The show is centered on the suicide of fictional teen Hannah Baker, and the first season's finale shows her taking her own life. Several organizations, including the National Association of School Psychologists, raised concerns that it could romanticize suicide for vulnerable teens.

"Our creative intent in portraying the ugly, painful reality of suicide in such graphic detail in Season 1 was to tell the truth about the horror of such an act, and make sure no one would ever wish to emulate it," show creator Brian Yorkey said in a statement. "But as we ready to launch Season 3, we have heard concerns about the scene from Dr. Christine Moutier at the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and others, and have agreed with Netflix to re-edit it."

"No one scene is more important than the life of the show, and its message that we must take better care of each other," he added. "We believe this edit will help the show do the most good for the most people while mitigating any risk for especially vulnerable young viewers."


After some initial criticism, Netflix added a warning card to the beginning of the episode, alerting viewers that the episode contained "graphic depictions of suicide and violence."

The show also has a website, 13reasonswhy.info, containing resources about suicide prevention. It contains videos of cast members discussing topics such as bullying, consent, depression and how to talk with a teen about the series. The site also warns: "If you are struggling, this series may not be right for you or you may want to watch it with a trusted adult."

The edited version, now on Netflix, shows Hannah looking at herself in the mirror, full of emotion. It then cuts to her parents finding her body in the bathroom and reacting to her death. The previous version was nearly three minutes long, according to The Hollywood Reporter, and showed her cutting her wrists with a razor blade.

Netflix's decision has drawn praise from a number of suicide prevention advocates, such as American Association of Suicidology, American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, American School Counselor Association, Dr. Helen Hsu from Stanford, advocacy group Mental Health America, the Trevor Project and Dr. Rebecca Hedrick from Cedars-Sinai, according to THR.


"We support the decision to edit the scene in which Hannah takes her own life from 13 Reasons Why. There has been much debate about the series in the medical community," they said in a joint statement, as THR reported. "But this positive change will ensure that 13 Reasons Why continues to encourage open conversation about mental health and suicide prevention — while also mitigating the risk for the most vulnerable teenage viewers."

Ron Avi Astor at the University of Southern California, who studies adolescent bullying and mental health, discussed with NPR's Anya Kamenetz how the images of self-harm on the show could affect teens.

Avi Astor told Kamenetz that the depiction could be contagious — but just for certain teens. "It's not just that any random kid would see it and do it," he said, but for a kid who was already thinking about suicide, it had the potential to influence their behavior.

Kxmode wrote on Jul 15, 2019, 19:01:
There are two sides to every story and somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

Red886 wrote on Jul 16, 2019, 01:29:
Twitter depends on Trump for survival.

i really hope he leaves Twitter for something else

Verno wrote on Jul 16, 2019, 07:15:
The shopping cart is just an example of their ineptitude and bungling of the launch. Also I'm pretty sure everyone here has purchased more than one game at a time on a sale, not exactly an unheard of scenario on a PC games store. It's basic expected functionality, along with stuff like cloud saves. People rightly expect more from a storefront/client in 2019 than one that launched in 2003 when effectively nothing existed.

Also I feel like the store page itself is an endless scrolling nightmare that desperately needs a redesign but I see thats on their road map too.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jul 15, 2019, 21:41:

CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 15, 2019, 14:14:

The headline is based on AMD fanboy drivel that Radeons generally gain massive performance over time through the power of FineWine™ drivers while nVidia cards generally lose massive performance because Huang personally instructs his driver developers to ruin the performance on older cards once nVidia have released a new gen.

It's not really clickbait. There are a lot of AMD fanboys who are spreading these kinds of lies all over tech forums and Reddit. This article is doing a good job of illustrating how full of shit they are.

Know where this starts from? Nvidia itself, way back when nvidia had their own forums(prior to the security breach and shutdown) there were multiple posts from people within the company including members of the driver development team that stated when nvidia launches a new card, they shift the current 'performance' team to the new card, and leave driver updates and maintenance to teams B and C, who often downgrade higher performance for more stability. This isn't some grand conspiracy, there was plenty of proof posted on their own boards and the CM's even acknowledged that performance took a hit over the long-term.

Remember when nvidia was paying at their cost, to have people bring their PC's or have them shipped to them at their cost because of the TDR problems? That was back in the GTX500, 600 and 700 days.

Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2019, 11:29:
This roadmap looks very much the same as the roadmap they published three months ago, with the same timeframes on it, so it doesn't appear as if they're making much headway. Maybe they'll just keep reposting the same roadmap every three months.

Is there any way to back up games on EGS yet?

Red886 wrote on Jul 11, 2019, 04:55:

jdreyer wrote on Jul 11, 2019, 02:40:

Hate speech on 4chan is up by 40% since 2015, analysis of one million comments finds.

Gee, what started in 2015 to cause that? It's a mystery.

answer: VICE

Creston wrote on Jul 10, 2019, 10:39:
They will keep doing exclusives until either

1) They are number 1 in sales.
2) Their Fortnite money fountain runs out.

Steam is clearly betting on 2 happening way before 1, but for some reason people just keep on playing fortnite.

Creston wrote on Jul 10, 2019, 08:52:

Except... keeping all the exclusives it's buying on every store EXCEPT Steam? What if Steam stubbornly sticks to 30%, do you think after a year Epic is just going to be "oh, oh well, I guess our strongarm tactics didn't work. Let's all embrace Steam again!"

I don't think anyone here has said they want a near monopoly,

which Steam most certainly DOESN'T have.

And I don't think anybody has said they're going to keep doing exclusives forever, so it's a beautiful little straw man you're kicking there.

We'll have replaced Steam, which isn't perfect but it's pretty good, with a far, far, far shittier client, owned by a company that has long given the PC gaming market a big fucking middle finger.

Jerykk wrote on Jul 9, 2019, 23:35:

Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2019, 17:00:
But does anyone actually believe it wants to replace Steam?
And, again, this is the same thing people were saying about Steam when it popped up. "Once Steam replaces brick and mortar, everything will be so great, guys. Just wait and see!"

I can't tell if you're being serious. Epic clearly wants to be the market leader in PC digital distribution. That's why they're spending millions just to deprive Steam of games for a year. The entire point of timed exclusivity is to hurt competitors. Epic is specifically targeting Steam which is why so many EGS "exclusives" are also available on Uplay, the Windows Store, Xbox Game Pass, etc. It's also why Sweeney always refers to the industry-standard 30% cut as a "Steam tax," as if Sony/MS/Nintendo/Apple/Google don't take the same cut.

Steam replacing brick and mortar did turn out great. It basically saved PC gaming when its retail presence was rapidly dwindling in the mid 2000s. EGS replacing Steam seems pretty awful considering its complete lack of features, paltry selection and complete disregard towards consumer interests.

Creston wrote on Jul 9, 2019, 16:39:
Yeah but once EGS replaces Steam, everything will be so great, guys! Just wait and see! Tim Sweeney loves us, he really does!

Cutter wrote on Jul 9, 2019, 12:51:
my pops would have put me through a wall.

Cutter wrote on Jul 8, 2019, 12:11:

Bill Borre wrote on Jul 8, 2019, 11:22:
Probably as bad as at a border internment camp.

I doubt it as those Koreans aren't criminals and didn't do anything wrong.

Ozmodan wrote on Jul 8, 2019, 10:07:

ForgedReality wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 21:04:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 20:36:

ForgedReality wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 20:16:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 7, 2019, 19:58:
45db and performance all over the place? Well that's... disappointing.

Was quietly hoping they'd pull something out of their sleeve to at least bring Nvidia's pricing inline a bit but meh.

LULULULULULUULULULUL!!!!!11 You were hoping the last almost 15 years would be just an aberration or something and suddenly, one day, AMD would stand a chance? HAHA!! No. Bring back ATi, and maybe nVidia would have some competition. But, I mean, if you want cheap garbage that you have to upgrade in 6 months, there's always AMD as an option.

I was only quietly hoping, like really really stealthily. I mean, their CPU department did a commendable job at least! We just need a little more competition in the GPU market - like where the F is intel anyway? Seems like there's plenty of room for them.

To be bluntly honest though, i was just hoping that the 2080ti prices would come down so i could snag one ''''cheap'''' lol.

I gave up years ago waiting for AMD to provide competition. But yeah at least their CPUs are finally catching up. I'm just waiting for 7nm GPUs from nVidia to drop so I can run Cyberpunk 2077 in 8k.

Actually AMD already has the best graphics card in the price range that matters the RX-580 and 590 are by far the best in the $200 range. As to Navi, just have to wait and see what the market brings. The last thing I am going to do is support Nvidia's ridiculous prices.

As to 8k it is just a joke on the public, just like ray tracing. The differences on a computer screen are just not discernable.

Rigs wrote on Jul 6, 2019, 13:23:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jul 6, 2019, 05:01:

Bill Borre wrote on Jul 5, 2019, 11:15:
The comments are claiming that is actually a scene from Deadpool 2.

But 2 was just a totally different movie. As if the whole production crew changed. It was just bad bad bad. Not funny at all.
Ryan Reynolds then attacking his fans sealed the deal for me. No more Deadpool.

Well, yes, it was a different crew, for one Miller didn't direct. I'm surprised he was in the movie at all given what happened. Plus you gotta figure a stunt performer died on the set during filming of the whole truck heist scene. So it seemed to be jinxed from the start. Then you have this whole setup: The first movie was almost entirely about getting back to Vanessa and in the second movie, she's dead inside 10 mins. WTF?! Just totally wasted the whole reason for the first movie! I didn't know about Reynolds shitting on his fans, when did this happen?

And, yes, this isn't a DEADPOOL 3 teaser, this is an extra that was on the DP2 dvd/blu-ray and part of the 'Super Duper (LAME)' edition.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 5, 2019, 16:33:
4. Actual move in. Master bedroom bed setup before anything else.

The first thing I do in any move? Setup the desk and computer with the computer chair, everything else is secondary. If needed I can throw something on the desk and sleep on that or in the chair. When I had my wood executive desk (god, I LOVED that fucking desk!) it was roughly the size between a full and queen size mattress so I could throw my travel mattress on it and be just fine and it was actually pretty good for my back, too!

=-Rigs-=