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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
2. Re: Evening Metaverse Aug 23, 2017, 20:12 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Aug 23, 2017, 19:25:
And how fucking hard is it to just ignore Shitter? Stupid bitch.

Really? This is what makes you say "stupid bitch?" And you think that's appropriate? You rush right out to "stupid bitch?"

Regardless of how ripe you are for a permaban, it isn't about ignoring. It isn't that Trump is bothering her personally. It's about the way he spreads misinformation and gets his fanbase lathered up.

You're hopeless. Just an angry, frustrated person that refuses to give thought to anything and lashes out as harshly as you can at the most minute things.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
23. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 23, 2017, 19:42 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Aug 23, 2017, 19:20:
That hermit story is crazy, but I remember reading about a similar case a few years ago also in Maine. Must be something in the water. I wonder how that guy survived all the black flies living outdoor like that.

The article is 4 years old, hence your Deja vu, haha
 
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News Comments > etc.
8. Re: etc. Aug 23, 2017, 14:50 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 23, 2017, 14:47:
Beamer wrote on Aug 23, 2017, 14:42:
If you guys read the article, they don't address the "controversy," nor do they apologize for it. It's as tongue-in-cheek as it gets.

Not that I'd expect the usual suspects here to read the article. Nor do I think the complaints were particularly widespread or more than a handful of people.

To be fair, it IS a link to Kotaku

Yeah, but it's also Cutter and MA, who seem incapable of reading articles.

And yeah, it's Kotaku, who downplay this "controversy" as saying it's "a little insensitive" and "in context it's a little less harmful." They also put "cultural insensitivity" in quotes, meaning it's not their argument. And the discussion they link to is someone calling out the people complaining.

So it seems even Kotaku isn't taking this seriously. But hey, if Cutter can complain about kids on his lawn, he will.
 
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6. Re: etc. Aug 23, 2017, 14:42 Beamer
 
If you guys read the article, they don't address the "controversy," nor do they apologize for it. It's as tongue-in-cheek as it gets.

Not that I'd expect the usual suspects here to read the article. Nor do I think the complaints were particularly widespread or more than a handful of people.
 
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13. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2017, 23:42 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 22, 2017, 19:41:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Aug 22, 2017, 14:50:
I've been actively scanning the internet for gaming/news/etc since 1996 and I don't ever remember seeing Shacknews.

No one i talked to in Counter-Strike/Quake years/Unreal years/Everquest/Ultima Online/Shadowbane era ever talked about that site either.

I actually find it pretty strange if it's some sort of old relic of internet gaming news that I've never seen it.

They have been around since 1996 in one form or another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shacknews
You'd be surprised how many people have never heard of bluesnews.com, there's no accounting for taste. But seriously, If not for one of two friends back in the day I would never have heard of hardocp or bluesnews.

Remember firingsquad.com? https://web.archive.org/web/20000510171432/http://www.firingsquad.com:80/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Fong

Shacknews is actually a much higher trafficked site than Blues. As you mention, no accounting for taste.

And yup, I was on Firing Squad quite a bit. And Sharky, and Telefragged, and the one whose founder died of brain cancer, but none more than here and VE3D. Before most of those died, I consolidated here - when I was a teen it lacked the edge and bite I wanted but was more reliable for news, as I was no longer a teen I no longer needed my games news to be XTREEEEEME!

I'm really thankful on a daily basis this place has been around so long, and that of all of them this one is the one with the longevity.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
20. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 22, 2017, 09:50 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Aug 22, 2017, 08:23:
He glanced up a couple of times, I don't think he looked long enough to cause permanent damage. Though I'm sure he was seeing the image of the sun on his retina for a while afterwards...

Yeah, I'm pretty certain 99% of people out at the time glanced up. Doesn't mean you looked directly at it, just in the general area.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Safety Dance
7. Re: Sunday Safety Dance Aug 22, 2017, 09:06 Beamer
 
He used bunk science and hardly cited anything worthwhile. Which makes your post both ironic and hypocritical.

I mean, in general, white guys whine about "racism" because they refuse to believe their lives could be worse. They somehow think being born a minority is an advantage, because of your first post.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
33. Re: Into the Black Aug 21, 2017, 11:56 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Aug 21, 2017, 11:29:
I think I explained this before. The slippery slope isn't people getting fired for complaining about Nazis. The Nazis are an insignificant issue. A few dozen people, who had no political power, will get fired. A few CEOs. It's inconsequential compared to the number of women, minorities and labor activists getting fired for non-work related reasons -- way the hell more than zero. If you fire Nazis because they're making people uncomfortable, how much room is there for the Civil Rights Act to actually protect people?

If you think we still need the Civil Rights Act and workplace discrimination protections, they can only work in an environment where firing is based on consistent rules. Otherwise you have to consider whether your loophole -- of which "uncomfortableness" based on people's personal lives is the vaguest, shittiest one possible -- can be used to fire the wrong people. I'm not firing you because you're black or old or atheist, you're just making people uncomfortable -- to say nothing of the people who have no legal protections. Or you're too "controversial," in an age where controversy is an on-demand service. If you want to fire someone, anti-discrimination or not, all you have to do is get someone to pry into their personal lives and if that fails, wait for the fake news factory to manufacture controversy out of thin air. True at-will workplaces without pesky equal opportunity laws.

When companies have to manufacture bullshit work-related reasons then at least there's something admissible if management conspires with HR and supervisors. Now there's nothing -- "This employee is making people uncomfortable, rocking the boat and generating unwanted controversy, please show them the door." And most of those people aren't going to be Nazis and skinheads, they're going to be the same people who have always been discriminated against by unjust employers.

Then I honestly don't understand your point and why you're bringing it up now. Also, don't know if you get that no one has been fired for "complaining about Nazis," they've been fired for being Nazis.

Being Nazis.

And what you're complaining about is mostly people who do have protections.

Regardless, given that you used the term "fake news," and how generally all over the place your latest post is, I don't see a point in continuing. If you're ok working with people that go to white power marches on the weekend, you're mostly alone on that. If you'd be ok employing them, and sending them to meetings with outside partners who are minorities that may take offense to knowing that he goes to white power marches and would almost definitely take their business elsewhere due to it, you're mostly alone in that.

I really, really don't think that your coworker being a Nazi is "manufacture[d] bullshit."

Lastly:
And most of those people aren't going to be Nazis and skinheads, they're going to be the same people who have always been discriminated against by unjust employers.

You understand that this is slippery slope, right? You keep saying you aren't making a slippery slope argument, but this is the definition of a slippery slope.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
30. Re: Into the Black Aug 21, 2017, 02:09 Beamer
 
We have zero evidence of slippery slopes, though. Thus far, people have been fired for marching under a Nazi flag. Anywhere other than Nazi Germany, that's more or less going to get you fired.

In the past we've had executives, particularly CEOs, fired for things nowhere near that, but I wouldn't call that a slippery slope, either. Remember when the CEO of Mozilla resigned because he donated money to deprive homosexuals the right to marry? Certainly not an opinion that makes one a Nazi, but absolutely an action that makes it hard, if not impossible, to lead a company.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
27. Re: Into the Black Aug 20, 2017, 19:40 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Aug 20, 2017, 11:55:
Beamer wrote on Aug 20, 2017, 10:17:
The Constitution rightfully protects women and minorities from being fired for bullshit personal reasons. It's not perfect, but it's something.

I fail to see how you compare firing people for being hateful assholes to that, though. Of course companies should. Again, if the guy in the office next to you marched on weekends to advocate for your extermination, would you want to work with him? Would you be as effective collaborating with him? Would you be as happy going in to the office and seeing him? Would you be proud of your company? Would those you do business with be happy doing business with a guy who advocates for such things?

Of course not, and that's why these people get fired.

The Constitution protects women and minorities from being fired for being women and minorities, not because of bullshit personal reasons. Companies that open the door to bullshit personal reasons typically apply them unfairly. Bad people are very quick to seize upon or manufacture controversy to get rid of people they don't like. Firing people for non-work related reasons just shouldn't be a tool in HR's arsenal. There's just no reason to believe that it will only, mostly or even ever be used for good.

Basic professionalism requires most employees to give 100% even when working with people they don't like. If I tell HR I can't work with this guy because he makes a lot of stupid pro-Trump posts on Facebook, then I'm the problem, not him. Likewise someone who's gay should be able to put on their game face and collaborate with an anti-gay marriage bigot, and so on, because that's what the company pays them for. Bringing in outside reasons is workplace drama, which quickly dominates office politics to the detriment of anyone not playing.

If you really want to play the touchy-feely uncomfortableness game, how many business owners and board members do you think skew left vs. right? Which side do you think wins when a nuclear option is on the table? On the West Coast the progressives might just eke out a win with the giant corporations, but how many people get thrown to the wolves in the rest of the country?

I mean, you get that those fired weren't "pro Trump" but marching under Nazi flags, right?
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
25. Re: Into the Black Aug 20, 2017, 10:17 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Aug 19, 2017, 22:21:
Beamer wrote on Aug 19, 2017, 20:16:
I mean, you just made a slippery slope argument then said "it's not a slippery slope."

It's already a done deal. The ship already sailed. Any company that fired Nazis because of something on the Internet was probably already firing people for petty, vindictive reasons and citing intangibles like their corporate values or coworkers complaining about being uncomfortable. To believe otherwise is to believe that these corporations have somehow managed to keep power out of the hands of those who want to abuse it, in contravention of basically every power structure ever. Firing a white supremacist seems far less likely to be a sign of a company taking action after seeing a line being crossed than of one justifying the shitty practices it's been engaging in all along.

People -- usually women and minorities -- are already fired too often for bullshit personal reasons. Firing white supremacists is a new thing, but overall I think getting companies involved in employees' personal lives is like abusing the DMCA for a good cause. In my opinion clawing back employees' rights and establishing an expectation that people are treated by their employers based on their job performance would be of greater overall benefit than getting a handful of white supremacists fired.

The Constitution rightfully protects women and minorities from being fired for bullshit personal reasons. It's not perfect, but it's something.

I fail to see how you compare firing people for being hateful assholes to that, though. Of course companies should. Again, if the guy in the office next to you marched on weekends to advocate for your extermination, would you want to work with him? Would you be as effective collaborating with him? Would you be as happy going in to the office and seeing him? Would you be proud of your company? Would those you do business with be happy doing business with a guy who advocates for such things?

Of course not, and that's why these people get fired.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
23. Re: Into the Black Aug 19, 2017, 20:16 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Aug 19, 2017, 19:04:
Beamer wrote on Aug 19, 2017, 12:00:
I'd argue that marching in a White Power demonstration does this more than doxing.

These aren't anonymous people on the internet, these are people choosing to protest minorities existing, doing so in public, in front of reporters. I'd very much want to know if the guy in the office next to me did that, and imagine most of his coworkers would. And I wouldn't want to work with him. I'd imagine most wouldn't. He'd be rightfully fired for making his fellow coworkers uncomfortable.

If that's an issue, don't march in white power parades. I get why people may think this is a slippery slope, but I'm a bit tired of people whining a slippery slope that the "left" keeps calling everyone Nazis because it's calling people marching under a Nazi flag Nazis. If you align with white power, your life will come crashing down. Just all there is.

I think people being "uncomfortable" is used for bad more than it's used for good. It gets people fired because they worked as dancers, modeled in Playboy, had a child out of wedlock, committed a crime in the past, or didn't stand for the national anthem. And it's a non-quantifiable metric that lets companies fire people for non-work related reasons. You're making people uncomfortable, you're out.

It's not a slippery slope. If companies have this tool then bad people will use it for shitty purposes more often than for firing Nazis, and it doesn't take a majority or a plurality or even more than a handful of actors in management or HR to set the course. It encourages drama in the workplace and my experience is that bad people are much better than good people at wielding this kind of chaos.

Politically, I don't think it's scoring any points. Fox News generally paints the left as a mob. Their coverage of Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, assorted campus protests and antifa sets up a contrast of normal people living normal lives versus a pack of violent, spiteful children. As far as I can tell the Democrats have been losing every seat they've been hoping to pick up in the wake of the Trump election, and I can't see the aftermath of this tragedy swinging more votes left than right.


I mean, you just made a slippery slope argument then said "it's not a slippery slope."
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
20. Re: Into the Black Aug 19, 2017, 12:00 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 18, 2017, 23:47:

And secondly, Doxxing ruins peoples lives fundamentally, they live in constant fear, they need police protection, need to move, change jobs, change identity and not just them, but their families, children and relatives too. To me that is a far worse hate-crime than murder. Murder doesn't hurt the dead person much beyond that, doxxing hurts you an entire life.

I'd argue that marching in a White Power demonstration does this more than doxing.

These aren't anonymous people on the internet, these are people choosing to protest minorities existing, doing so in public, in front of reporters. I'd very much want to know if the guy in the office next to me did that, and imagine most of his coworkers would. And I wouldn't want to work with him. I'd imagine most wouldn't. He'd be rightfully fired for making his fellow coworkers uncomfortable.

If that's an issue, don't march in white power parades. I get why people may think this is a slippery slope, but I'm a bit tired of people whining a slippery slope that the "left" keeps calling everyone Nazis because it's calling people marching under a Nazi flag Nazis. If you align with white power, your life will come crashing down. Just all there is.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
16. Re: Into the Black Aug 18, 2017, 12:59 Beamer
 
Is it really doxing when you're posing for photos and not making any attempt to hide your identity?

And if the guy in the cube next to you wished for you to die in a genocide, and actively campaigned for it, wouldn't you want to know?
 
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News Comments > Quake Champions Early Access Next Week
13. Re: Quake Champions Early Access Next Week Aug 18, 2017, 10:40 Beamer
 
Doom 3, to me, was a steaming pile. Couldn't finish it. It was the last time I ever bought PCG, or CGW, whichever gave it a 96% and an exclusive 8 page review that was clearly traded for that exclusivity. It was a terrible game.

Doom 2016 was a fairly incredible single player game.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
7. Re: Into the Black Aug 18, 2017, 01:54 Beamer
 
I've never seen anyone say there's no problem with antifa. Literally never.

However, I've seen people try to compare them to the Nazis walking around out there, which is a huge false equivalency. I mean, people call them commies, but I've yet to see a hammer and sickle flag, but there are endless Nazi ones. They're not the ones bringing all their guns and stashing them.

And, importantly, most of them would disappear, or at least be quiet, if there weren't people marching in the streets trying to deny equal rights to everyone.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
15. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 17, 2017, 15:46 Beamer
 
I don't think I've seen a photo of Blue since 99 or 03 or some such.

He... he looks younger now?
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
8. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 16, 2017, 18:37 Beamer
 
NicklePop wrote on Aug 16, 2017, 17:27:
Obama, the guy who helped create these tensions ... is a fool.

He didn't create them, he just made you aware of them. Prior, you were ignorant of it.

And yes, that's the right word. If you didn't think racial tensions existed in the US you were flat-out ignorant. Of history, and of the current situation.
 
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News Comments > Call of Duty: WWII Trailer
21. Re: Call of Duty: WWII Trailer Aug 16, 2017, 14:58 Beamer
 
Most articles I've read mentioned it, from actual outlets at least, but most online complaining does not. Not accusing you of that, at all, don't think you fall into that group.

From the devs:

“We’ve wrestled with the topic of Nazi iconography, including the swastika, throughout the course of development," Sledgehammer co-founder Michael Condrey tells me.
"There are, of course, cultural boundaries that we felt we needed to respect," he adds, "and we also wanted to be authentic in our approach to game design. It’s a fine balance of not glorifying the symbolism, while also not ignoring or shying away from this dark moment in human history. There’s certainly a line that we are very conscious not to cross, while still honoring the sacrifice of those who fought to push back the world from the brink of tyranny. In short, it's not something we take lightly."

So Sledgehammer decided to include the Nazi symbols in the campaign "to be historically accurate and tell the story we wanted to tell."
Condrey says it was "the best way to represent history, which was very important to us." The developer even has a military historian on the payroll to ensure that this imagery is used in historically accurate ways throughout the campaign.
This means that for most countries, the campaign will still have the swastika and other Nazi imagery. In Germany, however, where there are strict censorship laws against this, the campaign will be censored accordingly. This is in keeping with pretty much every single other video game release in Germany that has even a hint of Nazi symbols, from Wolfenstein to Bionic Commando.

In Forbes

Given what is going on in the world, and all the like, I wouldn't be shocked to see them reverse it and replace the swastika textures, but don't expect it.
 
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News Comments > Call of Duty: WWII Trailer
18. Re: Call of Duty: WWII Trailer Aug 16, 2017, 14:07 Beamer
 
Quinn wrote on Aug 16, 2017, 08:37:
Beamer wrote on Aug 16, 2017, 06:44:
Quinn wrote on Aug 16, 2017, 02:03:
jdreyer wrote on Aug 15, 2017, 16:37:
Quinn wrote on Aug 15, 2017, 14:38:
jdreyer wrote on Aug 15, 2017, 14:29:
Quinn wrote on Aug 15, 2017, 07:32:
Purposely misrepresenting history so they won't hurt the snowflakes among us is something I cannot accept. Especially now what with all the regressive leftist idiots tainting our society to hell.

I'll never buy this game in my lifetime.

LOL, it's funny you calling people snowflakes when you're the one being triggered. Don't forget your MRA meeting tonight at 7:00. Punch and cookies complementary.

Also, Klaudia and friends would like a word.

Childish take on things, buddy. That's not how it works. It would make snowflakes immune to critique if getting pissed off about them makes me them.

You OK with the developments I was talking about or indifferent about them?
It's Call of Duty. Since when has realism ever taken precedence in this series. Seems odd that you're fine with all of the other concessions this game makes but not with this.

Watch this video. I cannot agree more with this guy.

https://youtu.be/fPU8LPwn-k8

I read the comments, but didn't watch the video. Man, a lot of snowflakes upset that you can't fight under the swastika in MP, which seems like a brilliant idea given what's currently going on in the US right now.

And a lot of very fragile white dudes terrified of black men or women with guns in multiplayer. "Letting people create their own character ruins historical accuracy in a WWII game taking place in a small confined map when next to no actual fighting occurred like that, where people get killstreaks and are reincarnated but I need my immersion as my fat as sits on a chair watching people run around and fight, pretending I'm actually moving a muscle myself!"



I asked to watch the video, not to read the cesspit filled with idiots that is every comment section on YouTube.

The question you must ask is why the swastika is removed when it makes perfect sense to be there within the context. What's next? Black slavery removed from history books, because feelings?

By censoring the swastika, you give it power. That's how these things work. This isn't about people wanting to play CoD under the nazi flag because racism. This is about a game that pretends to portray history but misrepresents it willingly. There is only ONE reason history is worth anything: to learn from it. To fuck with history is to remove that part.
That's what this is about, but some of you don't want to hear it and instead presume I and others are coming from a much darker place.

The swastika is in the game, just not multiplayer, so no one is running around fighting under it. Most people don't want to, and the few people that do shouldn't be empowered by it in a way that makes the game less fun for others.

It's not removed from history, or even this particular game, it's just not being either forced on people in multi, or an additional tool for white supremacists and/or trolls to do what they do.
 
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