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News Comments > Out of the Blue
33. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 18, 2017, 23:32 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 23:09:
* sigh *

You knew it was coming.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
30. Re: Re: Out of the Blue Sep 18, 2017, 22:30 Beamer
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 21:55:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 20:06:
Dead Sea Scrolls, Greek Septuagint, Hebrew manuscripts, Aleppo Codex
All written by stupid humans. sigh

You are correct. "Stupid humans," wrote the bible, but they did not author it. Jehovah God did. The Bible has no equal in all human history. God inspired the original scriptures, but they were physically written by 40 secretaries or scribes (the "stupid people") over the course of 1,610 years.

The Bible, itself, had scholars and skilled copyists like Ezra who wrote the books of Ezra and both Chronicles (Side note: the original scrolls chronicling the lineage of kings -- also called "The Book of The Kings" during those days -- had been lost or destroyed during Babylon's destruction of Jerusalem in 607 BCE.)

Many of these "stupid" scribes acknowledged God to be the author.

MOSES - (Exodus 24:4) "Moses wrote down all the words of Jehovah."
SAMUEL - (2 Samuel 23:2) The spirit of Jehovah spoke through me; His word was on my tongue.
PAUL - (2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God
PETER - (2 Peter 1:21) For prophecy was at no time brought by manís will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit.
DANIEL - (Daniel 7:1) "Daniel saw a dream and visions of his head as he lay on his bed. Then he wrote down the dream; he recorded a complete account of the matters."

Humans are at liberty and their stupid biases to translate the scriptures incorrectly, but no matter how they do it the core scriptures remain intact. The reason? "the word of our God endures forever." (Isaiah 40:8) Jehovah has taken it upon himself to preserve the Biblical canon throughout human history despite repeated attempts to rid humanity of it (e.g., Dark Ages).

The point of my reply is this: the translations that remain as close as possible to the source also remain the most accurate translations of God's Words.

I mean, Jehovah told me to write this, but I think you're not going to take my word for it...
 
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
8. Re: Morning Safety Dance Sep 18, 2017, 16:54 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 13:36:
Dammit, if you can't trust CCleaner, who can you trust?

Me. Send me your SSN, mother's maiden name, 10 year address history, and all your CC numbers and I will keep your computer virus free!
 
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News Comments > Two Steam Concurrent User Records Broken
12. Re: Two Steam Concurrent User Records Broken Sep 18, 2017, 12:09 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 04:43:
loomy wrote on Sep 17, 2017, 23:59:
I definitely think pubg is a chia pet. I didn't understand pokemon or the nintendo wii motion controls either, so there are a lot of stupid things I don't get. in this case it's running around searching houses

Chia pet implies it will be gone in a few months. And Cutter is undermining his own argument by using the phrase "flavor of the moment" then bringing up Minecraft which is still going strong six years on despite countless higher fidelity imitators. If anything has had staying power since 2010, it has been Minecraft. Hell, it even has it's own Telltale series.

I think PUBG has a really good chance of sticking around for a while, just like CS. There are a lot of similarities: short rounds, permadeath to give it stakes, skill based, collectibles, an end game, etc.

C'mon, Minecraft is just a flavor of the month, like Star Wars, jeans, cellphones, and Spider-Man. Sooner or later everyone forgets and moves on.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
6. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 18, 2017, 12:04 Beamer
 
Loose Cannon wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 11:53:
Cutter wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 11:11:
Well of course they couldn't beat lefist feminist agenda show, The Handmaid's Tale. God forbid a show ever win on its own merits instead of current politics. This is why all these awards shows are utterly useless.

Perhaps you didn't know that the Handmaid's Tale is based on a book by the same name, published in 1985. Would you consider 1985 "current politics" for the "leftist feminist agenda"? Have you watched the show in order to judge it by its own merits?

I've watched a few episodes of Handmaid's Tale, all of Stranger Things, and all of Westworld. For me, hand's down, Stranger Things was the best of those.

Of course he hasn't watched it, and he'd hate it, anyway, as it deals with a POV that isn't exactly his own.

I loved Stranger Things, and found it entertaining, but not necessarily "great," if that makes sense. Westworld more prestige and better made, but less fun. Since that's what's being mentioned here - I didn't watch and don't feel like googling what was nominated.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
11. Re: etc. Sep 18, 2017, 12:02 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 11:56:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2017, 05:00:

1. Our election may have been tilted toward one candidate by our arch enemy, and we should just drop it?

This is a pipe dream. Hillary lost because she ran a shitty campaign and was totally out of touch with voters. There is a mountain written about her shoddy campaign already. I'm sure its more comfortable for her supporters to blame Russia but she was unelectable entirely through her own doing. The whole "popular vote" crap is a misnomer, she didn't seem to mind playing the delegate math game with Bernie when it was convenient to her.
Other foreign powers try to influence our democratic processes all the time and we do it to them too. That's a far cry from winning Trump the election or something.

Hillary had the backing of the establishment, the media, Hollywood and there was a full court press against Trump by all of the above save for Fox/Breitbart. Trump even handed her multiple scandals on a platter. She still managed to lose. One day people are just going to have to accept it.

Should the investigation play out? Sure. Is it going to change anything or explain why she lost? No.

Can't what you say be true (and it absolutely is), and yet Russia still paid for pro-Trump ads and therefore there should be repercussions?

Why not both?
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
49. Re: Op Ed Sep 17, 2017, 15:23 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Sep 17, 2017, 02:04:
Beamer wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 17:13:
I like how people who don't know who he is have opinions.

"I don't know who this Ronald McDonald guy is, but a casual Google says he's a clown. If a clown says a bad word why care?"

With all your expertise, it seems to me that you're treating teenagers as if they were watching Sesame Street and Dora the Explorer, and applying the same accusations of indecent, immoral material corrupting the youth that have been thrown against D&D, drugs, and dozens of musical genres and TV shows. Playing the "won't someone please think of the children" card seems likely to make any problem worse in the teenage demographic as they push back against olds trying to teach them to look up to proper role models like Captain Kangaroo. Do you think there would be fewer drugs in play if there had been a more concerted effort to demonize and hound Cheech & Chong, their venues and their sponsors, for the sake of the children?

It seems to me that it would be more productive to have adult conversations about casual racism and then hope that those values carry through. Are social mores like these are transmitted vertically from parents and older authority figures, or is it a generational thing and everything was better in your day and it's today's youths that suck?

I'm clearly exaggerating to make a point, but the bigger picture is that his money comes from corporations, and this isn't how they want to be portrayed.

And, to your point, once Hollywood stopped having their protagonists smoke, smoking amongst teens declined. Hmm. Funny that. Almost as if they're the most impressionable group...
 
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News Comments > Saturday Metaverse
12. Re: Saturday Metaverse Sep 16, 2017, 18:48 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 17:30:
Beamer wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 17:08:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 13:08:
Dear ad companies,

You guys screwed the pooch. You did shit like create auto play videos and sound, cause ads to auto redirect, and allowed malware to be served as ads. You did these things because you could, without considering whether you should. Now you are reaping what you have sown.

I block ads on my phone for two reasons. First, they double my usage when I allow them, and I don't have unlimited data. Second, they slow my phone down as they load or as they play. It often makes the sites I am accessing unusable.

So please go jump off a cliff,
Thanks.

Traditional advertising is dead. No one reads print, and no one watches TV commercials.

Internet display is dead. Ad blocked. But autoplay videos aren't their fault. That was media companies, not ads. I guess ads a fraction of the time, but far more places like ESPN.

But advertising will never die. Now they either find a way to not suck, which some have, or they declare war and move towards paid promotion, where movie and TV characters are always holding a coke with the label just right, which is the worst way to go.

I'll never take a brand I work with that way.
The internet ad companies both allowed and enabled fmv, as well as auto-redirect, either explicitly or negligently. Back when ads were just banner ads no one thought twice. Few complained and ad blockers didn't exist. The ad companies have been arrogant, and assumed they could do as they wished with a captive audience. They took it way too far.

Thus the backlash.

I don't entirely agree. The backlash was always there - it was there for banner ads, then for animated banner ads, and especially for cookies. People endlessly complained then, too.

I'd also say the autoplay sound video ads were there for ads, but almost exclusively unscrupulous no-name companies like malware or subprime mortgages. And those got nixed quickly, with autoplay now primarily news sites autoplaying the stupid video going with their article.

Predominantly, the ad companies doing what you're discussing were small shops working with other small shops. But it doesn't matter. Ads are still too pervasive. Go to Walmart.com and count how many ads are on the page. Ads that, in many cases, take you off Walmart.com. Same with Target.

In general, internet ads are easy to ignore, and idiot companies trying hard to make them impossible to ignore made people turn to technology. TV ads are easy to ignore - people either use Netflix, use DVR to skip ads, play on their phone during ads, or just don't watch TV. Print is dead. But advertising can't die. We get so much for free, and it needs some revenue.

My career, to date, has been predominantly building eCommerce revenue at large brands and retailers. But in the last six months, I've somewhat shifted to how to build brand awareness online, and how to launch products and build trial, conversion, and revenue. People are shocked when I tell them everything they've been doing is dead. Regular display is dead. Twitter is dead. Companies need to be creative and offer something. They can't treat consumers like the enemy.

It's fun for me because I'm probably one of the least impressionable people for traditional ads, at least for my age. They don't reach me, even when they're there I ignore them. I get annoyed when they're in the feed of whatever app I'm in. I'm guessing everyone here is exactly the same way. But we still do find out about new products, and we still do watch ads. I mean, some here discuss spending lots of time watching Let's Play videos, which are really just ads. Informative ones, but the people making them are very often compensated, even if just a free game. And then the video is monetized. But the company making the game is encouraging all of this to increase sales. They're complex, complicated ads.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
45. Re: Op Ed Sep 16, 2017, 17:13 Beamer
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 15:43:
Redmask wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 13:45:
I have no idea who this person is but a casual Google search reveals that hes some moron on Youtube, not the Pope. He can say whatever he wants and his audience is free to fuck off if they're so angry about it.
And looking further into this he already apologized but I guess its not good enough, he needs to totally commit himself to eradicating racism across the planet or give his money away. What about the children!!! Careful lefties, you're going to pull something reaching that far.

Is there anything in between a half-assed apology designed only to avoid consequences, and totally committing oneself to eradicating racism or giving away one's money?

I like how people who don't know who he is have opinions.

"I don't know who this Ronald McDonald guy is, but a casual Google says he's a clown. If a clown says a bad word why care?"
 
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News Comments > Saturday Metaverse
10. Re: Saturday Metaverse Sep 16, 2017, 17:08 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 16, 2017, 13:08:
Dear ad companies,

You guys screwed the pooch. You did shit like create auto play videos and sound, cause ads to auto redirect, and allowed malware to be served as ads. You did these things because you could, without considering whether you should. Now you are reaping what you have sown.

I block ads on my phone for two reasons. First, they double my usage when I allow them, and I don't have unlimited data. Second, they slow my phone down as they load or as they play. It often makes the sites I am accessing unusable.

So please go jump off a cliff,
Thanks.

Traditional advertising is dead. No one reads print, and no one watches TV commercials.

Internet display is dead. Ad blocked. But autoplay videos aren't their fault. That was media companies, not ads. I guess ads a fraction of the time, but far more places like ESPN.

But advertising will never die. Now they either find a way to not suck, which some have, or they declare war and move towards paid promotion, where movie and TV characters are always holding a coke with the label just right, which is the worst way to go.

I'll never take a brand I work with that way.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
5. Re: Evening Metaverse Sep 15, 2017, 23:41 Beamer
 
Where else is there to go? And this comes at the request of the advertisers, who don't want to pay for certain content.  
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
24. Re: Morning Interviews Sep 15, 2017, 19:40 Beamer
 
PacoTaco wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 17:26:
CliffyB has treated many people poorly for decades and made a lot of money despite his shortcomings as a designer, worker, alcoholic, and leader of men. I have no pity for him or the people who follow him.


Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:45:
PacoTaco wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:44:
So they followed him to a situation where they got to work on failed project? Are about to get laid off and beg for the jobs at Epic they will never get back? Hmm. Genius.

I will give you a positive spin on it Nexon bought for it to be used outside the western market. Maybe it is doing better there.

As for the US market it had no chance against Blizzard / OverWatch.

Ended up being a B grade me to product they would have done better to take that juicy Tencent money and make another Unreal product not done by the community. With Cliffy leading it with his troop of loyal designers.

A lot of the people that stayed at Epic were super duper happy his drunken ass left. Still happy even after the failure of Fortnight and Paragon. :-)

Cliffy had a chance to be a great designer but the booze and ego ruined him, he also stopped working. The good news is he got a lot of money from the Tencent buy out so he and the other God of Games cover boys are going to be fine, maybe he can join American banging hot Asian chick sailing around China.


I would wager I know more people at Epic than you, and didn't know any who were happy. Which also makes sense, a large, large bulk of the design team quit that day. Some with him, some elsewhere.

You're also moving goalposts here, about the failure of the product. That wasn't your initial statement, it was that he was a drunk and people hated him. Objectively, that isn't true. Not sure what sources you think you have, likely wholly anonymous. I mean, I suppose I am, too, but I've actually been in that building numerous times. Cliff was well liked. Everyone there was well liked.

No, he hasn't, and you seem really angry, offering no proof, not even anecdotes. You can't name people who left, whether due to this or not. You can't name anything specific.

You just hate CliffyB so much you desperately want all of this to be true.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
40. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2017, 19:39 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 15:57:
This isn't even news, dude has made racist comments several times in the past. He's super popular and doesn't really need to watch his words. You can't shame him or go after his revenue directly because he reaches a wide audience and is essentially his own company. I think that's what really bothers the twitter mob the most, they're used to shaming people into apologies or getting them fired with sheer force of spam.

He said something dumb and he shouldn't have but he's a known racist piece of shit so uh what do you expect? Don't watch him if you truly care about these things. I sure as hell don't. I don't really care about forcing a fake apology out of him just so he can hang onto a Youtube sponsor or something either.

Do you think any of the people complaining, here or on Twitter, watch him?

No, his audience is primarily children. If you're a company paying for him to reach that audience, this bothers you. Even more, if you're a parent, this bothers you. How do you stop your middle schooler obsessed with PDP from watching him?

The guy makes $16M per yer. From advertisers. Who want to reach children. Of course this gets him in trouble. If Captain Kangaroo or Barney or Elmo said this on air, it'd be a similar thing.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
33. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2017, 14:08 Beamer
 
In all honesty, how many video game characters have been well written?

John Marston, absolutely.
 
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News Comments > $45K Star Citizen Refund?
71. Re: Re: $45K Star Citizen Refund? Sep 15, 2017, 11:58 Beamer
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 10:59:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 09:05:
Both AI and Warhorse rank about the same, with Warhorse leading by a point or two. And the critics and audience scores are close.
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/artificial-intelligence-ai/critic-reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/war-horse/critic-reviews

More often than not a critic's view of a film doesn't gel with the general public. I wouldn't put them on a pedestal.

It depends if you view like critics, who have a more academic and professional view, and a wide knowledge to compare to, or fans, who seem to think transformers are watchable.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
28. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2017, 08:56 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:36:
Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:43:

Just don't get how libertarians and GamerGaters argue this.

GamerGaters? Is that still a thing?

Yes, and their latest thing is defending the use of the n word as "just a word," which is rich for a bunch of people angry 3 years later that someone said they were "over."
 
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
22. Re: Morning Interviews Sep 14, 2017, 22:45 Beamer
 
PacoTaco wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:44:
So they followed him to a situation where they got to work on failed project? Are about to get laid off and beg for the jobs at Epic they will never get back? Hmm. Genius.

I will give you a positive spin on it Nexon bought for it to be used outside the western market. Maybe it is doing better there.

As for the US market it had no chance against Blizzard / OverWatch.

Ended up being a B grade me to product they would have done better to take that juicy Tencent money and make another Unreal product not done by the community. With Cliffy leading it with his troop of loyal designers.

A lot of the people that stayed at Epic were super duper happy his drunken ass left. Still happy even after the failure of Fortnight and Paragon. :-)

Cliffy had a chance to be a great designer but the booze and ego ruined him, he also stopped working. The good news is he got a lot of money from the Tencent buy out so he and the other God of Games cover boys are going to be fine, maybe he can join American banging hot Asian chick sailing around China.


I would wager I know more people at Epic than you, and didn't know any who were happy. Which also makes sense, a large, large bulk of the design team quit that day. Some with him, some elsewhere.

You're also moving goalposts here, about the failure of the product. That wasn't your initial statement, it was that he was a drunk and people hated him. Objectively, that isn't true. Not sure what sources you think you have, likely wholly anonymous. I mean, I suppose I am, too, but I've actually been in that building numerous times. Cliff was well liked. Everyone there was well liked.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
15. Re: Op Ed Sep 14, 2017, 22:43 Beamer
 
The word literally means inferior black people. You can say it without being racist, but saying it is racist. It's de facto racism.

Just don't get how libertarians and GamerGaters argue this. And, honestly, why does intent matter? If you call a kid the n word on Xbox Live, he doesn't have the ability to dive deep into your psyche and see if you're racist or not, he just knows you're calling him racist things.
 
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
19. Re: Morning Interviews Sep 14, 2017, 18:41 Beamer
 
PacoTaco wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 18:08:
Rumor has it that most of the Epic guys had to finish his work for him on Gears and Unreal and do it in a way that didn't make him look bad.

Many of the designers celebrated at Epic the day he left.


I mean, that's an easily disproved rumor fueled solely by people that take things too personally and hate a guy for making games for the wrong platform.

When he quit Epic, so did most of the designers. And, incidentally, a large chunk of them went to work for Boss Key.

Kind of hard to say that he was a terrible alcoholic leader no one wanted to work for when so many followed him out the door to a new company...
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
37. Re: Op Ed Sep 14, 2017, 15:01 Beamer
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 12:25:
Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 11:32:
As Mashiki noted, there are places on the planet where being white is the best way to get yourself killed/raped/robbed/abducted,

Ok, name them, then tell me what they have to do with America, where this discussion is taking place, where most of PDPs fanbase is, and where nearly all of his sponsors are.

That's such a weird argument. How utterly out of your depth do you have to be to think that pointing out minorities being discriminated against is a bad thing disproves the argument that minorities being discriminated against is a bad thing. That pointing out that different races being equally scummy disproves that different races are equal.

Ultimately, though, I don't think either of us were making that argument. It was just an argument about whether a white American can know what life is like as a non-white American.

The argument that there are small pockets of the world in which being a white person is considered a bad thing doesn't really change anything for Americans and their experiences.
 
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