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News Comments > Prey on Steam
25. Re: Nifty Dec 6, 2006, 15:10 EricTheMad
 
And, in addition to that Valve didn't match the price Vivendi was charging for Half-Life 2 on its website in the final months when Vivendi was still the publisher.

I don't know what Vivendi was charging, but it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped the price in order to unload as many units as possible so they could get as much out of it as possible before the agreement was terminated.

What you fail to realize is that the retailer's cut and the distributor's cut is actually the same cut NOT two separate cuts. .... Therefore, the number of middle-men is the same when compared to Steam.

Actually I do, but that's beside the point. The number of middle-men aren't the same because digital distribution has the potential of taking the publisher out of the picture as well.

Again you are wrong because the elimination of the media and packaging ADDS to Valve's cut because the list price for games is not increased to add it, i.e. the publisher normally absorbs that cost.

Packaging doesn't come out of the publishers cut, it's factored into it. There's a difference. And, since packaging is an expense that doesn't exist in digital distribution it does count.

That doesn't happen in all of those publisher re-released games on Steam. Customers are simply feeding Valve and the publisher not the developer the majority of their money.

Unfortunately, most developers are owned by publishers. As a result, they share little of the profits and generally don't retain the Intellectual Property rights to their own games. But there are a number of games on Steam from independent developers. And they're the ones that Steam has the most potential of helping.

Online distribution could potentially give developers more freedom from publishers and allow them to maintain creative control over their games.


That is a myth because it doesn't solve the huge problem of paying for a game's development. Self-publishing or publishing through digital distribution doesn't solve the problem of who will pay for the huge expense of a game's development. Plus, if you look at Ritual's Sin Episodes as an example, elimination of the publisher's influence does nothing to improve a game's quality and originality. The original Sin was better than the sequel.


You really like your myths, don't you? It would be stupid to believe that freedom from a publisher would automatically make a game good. The majority of products in any industry are going to be crap. That's just the way it is. But independence from a publisher allows a developer the freedom to experiment and take risks that they normally couldn't do. One of the best examples would probably be Introversion Software. Their games (Uplink, Darwinia, and DEFCON) are ones that no publisher in their right mind would fund. They are niche products that may not sell incredibly high numbers. But, with low overhead they are able to do quite well. Using the profits from the previous game, they are able to make to the next one better and more polished. Although there are far less independent developers than there used to be, they are definitely out there.

So, how long do you think we can keep this thread going?

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News Comments > Prey on Steam
23. Re: Nifty Dec 2, 2006, 17:10 EricTheMad
 
Actually that is a myth because Vivendi sued Valve for selling the game directly at all.

Nope. Vivendi knew about Steam when they signed the contract, and did insist that both versions be sold for the same price. What Vivendi claimed in the lawsuit was that Valve misrepresented the size of role that Steam would play. They figured that Valve would just use Steam to sell a few copies, but instead Valve pretty much pushed it as the main way to purchase Half-Life 2. Which meant far less money for Vivendi.

Proof of that an agreement was not keeping the prices of games on Steam higher was first seen when Vivendi's publishing agreement with Valve expired. Valve did NOT lower or even match the prices Vivendi had been charging on its own website store for Valve's games let alone street prices.

As soon as the contract with Vivendi was terminated, Valve immediately signed with EA. So, there was always a publisher involved.

The box has nothing to do with it. All third-party games on Steam have a middle man too. It's Valve.

That's a good point. But, in retail there is always more than one middle man. You have the publisher, the retail store, and sometimes a distributor, all taking their cut. Plus the cost of the CD and packaging. Altogether that's much more than Valve's cut will ever be.

For the most part Steam doesn't even match the street prices of games sold at retail.

That goes back to the original point. The street price is lower because larger retailers take a cut on the per unit price in order to sell more units. But again, Valve is prevented from selling below MSRP by the publishers.

I actually don't have a problem with games distributed online costing the same as the retail editions (though it would be nice if they were lower), as long as that "extra" money goes to the developer and not the publisher. Most developers rely very heavily on publishers for funding, which means they have to give up a lot of creative control. Publishers are looking for the greatest profits with the lowest risks, which means in rushed out sequels and games based on "proven formulas". Online distribution could potentially give developers more freedom from publishers and allow them to maintain creative control over their games. That would result in more creative and original games. And that's good for us.

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News Comments > Prey on Steam
16. Re: Nifty Nov 30, 2006, 18:55 EricTheMad
 
Yep!!! That's Valve for you. They talked about how Steam was going to cut out the middle men & save the customer money. But with no box, there is never a bargain bin & Valve never gave us a quality title game for less than retail.

When Valve released Half Life 2, they had to agree not to sell the Steam version for less than the boxed one. The publisher didn't want a lower priced Steam version to cut into their profits. I'm sure every publisher is insisting on the same thing. Unfortunately, as long as a game has a boxed version there will always be a middle man.

That's a good point about the "bargain bin", though. I counted 60 games for sale on Steam. About half of those are selling for less than the initial retail price. So, they do half a fairly decent bargain bin. But, the price on Steam will never drop as fast as the price of the boxed versions.

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News Comments > etc., etc.
7. Re: No subject Nov 21, 2006, 20:05 EricTheMad
 
...did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?

Just because you can't carry on a meaningful conversation with someone doesn't mean it's their fault.

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News Comments > Evening Q&As
2. Re: No subject Oct 21, 2006, 13:32 EricTheMad
 
umm, didn't it take like half a minute to reload between every shot in the civil war if you were using a rifle?

A well trained soldier could get off three rounds a minute. The problem was that with so many steps to reload, it was easy to screw up in the chaos of battle. After the Battle of Gettysburg they found thousands of rifles with up to twenty rounds rammed in the barrels. Things were so chaotic that the soldiers hadn't realized that the rifle didn't fired, so they'd just reload it again and again.


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News Comments > Made Man Demo
19. Re: No subject Oct 14, 2006, 19:15 EricTheMad
 
what about the children?? will someone please think of the children?!?!?!

"I believe that children are the future. Unless we stop them now!!" -- Homer Simpson

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News Comments > New D&D Online Module
9. Re: No subject Sep 23, 2006, 15:25 EricTheMad
 
Why the big fanfare everytime these idiots release some crappy 'free' content , is that not what you pay the monthly fee for in the first place?? lol

The announcement isn't for the people who are already playing the game, they'd already know. It's for those who haven't tried it yet. If they see that a game is getting continually updated and supported by the company, they're more likely to give it a try.

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News Comments > etc.
7. Re: No subject Sep 15, 2006, 19:51 EricTheMad
 
It is considered one of the best console games ever. I consider it one of the worse PC games ever.

A sub-par PC game is still much better than what console gamers are used to.

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News Comments > Sunday Mobilization
1. Rainbow Six Vegas Sep 11, 2006, 18:33 EricTheMad
 
Did Las Vegas finally give up on trying to stop this from being released?

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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
3. Gas-line broadband a pipe dream? Sep 11, 2006, 15:21 EricTheMad
 
I hate it when writers try to be clever with the headlines. But at least they're not as bad as the local TV news.

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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Dungeon Siege II: Broken World
11. Re: Nothing New right? Aug 5, 2006, 13:53 EricTheMad
 
They should make a mmog out of the Dungeon Siege world/saga/IP.
Like Warcraft it's well known enough to have a fan following.

And after the movie EVERYONE will want to play!
In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (2007)


It's a Uwe Boll movie. Once it comes out, no one will want to play.

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News Comments > GalCiv2 Patch Plans
4. Re: No subject Jul 27, 2006, 18:31 EricTheMad
 
The dev team really communicates with the fans, and that impresses the hell out of me.

What amazes me is that a company that makes desktop utilities for Windows is able to put out higher quality games than most dedicated game companies.

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News Comments > Out of the Blue
63. Re: Fastest Magazine Jul 18, 2006, 19:18 EricTheMad
 
Clip of donuts is on its way to the Bats now from me:D

I can see the next video now, "The fastest donut clip you'll ever see." It will feature a very large man and a couple of 10 "round" clips of Dunkin' Donuts.


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News Comments > Out of the Blue
55. Re: Fastest Magazine Jul 18, 2006, 18:27 EricTheMad
 
And Wiki agrees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip

So it is perfectly valid to refer to such a thing as a "clip".


This is from that Wikipedia page that you claim agrees with you.

Common Misconceptions

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, or more accurately, a specific type of magazine known as a detachable box magazine. This is an incorrect usage of the term. In actuality, clips and magazines perform two different functions. It may be said that clips are used to load magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms.


Yes, clips hold cartridges and magazines hold cartridges, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. That's like saying that since people live in houses and people live in apartments, then a house must be an apartment.

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News Comments > F.E.A.R. Patch
7. Re: ... Jun 29, 2006, 23:58 EricTheMad
 
Is this the patch that makes the game less repetitive?

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News Comments > Into the Black
17. Re: No subject Jun 28, 2006, 02:16 EricTheMad
 
When I went through the gas chamber, one of the privates panicked and ripped the mask right off of a drill sergeants face. He was laughing about it once the effects of the gas wore off. Of course, he may have been laughing about what he was going to do to the private who did it.

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News Comments > etc.
5. Re: Jack Thompson Jun 4, 2006, 20:44 EricTheMad
 
I love Douglas Lowenstein's response. He doesn't refer to Thompson by name (thus robbing him of free publicity), but instead just refers to him as a "discredited anti-video game zealot".

Thompson is a parasite that feeds on publicity, good or bad. If we ignore him and stop treating him like he actually matters, he'll eventually just go away. Of course, as the guys at Penny Arcade said, if Jack Thompson goes away someone else will just take his place. And that person might actually be competent.



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News Comments > Gatherings & Competitions
2. Re: Video Games in Olympics Jun 1, 2006, 18:24 EricTheMad
 
Blood doping wouldn't do you any good, but amphetamines still would.

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News Comments > Morning Previews
4. Re: No subject May 19, 2006, 18:52 EricTheMad
 
The concept sounds interesting, but it's a complete waste of the Shadowrun license.

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News Comments > TimeShift Date Shifts Again
12. Re: re May 14, 2006, 18:40 EricTheMad
 
The fourth dimension they are referring to in Timeshift is time (the timeshift ability). The fourth dimension they are talking about in regards to the PS3 is just marketing speech for "it's really cool". They have nothing to do with one another.

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