VaranDragon wrote on Sep 29, 2022, 14:07:theglaze wrote on Sep 29, 2022, 13:09:
lol @ Polygon's reviewer:It’s been so long since I played the original Overwatch that it’s hard to determine whether Overwatch 2 is “better” than its predecessor.
Jesus....these shill reviews are sometimes worth checking out for the comedy gold alone...
Armengar wrote on Sep 26, 2022, 15:01:RogueSix wrote on Sep 25, 2022, 22:28:
sure b00mer kek
My blues news account is older than some of the kids on here.
Bodolza wrote on Sep 26, 2022, 13:28:
Sounds like y'all have never worked with fresh-out-of-college hires that will take every shortcut and try to game the system as hard as they can to do as little work as possible. And if they get fired in 6 months after 3 months of training, who cares? Take the money and run. About 10% of our new hires literally just don't show up on the first day. No notice or anything.
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 25, 2022, 16:18:
I think I'm throwing in the towel, on having any live action or even animated series follow the novels. It's a lost cause. Game of Thrones, the new Lord of the Rings show, The Witcher, The Expanse, Sandman, Wheel of Time, The Boys, you name it... it's not worth the frustration to expect any adaptation to follow the novels/comics. It's probably far less stressful to go in with an open mind and just judge the product on its own merits(or lack thereof) and let it go otherwise. Too much money is involved, too many creative influences and staffing issues, to have any show/movie be fully true to the source material and actually get made these days.
That said, I'm enjoying the Witcher series so far, looking forward to S3, and I'm sure they will toss a ton of money at whatever Witcher spinoff they make, so they at least have a chance of making a good show.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Sep 23, 2022, 18:42:
This is a larger problem than just game journalism.
Most "journalism" isn't. They're mostly modern day blog posts and/or "opinion" pieces baiting for clicks and ad revenue.
The days of journalists like Bernstein and Woodward are over, unfortunately, as news outlets are subsumed and conglomerated under fewer and fewer megacorps. Megacorps that have a desire to control narratives and push their own spin for either their own enrichment or whomever is paying them.
Argonius the 3rd wrote on Sep 23, 2022, 12:11:Beamer wrote on Sep 23, 2022, 11:33:
Recently, I had someone defend Elon Musk to me by saying "people just don't like him because Big Auto tells them not to, and because he's a troll."
I was a bit surprised. First, does anyone really not like Elon because Ford tells them not to? The overlap between giant raised truck guys and Elon Musk seems to have really collapsed of late, even if they still hate Tesla they love Elon. And second, why would you excuse someone being an ass that bothers everyone just because their goal is to bother everyone? Someone acting like an asshole because they're an asshole and someone acting like an asshole because they're pretending to be an asshole is still choosing to act like an asshole.
Who cares about Elon Musk ? Don't you people have a life or something ? What's this constant need to be always outraged by people you've never met ? FFS get off twitter.
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 23, 2022, 02:43:
Beamer is (once again) playing the devils advocate here, and he is completely ignoring the fact that the WHOLE damn product line has become more expensive. Your argument would not hold up in court counselor.
Nullity wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 14:35:
Of course there will be, I touched on that, and never meant to suggest otherwise. There will be 4070, 4060, 4050 (etc) cards offered at some point. But that's in the future, and doesn't change the state of affairs happening right now.
Nullity wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 13:47:Beamer wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 12:28:That may look reasonable at first glance, but unfortunately, that's not what's happening - these aren't meant to be new ultra high-end products, it's just normal generational tech advancement. Simon laid a lot of it out very well, but it's more than that.
Yeah. Again, this is naming convention only. It appears they're pushing to stretch the line into higher end products this time around.
Every new Nvidia generation is the same - a few months before release, production stops on the current GPU generation in order to clear out the remaining supply. Guess what's different this time? Massive overstock of the 3000 series (we all know why, I won't get into that), and Nvidia has already stated that they will continue to sell high-end 3000 cards meant to fill the void of the 4000 series low-end (4060, 4050, etc), at least in the short-term, which is obviously until supply runs out.
So the 4090 is meant to replace the 3090, 4080 16GB -> 3080, 4080 12GB -> 3070 (yes, shenanigans afoot). The main reason for the massive price increase is because they have to sell off the 3000 overstock, but they can't drop the price on those too much or they'd lose money. And they can't price the new 4000 series where they should be, otherwise no one would buy the 3000 overstock. So the only choices are to delay the 4000 release, or price them way above what they're meant to be (above the 3000 cards).
My guess is that they looked at the 3000 scalping market and saw that there were plenty of people willing to pay obscene prices and that jacking up the 4000 MSRP was an acceptable gamble rather than to delay. Many don't agree, including me.
Hopefully AMD decides to undercut them at normal prices instead of also being greedy. Greedy may be good (for them) short-term, but releasing RDNA3 at "normal" prices would highly benefit them long-term. And if they do, then maybe Nvidia will come to their senses and drop the 4000 cards back to normal prices after the 3000 supply is gone.
Though Nvidia has been getting even shadier lately, so I'm not going to hold my breath.
PHJF wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 12:19:
Dude the gtx 970 (a solid upper middle class card) msrpd at $330. The number isn’t relevant like you said but the hierarchy is, and it’s been long established by nvidia:
X90 - super high end
X80 - high end
X70 - upper mid
X60 - mid
X50 - budget
If they think they should get ~$600 for a mid-range card I shudder to think what they will ask for the lower end...
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 10:04:
How do I express something that should be crystal clear: If a product line-up refreshes a last-gen product line-up. And by refresh, I actually mean replaces. And that new product line up is 30-50% more expensive than the last line-up. How is that a naming issue instead of a pricing issue?
Or rather, let me use an analogy. Say you buy a new model of a car, every time a new series is released. And you're used to buying the same model each time, it's a bit more expensive but that's okay because you get the new tech, and its safer and goes faster etc. Let's say that car is the Ford Mustang.
Now a new model of the Mustang is coming out, but the prices on all the new Ford cars have been hiked so high that for the price of the old Mustang, you can only get the new Taurus. Sure the new Taurus is great, and with the latest technology it's actually BETTER than your old Mustang, but the thing is, the NEW Mustang exists, it's even BETTER and is now beyond your financial reach.....
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 02:22:Beamer wrote on Sep 21, 2022, 23:15:
I mean, there will be a 4070, 4060, and 4050 still much faster than the 30x0 and priced reasonably.
I feel like these product just have naming issues. Call them the 4110, 4100, and 4090 and no one would have blinked. They're stupid expensive. But Nvidia has had stupid expensive high end products for over a decade. Some people want them. The rest of us buy the reasonable stuff. But people that traditionally bought the x70 are hung up on that, rather than assuming the 4050 will probably be in the right price range and still be much more powerful than the 3070.
Even the 12GB stupidity, and it is stupidity from Nvidia, is really just a naming issue.
Are you serious, because from where I'm sitting this post looks like pure trolling. I KNOW you've been around Beamer, and have been gaming for a long time, so I will ask again, is this a serious post or are you just trolling?
Simon Says wrote on Sep 22, 2022, 00:21:Beamer wrote on Sep 21, 2022, 23:15:
Even the 12GB stupidity, and it is stupidity from Nvidia, is really just a naming issue.
No it's not:
-That 12GB "4080" is a on a 104 die. A die usually reserved for xx70 GPUs.
-The performance is roughly below to somewhat equal a previous gen top-end, a performance slot traditionally reserved for xx70 GPUs.
-The core count VS a 102 die is also roughly in the ballpark of a xx70 class GPU.
They tried naming it a 4080, but no one was fooled. Even if they had named it the super duper RTX 40999ti MAXX, no one would've been fooled because we have all this relevant information we can refer to the past which tells the true story despite any naming shenanigans.
They tried slipping us a quick one, they failed. It's an 80%+, 400$+ price hike ( we all know none of the AIBs will have a 900$ card as announced, unless it's a blower ).
Same for the "4080" 16GB which on paper looks more like a 4070 Ti with the enormous gap in core counts VS the 102 die. And even if you consider it a true "xx80" card, just comparing the price also reveals the plot. It's a 71%, 500$ price hike.
No one was fooled. Well except perhaps only Linus who defended Nvidia's pricing ( LOL ), but that guy has also lost contact with reality long ago too. He spouted some insane babble about inflation, as if we had a 80% inflation in the last 2 years, *facepalm*. In reality it's around 14%, which is still a lot for 2 years but nowhere near 80%, that's pure nonsense.
The only model that "kind of" makes sense is the 4090, which is "only" 1600$ ( 6%, so less than inflation, 100$ price hike ), but with about 70% raw perf boost.
Ironically, the best "value" ( perf/price increase ) option is that 1600$ GPU. That's when ofc you don't take into account the ludicrous price of electricity and the power usage that peaks around 660W according to early info, despite its "450W" TDP.
Boomer! wrote on Sep 20, 2022, 15:26:Kajetan wrote on Sep 20, 2022, 15:20:* REMOVED *Boomer! wrote on Sep 20, 2022, 14:50:You dont like the art style? Fine. Thats ok. I'm also not very fond of it. But you use technical, pseudo objective arguments "Its 2022 ..." you describe your personal taste. And that's stupid.
Points should be deducted due to poor graphics. Low poly isn't an "art style", it's just bad graphics period. It's 2022, good gameplay expected and good graphics assumed.
Verno wrote on Sep 20, 2022, 09:33:
We have a few EGS trolls but other than that I don't recall any conspiracy theories about Steam Deck. Speaking of which, I decided to keep mind after all. What convinced me was putting EmuDeck on it and being able to replay Suikoden while visiting the in-laws, much more enjoyable.