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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
59. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 14:46 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 14:23:
Beamer wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 13:48:

Yup, Australia and the UK, those Marxist nations.

You realize you're completely out of step with reality, right? You probably think Pizzagate was real.

Have you read Marx?

Regardless, repeating pattern: not an argument.

Ad hominem fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. Pointing out fallacies isn't an argument. You also seem to think I'm trying to debate you, and convince you of something, or "win." I'm doing none of those. You're a true believer, and true believers don't change, or respond to strong, well laid argument.
I've studied Marx, not read him. I'm reading you. To ad hom, you seem the type to expressly believe things that are fringe, which is also odd, as you believe in Jesus, which is not at all fringe. Basically, you seem fairly malleable.
 
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56. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 13:49 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:53:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:48:
1) Yes, guns IN THE HANDS OF SOLDIERS (you seem to respond to caps) protect us from fascist regimes.

The fact he thinks he is at risk of a fascist regime change speaks more to his lack of sanity (no doubt caused by Rush and whatshisface, that insane manic frogfucking guy). These people can't be reasoned with no matter how hard one tries, and for some reason we keep trying.

If Trump being elected didn't cause the rational and better part of our nation not to spark a violent regime change, nothing will. You know why it didn't? Do you know why the rational and better part of our country lets that giant orange fuckup continually diminish the US? Because of respect for constitutional democracy. Because I'm not some insane moron cowering with a horde of firearms expecting "the gubment" to come take my life and liberty away.

Is your argument "you can trust state power"?

Given the history of man, how can you make that claim?

Are you aware that conspiracy moves history?

Reichstag, burning of Rome, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, "yellow cake", as examples *most* people are aware of.

Democrat-Redditors seem incapable of having a discussion about reality without ad hominem fallacy.

"I'm not going to address your argument, it's wrong because you're dumb"

Mind blowing! Very creepy about what this portends.

If someone tells you that you're dumb, they may have a problem. If everyone tells you you're dumb, at some point you should wonder if it's less a them problem and more a you problem.
 
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55. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 13:48 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:38:
Saboth wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:37:
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:35:
Fear anyone who wants to repeal the right to defend yourself.

They are the agents of the coming genocide.

A pattern well established in the 1900s.

Have there been many genocides in other first world nations since they banned guns? How do these people defend themselves?

The pattern initiates with economic / social collapse; we're on the verge.

What happened in the Marx-influenced nations will happen here within ~30 years.

(deducing from the data-set, no set "rules", just patterns)

The "state power as the solution" crowd currently represented by the Democrat-Redditor worldview is gaining traction.

The new Leninists.

The Pattern

Yup, Australia and the UK, those Marxist nations.

You realize you're completely out of step with reality, right? You probably think Pizzagate was real.
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
48. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 12:24 Beamer
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 12:07:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 09:30:
I think it was some time recent when someone drove his truck into a crowd of people.

I CAN'T DRIVE A GLOCK 9 TO WORK, CAN I?

YOU SEE, ONE SERVES A UTILITARIAN PURPOSE TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS EVERY DAY.

ONE SERVES NO PURPOSE EXCEPT TO EASILY KILL THINGS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND? DO YOU HAVE ANY BRAIN POWER AT ALL? DOES CAPS HELP?
Why all caps? You ticking out like Beamer now?
Guns have a use too. They defend you from fascist regimes, exactly like your constitution states. They defend your family in a crime riddled country (the worst parts of it are under democrat rule). They are also sports items. I can kill with my car, I can drive with it to work, I can do sports with it.

With a reply like that youre making very obvious that you cant understand anything but your own side, which of course is always superior. I also named you facts you can check for yourself, but you didnt even talk scream about them.

Honestly, the more I read excuses like yours, the more I am starting to think that you guys are actually planning this, and you are the very fascists the founding fathers warned about. Its not that people like that would announce themselves with "HERE WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO ESTABLISH A FASCIST STATE!". Still, in a way they do, and thats easily recognizable through their hypocrisy. Hell, even the Nazis thought they were the good guys. Hmmm...

1) Yes, guns IN THE HANDS OF SOLDIERS (you seem to respond to caps) protect us from fascist regimes. In the hands of people like you? I'll wait till point 2, but just remember, even your local police station likely has an APC and an armory full of automatic rifles. If the government were to come for you tomorrow with their tanks, their jet fighters, and their nukes, what the fuck will your AR-15 do?

2) The odds of a gun protecting you from a criminal is infinitely smaller than it killing you by mistake. People in houses with guns in them have a 3x increased chance of dying via homicide by gun, and a 5x chance of dying via gun in any way. So yeah, you think you're protecting yourself, but you're just putting yourself at risk.

You already stated that you think about doing damage to yourself. That damage can be much worse with a gun in the house.


Again, you're going off on the founding fathers (think about what a gun was back then), and then about the Nazis thinking they were good, when you can't even recognize that you're an irrational, violent person. Once again, and I quoted it below, you said the only thing preventing you from doing damage is calling people "fags" online. Does that sound like a good person to you?

You seriously need to speak to people for help. This isn't goading you, or baiting you. Reread what you said and reflect honestly about how well balanced it seems.

 
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
3. Re: Morning Interviews Feb 22, 2018, 11:44 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 11:39:
Never played Hellgate... I'd like to try it now to see what the lack of fuss was about.

You may be in luck! But probably not.

 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
44. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 11:38 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 11:22:
Beamer wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 11:11:
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 11:09:
Democrats argument that "nothing influences a child" is comical at best.

Explains their worldview and it's outcome though.

Who argues that nothing influences a child?

Democrats (the redditor-progressive-socialist form at least)

Drugs, sex, violence - all are acceptable at any age, because the state will make up for the detriment of a population inundated by their negative consequences.

Multiple posts in this thread arguing that inundation with graphic violence at a young age has "no effect" on the outcome of the mind being indoctrinated by them.

Hence: "take the rights of adults to own guns away rather than address the fundamental proposition young minds are being raised by", and if you address the philosophical instruction provided by violent media's effect "you're dumb" becomes the argument.

Comedy.

This is why left-leaning nation-states eventually devolve into genocide, because the state identifies the problem as external to the mind, and targets the "enemy" (Jews, Capitalists, etc)

It's worth reading Karl Marx' "On the Jewish Question", it's illuminating; the subtext provides an understanding of the directionality of the Democrat-left-socialist operating in the US and running the media-conglomerates.

Oh, right, you're the guy that thinks Jesus cures everything.

And we're done. Conspiracy theorist, anti-semite, and jesus freak all wrapped into one.
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
42. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 11:11 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 11:09:
Democrats argument that "nothing influences a child" is comical at best.

Explains their worldview and it's outcome though.

Who argues that nothing influences a child?
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
39. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 09:52 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 09:30:
I think it was some time recent when someone drove his truck into a crowd of people.

I CAN'T DRIVE A GLOCK 9 TO WORK, CAN I?

YOU SEE, ONE SERVES A UTILITARIAN PURPOSE TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS EVERY DAY.

ONE SERVES NO PURPOSE EXCEPT TO EASILY KILL THINGS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND? DO YOU HAVE ANY BRAIN POWER AT ALL? DOES CAPS HELP?

No, but I could drive an M1 Abrams to work. Let's start selling those to civilians!
Also, it's fun to read your post in Farnesworth's voice.
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
36. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 09:17 Beamer
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 08:36:
I didnt even read far into your shit again to notice youre only on about to attack me personally by putting words into my mouth again and interpreting something into a text that fits your disgusting agenda. Only because I owned you hard once and exposed you as the hypocrite you are.

The rest you wasted your time on, because I dont waste my time with trolls like you.

No putting words in your mouth. You said it.

If someone came up to you and said "listen, things are dark for me. The only thing stopping me from damaging myself, or those around me, is spending time online calling 14 year olds 'fags' for simply competing against me in a game," you'd probably say "wow, that's not healthy. You should talk to someone. I'm concerned for your safety."

You said those words. Reread the quote - you actually said those words.

Yet, rather than realize that what you're doing isn't healthy and isn't stable, you're constantly trying to tell others that your views and observations about society are correct and accurate. It's important for others to know where it's coming from.

That your opinions are coming from a guy who has said that he "vents" [in this case, by calling 14 year olds fags online] to "orevent doing damage to myself."
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
35. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 09:14 Beamer
 
Drath71 wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 09:11:
Sure, if you show me a person performing a mass shooting, and they take personal responsibility. It's about PERSONAL responsibility. The people I personally know who have guns don't go around shooting other people and never have!!

Are all of the people against drug laws personally responsible for the massive death count from drug abuse? According to libs, I guess so!!!

Tally up those numbers if you are truly concerned about lives.

Wait, so where are the "libs" not taking personal responsibility?
You realize both sides are pointing fingers, no?

Seems no, you don't.
Not to mention the "what aboutism" going on. How about the people responsible for car deaths. Do we blame them for not wanting to ban cars? Or maybe there's something different between a child going to school and being shot by another child, and a person choosing to inject heroin in their own arm and dying from it?
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
31. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 08:28 Beamer
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 07:25:
StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 19:40:
As a sociology teacher I have to admit media has an effect on kids, but this isn't how you counter that. Instead it has to be parents, or sadly school systems when parents don't give a crap, who teach the children how to handle violent images and the difference between life and fantasy. 90% of parents would buy their kid Grand Theft Auto 5 without thinking twice, and that's a bigger deal than anything else on this subject.

It only has an effect on kids who have huge problems in life (because of parents most likely). Some slip away even more through games like these, some actually recover by playing them, because they can vent frustration on games like these.
I remember very well as a child I would play Persian Gulf Inferno and later Doom (both actually banned here) when I was frustrated, and I havent turned into a violent sociopath. Quite the opposite actually.

On the other hand, taking away guns from people doesnt do much either. Its just opportunist and populist ramblings from both sides, who think they can score with the stupid portion of the voters. That also shows how they judge their voters.

You think that it only has an effect on kids, and only ones with huge problems in life, because? Can you show us studies, or is this a case of you thinking something and therefore it's true? Do you have the self-awareness to even know how susceptible you are to media?

And the answer to that last question is a clear "no." If you were at all self-aware, you wouldn't say you aren't a violent sociopath. Remember, you said that the only thing stopping you from violence is calling people "fags" anonymously in voice chat of games. That's what you said. You actually said it:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Oct 17, 2017, 10:01:

You just proved exactly what I was talking about. You cause problems where there are none.
Also when I vent I prevent damage to myself. Not everyone can swallow and swallow and swallow without ever letting it out. Thats simple psychology, which I actually get explained every day by [b]my[/b] girlfriend.
Some people let it out into the face of others. So what? I can deal with an angry gamer going ballistic over BS. Who cant? Only people who are very insecure, which is a problem in their whole life and they should get professional help to get it fixed or they will have far more serious problems outside of games.

How in the world is that not the words of a violent sociopath? The only thing that stops you from committing physical damage is committing mental damage. By. Your. Own. Words.
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
30. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 08:23 Beamer
 
Drath71 wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 07:04:
Notice my post wasn't "gosh, what jerk made this up?" I already knew that, but you'd have to have a grade school level of reading comprehension to get what I was saying. But here, let me help you out:

I'll sum up the first two options, and add the third for your sake of clarity.

1. Taking personal responsibility instead of blaming others. Bad.
2. Taking taxes from folks for stuff I demand it be spent on. Good.
3. Something was submitted by a republican. Bad.

Does that help?

Since you blame "the libs," can you show me "the conservs" taking personal responsibility for the mass shootings?
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
22. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 06:59 Beamer
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 02:47:
Cutter wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 20:59:
If that were true, violent media affecting kids, explain why we all didn't grow up to be mass-murders watching violent cartoons and TV shows. Spending my formative years in front of the boob tube watching Bugs Bunny dropping anvils on peoples heads never game me the impulse to do it. Nor did I ever fail to understand the difference between fact and fantasy. Somehow the overwhelming majority of people out there have watched violent media their whole lives without turning into mass-murders.

The answer is that you're way exaggerating what I said. It has an impact, which varies depending on the individual and the situation. That's a big reason why it should be handled by parents and teachers on a case by case basis, rather than stupid laws like these.

They definitely contribute to the current culture of guns=masculinity that's helping drive all these mass shootings. But they're not a primary factor, by any means.

You're entirely correct, though, that people like Cutter can't understand how something enforces a norm, versus something creates specific behavior itself. Just talk to most gamers about the impact of the treatment of women in games and watch them foam at the mouth to point out that video games don't turn gamers misogynist (which no one has claimed.) Of course, someone like Cutter will rabidly make that claim, but Cutter also can't make a post about women here without drifting into angry misogyny, so...
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
21. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 22, 2018, 06:56 Beamer
 
Drath71 wrote on Feb 22, 2018, 06:54:
Wow, what a dilemma for libs. On one hand, it blames violent video games for contributing to violent behavior, and we all know how crazy the idea of personal responsibility is nowadays.

On the other hand...it takes more money from citizens, to fund stuff. YAY!


"For libs."
Do you not see the "R" next to the representatives name? Of course you don't. You registered here just to make this post, which is nonsensical and has nothing to do with anything at all, and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of politics and the world.

I'd say Russian Bot, but they're better than this, even.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
35. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 23:11 Beamer
 
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Beamer wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 16:14:
Taxing businesses insane amounts doesn't work. It just gives them incentive to avoid the US. The HQ may still be here, but it creates incentive to hold money overseas and create new jobs overseas that could be done here.

This problem is going to be worldwide. There won't be anywhere to run. You need to get money into the hands of people who will spend it to generate economic activity. Massive income inequality is the domain of banana republics and failed third world nations.

And the Asian economies that have risen since the cold War. Old hat to them. Same in the middle east. This is where all the luxury goods these days go, too. All the Bugattis and LVMH products.
 
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News Comments > R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax
9. Re: R.I. Proposes Violent Game Tax Feb 21, 2018, 22:03 Beamer
 
There are actually toys being made for young kids for Jurassic World 2. And hell, as kids we had robocop and toxic avenger toys.

It isn't media that's leading this, and while it could be a factor to a culture of guns, so was every teen book in the 40s...
 
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29. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 21:00 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 19:30:
Beamer wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 19:07:
I think the best comment I've seen lately is that of course our colleges are full of kids trying to be activists. We've raised this crop on Young Adult Fiction based around dystopian nightmare societies and kids being the ones to break the bonds. Harry Potter wasn't dystopian, but was a society on the brink of becoming it. Hunger Games, whatever other stupid movies I've not seen but were everywhere, etc. Even Red Rising, the series I mentioned below, begins that way. Dystopian society, blind and greedy adults who burnt everything down and are happy letting everyone else rot, and kids being the ones to make things right.

Just reminded of it from your comments about it becoming all-out murder. Like most books about how dystopian societies begin.

We need some Final Fantasy teenagers, preferably with big swords!

Yeah, it all seemed so inconceivable even ten years ago, but now? I've long since given up hope. I just console myself with the, admittedly super-selfish, thought that I don't have kids and probably only have 20-30 years or so left. I won't see the worst of it.

My brother and sister in law, ten and fifteen years younger than me, with kids as little as two years old? Yeah, they're going to have a rough time. They always look at me funny too when I say that I hope it won't get too bad for them, as if they just have no idea what I could possibly be referring to.

Yeah. My sister can't understand why I job switch so frequently. I'll take a new job and be on the phone with a recruiter the next day. I take jobs I love, but will keep contacts with recruiters in case something crazy happens, or just so I know there's a next step. Switching jobs gives raises infinitely more quickly. But I'm running, right? There's a line that keeps moving out, and you're either in front of it or behind it, and it gets harder and harder to stay in front of. Plus, I'm in my late 30s now. I have, what, 12-15 more years before someone decides I'm too old and make too much and I end up a greeter at Walmart? Better make as much, then save as much, as you can (I'm failing at the last part.)

She gets annoyed when I discuss politics with her, too, because I'm far more liberal and far more willing to raise taxes or take care of the poor. My girlfriend and I make about 5x what she and her husband make. But she has a house, we rent. And she'll eventually inherit somewhere between $3M and $10M thanks to the sacrifices her father in law made over the years. I expect no inheritance from my parents, just hoping they live their remaining years in happiness rather than feeling they need to save to pass on.
I'm more comfortable than her now, but terrified of my later years. She's struggling now, but in the later years will be far ahead of what I'm running from.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
27. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 19:07 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 19:02:
Beamer wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 18:56:
Thing is, the CEO will likely already have moved on - that's someone else's problem. His job was to drive results while he was there, and he did. Let the next guy worry about it. He can't worry, he'll lose his job if he does!

Yep, and there's the entire crux of the matter. Sometimes I think that rich people all look at that movie Elysium and all sigh with longing. "If only..."

I genuinely wonder if this is just going to lead to all-out murder at some point. How much longer are the rich just going to say "Fuck you, I got mine." before the poor just start killing them? There's guns aplenty. That's going to be a fucking scary time at that point.

It all comes down to them, true, but it's all just a cycle of everyone making mistakes, and those mistakes compounding. Any chance we'd have of actually breaking those mistakes ends with the top 0.1% lobbying against stuff (and there's where I think it is not a cycle and just assholes being assholes without realizing what monstrous assholes they are.)

Oh, I think they know. They just don't give a fuck. THEY won't suffer when everything is automated.

I was discussing and didn't think Creston found it antagonizing,

Not at all.

I think the best comment I've seen lately is that of course our colleges are full of kids trying to be activists. We've raised this crop on Young Adult Fiction based around dystopian nightmare societies and kids being the ones to break the bonds. Harry Potter wasn't dystopian, but was a society on the brink of becoming it. Hunger Games, whatever other stupid movies I've not seen but were everywhere, etc. Even Red Rising, the series I mentioned below, begins that way. Dystopian society, blind and greedy adults who burnt everything down and are happy letting everyone else rot, and kids being the ones to make things right.

Just reminded of it from your comments about it becoming all-out murder. Like most books about how dystopian societies begin.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
25. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 18:56 Beamer
 
I know I've blamed the consumer some here. I don't mean to do that exclusively. As you mentioned, in 2 years (more like 5-10, ha!), McDonald's will realize no one is left to eat their food. Thing is, the CEO will likely already have moved on - that's someone else's problem. His job was to drive results while he was there, and he did. Let the next guy worry about it. He can't worry, he'll lose his job if he does!

It all comes down to them, true, but it's all just a cycle of everyone making mistakes, and those mistakes compounding. Any chance we'd have of actually breaking those mistakes ends with the top 0.1% lobbying against stuff (and there's where I think it is not a cycle and just assholes being assholes without realizing what monstrous assholes they are.)

Also, a red REMOVED of shame! I knew I shouldn't have quoted. For the record, all I did was say I wasn't trolling, I was discussing and didn't think Creston found it antagonizing, and his desire to see me dead was classy. Apologies, Blue. I knew better.
 
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