay on the feed?  
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
14. Re: Morning Mobilization Jan 26, 2018, 13:57 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 13:36:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 11:21:
Think about how much of your life you waste in traffic.
Actually, because I chose to not live in a overly large city, very little...

Actually, because I chose to live in America's largest city, none.
I walk to work. I live next to the most reliable subway lines, and don't need to take them often, as 95% of where I go is within walking distance.

Man, it's going to be a rough transition when I leave this place. Walking to work is the best thing ever.
 
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News Comments > Overwatch Social Media Bans
7. Re: Overwatch Social Media Bans Jan 26, 2018, 12:15 Beamer
 
ExGemini wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 11:53:
Cutter wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 10:59:
So people are no longer entitled to their opinions about the products they paid for? gg corporatocracy.


Opinion yes, being a piece of shit and insulting 360° is not opinion, is just being a toxic twat.

Have you ever notice that yes, behind a monitor one can talk smack all he wants, but if he was to do that in real life, he would get a punch in the teeth?

It sounded more to me like seeing people being assholes in a match that someone then posted to YouTube, and they ban that account even if not reported, no? Rather than people being assholes in comments sections of YouTube.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
9. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 26, 2018, 09:53 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 09:45:
Yeah, I fail to see why I'm supposed to get upset about idiot teenagers choosing to poison themselves. Who cares? One less moron on the planet.

Same with all these imbeciles who set themselves on fire and film it. Burn, idiots, burn.

Gen Z is downing Tide Pods.
Millenials butt chugged vodka.
Boomers played chicken.

What did Gen X do? Drugs and suicide?
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
33. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 26, 2018, 09:37 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Jan 26, 2018, 09:26:
ventry wrote on Jan 25, 2018, 21:12:
Since Trump’s Election
DOW Up 32%+
Markets Increased $8 TRILLION
Economic Growth TOPS 3% 2 QTRs
Consumer Confidence 17 YR HIGH
Unemployment Rate 17 YR LOW
Jobless Benefits 45 YR LOW
Food Stamps 8 YR LOW

Anecdotally, I think the tax package is being very well received by businesses. I haven't seen this much enthusiasm in my industry in a very long time. There are a lot of companies opening up and larger companies coming back, making significant capital asset investments in the process. For all of the doom and gloom on CNN/Fox about social issues, at least it seems like the economy is running fairly well.

It's given corporations a nice way to try to raise morale after wages had stagnated. Wages are STILL stagnated, but when Walmart tried to change that in 2015 their stock tanked, as Wall Street was furious. This is a way to help employees angry at wage stagnation without angering Wall Street.
 
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