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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
16. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 16:16 Creston
 
Beamer wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 13:21:
I could debate this with you for hours. Debate sounds a bit more antagonistic than I mean, but just spitball where we're headed and what we can do about it.

We're headed to this, anyway.

But why? Why are we headed to this? It's not some inescapable singularity where we're on a technological train and we have no way of stopping it. We're going here because fucking GREED is driving it. Companies see a way to cut costs, so boom, let's cut costs and make the shareholders happy.

I genuinely don't think a single one of them thinks to themselves "Does it really make much sense to make a hundred million people unemployed and thereby kill a huge chunk of our potential customers?"


Importantly, the price of little is going down. No restaurant is going to replace its cashiers with tablets and then cut the price of burgers. Even if it does, it'd be cents being cut out, which isn't overly meaningful. And that's just on the blue collar side. AI is going to put six and seven figure traders out of business in the next 5 years. Other digital markets, like programmatic advertising, will probably do that, too. People in supply chain for retailers are already being phased out by algorithms, and lots of buyer roles will follow.

Sounds great. Let's all RUSH TOWARDS THIS! How awesome will it be if AIs program robots to make everything for all us humans, who are sitting in cardboard boxes on the street along the side of the FuckYou corporation, too poor to buy anything? Woohoo!

The only jobs that will be safe are artistic jobs and true manual labor (though CES did have that robot that folds clothing.)

Artistic jobs already pay nothing anyway, so they can join everyone in the tree-bark soup line. And manual labor will easily be faded out. Really the only jobs that will be around are sociopath-asshole (I'm sorry, I believe they're called "executives") jobs and the people that program/repair the AIs and robots.

But money will still be made, for a time.

How? Extrapolate this out. How would money be made by the people? Our entire society is based around the concept of money for labor/food for money. You take away the labor, the equation fails. Where is the money coming from? I hear all these "People will just work PT jobs!" but that's bullshit, because they don't exist, certainly in not even a tenth of a percent of what would be needed to provide labor to all these people.

Or the "People will go back to being self-employed!" Self employed in what? How are you going to self-employ and somehow be capable of competing with a freaking corporation that has robots churning out product for 50000 times cheaper than you could ever make it? Maybe some people can find a niche to create "Real Human Stuff" for the hipster rich, but other than that, I don't see it.


We either move towards a country where Jeff Bezos owns everything, and nothing is worth anything and our GDP plummets because no one can afford anything, or we start taking from those who are reaping the benefits of automation and give to those who are losing from automation.

Right. And right now, we're headed towards number 1. Let's look at it another way. If 100 million people (and again, we're just looking at the US now, but this is going to happen EVERYWHERE, so the number will be monstrously larger than that) were to become unemployed over the next 2 decades, what would happen? How would the US pay for that? It can't. What's the difference between unemployment and UBI? It still needs to get paid by a government that can't afford it.

And again, we just CUT taxes on these people/entities that everyone is saying are going to pay for this!

 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
11. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 13:51 Creston
 
Orogogus wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 13:31:
Creston wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 13:12:
If UBI is to work, the amount would need to probably something along the lines of 2000-3000 dollars a month for the average family. The cost of that would bankrupt anything and anyone trying to bear it. A $2000 UBI would cost four times the current US budget.

What's the math on that? The US population is about 330 million, x $2000 = $660 billion, and Wikipedia says the 2015 US budget was $3.8 trillion. And that's counting men, women and children for the population side, not households or families.

Per month, dude. Not $2000 a year. So $24000 a year.
Admittedly it's only twice the US budget, not four times. I'm not sure what the four times number I'd read about was referring to, but even so, it's still a monster amount of money.

And we just cut taxes on theoretically the only two entities that could pay for it, (maybe, combined, but not really): Corporations and the 1%.

Also, corporations are jizzing all over themselves at the thought of cutting costs with automation, so yeah, they're going to be massively behind the idea of then paying 7 trillion dollars in taxes each year to pay people for NOT EVEN WORKING FOR THEM.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
7. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 13:12 Creston
 
Beamer wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 12:50:
Did you read the article? He wants a tax increase on the 1% to fund a $500 per month stipend for everyone earning under $50,000.

Yeah, I edited it pretty quickly, but not quick enough.

Not sure how what he said got your ire. Because of automation? He has no say in that, and is just warning that it's coming and we better prepare ourselves. He's not involved in Facebook.

Not anymore anyway, but his idea is still fucking stupid. I love this general belief that when automation takes away a large chunk of the jobs, people will just "get part-time jobs". As if there are 200 million part-time jobs just waiting to be filled by all the displaced FT employees.

So which tiny subset of people making less than $50K is going to be helped by the massive $500 a month? People who have no income can't do jack shit with $500 a month. That's a rent check and a utilities bill. Boom, gone. Food? Fuck you, eat bark soup. But hey, if you make $44K with your six part time jobs that are going to be there for the taking, sweet, we found someone for whom $500 would help.

If UBI is to work, the amount would need to probably something along the lines of 2000-3000 dollars a month for the average family. The cost of that would bankrupt anything and anyone trying to bear it. A $2000 UBI would cost four times the current US budget.

And even then, people on the $2000 UBI would have barely enough money to pay for food, housing, clothes and other basic amenities. All these companies currently producing luxury goods that are getting hard at the thought of automating the shit out of everything, well, I hope they enjoy losing 95% of their customer base.

 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
4. Re: Morning Metaverse Feb 21, 2018, 12:50 Creston
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Feb 21, 2018, 11:40:
That said, he isn't wrong that technology is going to force most jobs out of existence in countries like the US.

I wonder how he imagines people will still be on Facebook in a time when nobody has money for food anymore.

America's motto is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It's "I got mine. Fuck you."
 
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
1. SIM cards Feb 21, 2018, 12:48 Creston
 
Erm, and then what do you do when you need to get a new SIM installed in a phone? Buy a new phone?

Internet of Forced Obsolence.
 
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News Comments > No Microtransactions in Burnout Paradise Remastered
1. Re: No Microtransactions in Burnout Paradise Remastered Feb 21, 2018, 12:46 Creston
 
It's so ubiquitous by now that store pages just automatically assume this shit is in there.
 
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News Comments > Burnout Paradise Remastered Announced
16. Re: Burnout Paradise Remastered Announced Feb 21, 2018, 09:29 Creston
 
I'm failing to see what got "remastered" on this. It looks exactly the same as the game I currently have sitting in my Steam library, and in this day and age, after the likes of the latest Forza titles, it just looks pretty terrible.
 
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News Comments > Age of Empires: Definitive Edition Released
4. Re: Age of Empires: Definitive Edition Released Feb 20, 2018, 23:22 Creston
 
The wait is over! Of course, it had been over like six times before already, but this time we promise it's really the definitive edition! Until we release a Definitive HD Edition, followed by a Definitive Supreme Edition, then a Definitive Supreme HD Edition, and...

Seriously, stop selling the same fucking game over and over again. One remake is fucking enough.

Then again, Windows Store only, so I'm going to hazard a guess that you're really not selling that many copies anyways.

 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
5. Re: Evening Metaverse Feb 20, 2018, 23:20 Creston
 
Just what the world needs, another fucking echo chamber.
 
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News Comments > Assassin's Creed: Origins Adds Discovery Tour and Game+
3. Re: Assassin's Creed: Origins Adds Discovery Tour and Game+ Feb 20, 2018, 23:17 Creston
 
I'm really quite looking forward to the discovery tour, and a new game + mode should be cool too. Thanks Ubi.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
14. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 19, 2018, 18:18 Creston
 
Beamer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 13:13:
jdreyer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 13:01:
The good news is I was re-elected president of the JDreyer household!

The bad news is that I was elected by a single vote, and have to work hard to make sure the voter will re-elect me next term.

My Facebook campaign of misinformation seems to have failed. Drat!

You need the Russian bots. You buy, cheap cheap, twenty rubles! Click here!
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
4. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 19, 2018, 11:53 Creston
 
Snow Kitten 2020!
 
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
3. Re: Evening Tech Bits Feb 17, 2018, 12:37 Creston
 
As someone who regularly runs into stuff, I can personally confirm that walls, not people are to blame in this situation

What...the...fuck.

 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
24. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Feb 17, 2018, 12:36 Creston
 
robdot wrote on Feb 16, 2018, 20:24:
The willfull ignorance of the modern conservative is the most dangerous threat to America. They would rather keep the Russian spies, and get rid of the FBI, these people,the Republican voter, are going to destroy us,with the power,of ignorance.

(none of this is meant at you personally)

Then at the next election, fucking VOTE THEM OUT.

I live in the middle of a red state, there's nothing I can do about it, but all these whiny democrats who lament the state of the US right now were the same assholes who wrote all these fancy-ass blogs about how they weren't going to bother voting or would vote for Jill Stein or blablabla.

STOP FUCKING POSTING ON THE INTERNET AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. If every liberal actually bothered to get off his ass and vote, there is no way the morons who think Trump is great could ever get a majority.
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
23. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Feb 17, 2018, 12:32 Creston
 
I don't even care anymore what happens with NN and all that shit. All I want to see is Ajit Pai going to fucking jail for what he did with with Sinclair, that miserable fucking cunt.

And I hope someone explains to his kids just what a fucking piece of shit he is, so they'll grow to hate his ass.
 
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News Comments > Remastered System Shock on Hiatus
36. Re: Remastered System Shock on Hiatus Feb 17, 2018, 12:26 Creston
 
"I take full responsibility. Please take my personal assurance. I apologize. etc etc etc."

Everyone is still out of all their money, asshole.


This is why I never give money to total unknowns who promise the world. And as I said at the time when this kickstarter went live, who are you to "remake" System Shock?
 
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News Comments > Senator Presses FTC and ESRB on Loot Boxes
30. Re: Senator Presses FTC and ESRB on Loot Boxes Feb 16, 2018, 13:59 Creston
 
theglaze wrote on Feb 15, 2018, 11:51:
The gaming industry's argument is that the player never "loses" when opening a loot box; a reward is always provided, even if undesirable.

It is the worst garbage argument of all time. Play Russian Roulette, you get a reward every time! If there was no bullet, your reward is you get to live! If there's a bullet, your reward is a bullet!

That said, Senator "I need to score some points with shit I know nothing about" is conflagrating two completely separate arguments. Micro transactions are not "often referred to as loot boxes." A loot box is (very often) a micro transaction, but the other way around does not automatically hold true.

I have a problem with the "You have a 0.00002% chance to get something useful" loot box garbage, especially if a game is completely designed around this horseshit grind. Straight up micro-transactions, eh. I could do without them, but as a long as a game isn't designed around me buying the $39.99 MegaWinRifle, I don't really care.

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News Comments > Out of the Blue
6. 99% of guys Feb 16, 2018, 13:30 Creston
 
Seems pretty true.  
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
5. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 16, 2018, 13:22 Creston
 
Yeah, there were only five planets and one asteroid in Andromeda. It felt pretty damn small, to be honest.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
9. Re: Evening Metaverse Feb 14, 2018, 16:51 Creston
 
Saboth wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 09:25:
I honestly wouldn't mind if a site uses my PC to mine while I'm there. However, the main reason I use ad blockers is advertisers and companies have been negligent by allowing malware on their sites. So if I allow these cryptominers to access my computer, how can I be guaranteed there won't be malware in there too?

Seeing as how the cryptominer is in itself malware, there is no such guarantee.

 
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