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Real Name Michael Rigs   
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Description A+-certified Master PC builder and Lifetime PC Master Race card-carrying member. Currently, lurking and keeping my mouth shut.
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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
58. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 15, 2016, 23:53 Rigs
 
Verno wrote on Oct 15, 2016, 15:18:
If you're talking about the day 1 patch they dropped then that's blatant apologism on your part. I'm not going to give them credit for actually patching the game into a playable state on release hahaha. If by redid you mean actually added the story LOL. Pre-patch copies were like a fucking tech demo, that's a bottom barrel argument. It also has nothing to do with the lies told and lack of any communication post release. He falsely advertised the game, of course people are upset. They thought they were buying one thing and he delivered another. Its really simple to understand. People got mad at Ubisoft, Peter Molyneux and many other examples for the exact same thing.


I'll certainly remember that...believe me...

How ominous. You do that and add some ellipsis too. Having opinions is what you're entitled to, having them respected is entirely based on their content.

My opinion doesn't deserve special consideration? I'm not looking for a medal, I just want you to open your eyes and see what I do. But it's hard to see things with the flames of hate flashing in-front of everything, eh?

Flames of hate, haha. Factually labeling someone who lied continually a liar and saying that their product sucks when it does is FLAMES OF HATE. People are bitching online, no one egged his house or kicked his dog. You're the one all worked up over this, grasping at straws and trying desperately to save face over a silly argument you lost a long time ago. It's a shitty half finished game and Sean Murray lied a lot, deal with it. He traded reputation for a sack of money.

So what if he did, Verno? What the fuck then? Does it change a single fucking thing in your mind? No. Would you believe a word he said if he did apologize and explain what happened? No. So why do it? I've been on hre for two days just trying to make you see that he's a human being and I've got fuck all for my efforts. Don't act like him saying anything would change anyone's mind, most of all yours...

The customers he ripped off are human beings too. I don't see him writing apologies and making good on his promises. I don't see him giving the money back or making his game what he said it would be. Oh suddenly everyone else is just being too angry at him and he can't blamed for even a lack of apology. Everyone else is to blame for his decisions, his promises and his product, very convenient. Heck we're responsible for his feelings too. Funny how your consideration only extends to where its convenient to your argument. Have a nice fuckin vacation!

Your reply comes off as extremely childish and honestly I debated whether to even waste the time. Your mind is set, nothing, not Murray apologizing, not Sony refunding money, not the fucking Second Coming of Christ will change it. If refunds and apologies were made, you'd say they weren't enough or that it was too late or that they should have known. So whatever. One thing that I'll make very clear to you so you won't misunderstand - I wasn't in this to 'win'. I'm not 12, I don't have discussions and debates with people in order to best them. How fucking childish can you be? You threw it out as if I was going to be hurt, 'I'd lost the fight a long time ago'. I wasn't fighting to begin with, you jerk. I just want to shake the anger and stupid out of you, don't you understand?! That's why I'm not wasting any more time with you. I've got better things to do with my time then constantly repeat things because you can't be arsed to actually see what I'm saying.

This place is filled with hate, everyone's itching for a fight at the drop of a fucking hat. Much more than normal. I'm tired of having to explain myself because I don't follow your sheep mentality and yet it's ignored, as you did- constantly. It's sad, really. I love this place. So many other places one can go and yet I stayed here. But interacting with the lot of you isn't fun anymore when you refuse to see anything but what you want to see.

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'Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package, how efficient of you...I only hope that in your stumbling around, you do not wake the dragon.' They didn't listen, of course. Arrogant men never do.
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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
53. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 14, 2016, 20:19 Rigs
 
And just to push my point even further that none of us here know what happened during NMS's development or the reason some features were omitted, it seems that modders are finding all kinds of things that are in the games files yet are not implemented, for whatever reason. Maybe it didn't fit with the design, it didn't work the way they wanted...who the fuck knows? I sure don't. Neither do any of you. (And it's really fucking sad I need to disclaimer that)

In any case, derelict, crashed freighters have been brought back into the game, via a mod. They spawn in the ground, are randomized and are lootable. It's still early days and things are still a little wonky in spots but it's a great start! Plus there's a mod that enhances the worlds and their generation, with some spectacular results!

PERFECTLY PROCEDURAL PROP BUILDINGS

BETTER WORLDS


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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
52. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 14, 2016, 16:38 Rigs
 
Verno wrote on Oct 14, 2016, 16:00:
I don't know, you're the one ignoring the facts here so I wouldn't go throwing that sheep label around before you take a look in the mirror.

I'm ignoring nothing. Do you read anything I write? Any bit of it whatsoever? I never said he didn't make mistakes. I never said he didn't do wrong. My beef isn't with that at all. You'd know that if you actually read what I said, Verno.

Sean Murray didn't just make a mistake, that's a blatant misrepresentation of what actually occurred especially in light of their company's failure to own the issues and lay out plans to address it.

Did they not do that exact thing even BEFORE release? Or because it wasn't good enough for you (as in everyone here with the pitchforks and torches)? They totally redid a large part of the story and path and they said why AND they said what they were going to do going forward to enhance the game. Oh, but you're not talking about the release, no. You're talking about the 'lies' told for months before hand, yes?

Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect, I don't know why you think your opinion deserves special consideration.

I'll certainly remember that...believe me...

My opinion doesn't deserve special consideration? I'm not looking for a medal, I just want you to open your eyes and see what I do. But it's hard to see things with the flames of hate flashing in-front of everything, eh?

Sean Murray made a big pile of money and a lot of people feel ripped off, he also won't address their concerns. Of course they're upset and its perfectly normal. People threatening to kill his cat? Not ok. People calling him a lying dick who won't face the music? Fine. When I take someones money at work I damned well better do a good job or I hear about it. Sean Murray deserves no better.

So what if he did, Verno? What the fuck then? Does it change a single fucking thing in your mind? No. Would you believe a word he said if he did apologize and explain what happened? No. So why do it? I've been on here for two days just trying to make you see that he's a human being and I've got fuck all for my efforts. Don't act like him saying anything would change anyone's mind, most of all yours...

Threatening to quit the website over people calling bullshit on your weird opinion about No Man's Sky is pretty childish but whatever, its your life *shrug

Just as childish as the behavior in this thread, so I'm in good company. I'm tired of being labeled a white knight because I want people to treat others like human beings. God fucking forbid, the horror! I try to act respectful and considerate to most people here and it gets me nowhere. Maybe if I acted like a douche, my opinion would have more weight. Works for Trump...


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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
51. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 14, 2016, 16:36 Rigs
 
Double post, shitty internet connection...  
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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
48. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 14, 2016, 15:09 Rigs
 
Verno wrote on Oct 14, 2016, 14:03:
Give the last word stuff a rest Rigs, you were being ridiculous and everyone else pretty much nailed it here. I have no idea why you refuse to see reason or want to believe so badly in someone who clearly screwed over a lot of people but its beyond obstinate at this point. Sean Murray is a lying sack of doodoo and it's not worth getting personal over.

Let him own up to his misdeeds and make right by his customers then we'll talk about it.

This is the key difference to me. Over-promising, being too optimistic, development path now working out, components having to be moved to future DLC or sequels, all this can be understood as issues encountered during game development.

It's the post-sale behavior that's putting it into different territory. If someone sells you something that isn't close to what's advertised, and they won't take your calls afterward? And after all the complaints come in they don't change the marketing? That's scamming.

If they were serious about adding these missing features down the road they would say so for damage controls sake. Silence is literally costing them money with all the refunds going on, not to mention the damage to both personal and brand reputation. That they continue on this path despite all that tells you all you need to know about their intentions.

Yeah we're in complete agreement here. I can see some of the features being taken out. The complete list is kind of mind boggling so I struggle with giving him the benefit of the doubt on the whole thing. More importantly though they've just disappeared and left their customers holding the bag. The poor handling is what takes it from unfortunate into pissed off consumer territory.

Et tu, eh, Verno? Fine. I have a lot of respect for a lot of you and I very rarely devolve to childish name calling but this shit is just whack. I see, all too clear, only at the end. Opinion means nothing. Professing innocence means nothing, if the crowd you're in believes the opposite. All of you are sheep. It's popular to shit on another human being for making mistakes so everyone piles on, regardless of whether there's any actual truth to any of it! I don't give a fuck about anything regarding Murray. But you all keep thinking I'm his personal side bitch...or whatever it is you think. I bought NMS just like the rest of you and I'm just as fucking disappointed as all of you. My opinion isn't the popular one but it deserves just the same amount of respect. But you all just continue to seethe under the surface over nothing. I'm done with this subject and Blue's for the foreseeable future.


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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
46. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 14, 2016, 13:40 Rigs
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 14, 2016, 07:40:
I want you to do something for me. I want you to go outside and look at the sky. Lose all of that anxiety and insecurity about being completely wrong on the internet. Then I want to go back inside, learn to condense your posts and admit you were wrong. No one treated you like a child but if you insist on acting like one then don't be surprised if people treat you that way.

You appear to be taking it way more seriously than anyone else and you refuse to debate the facts. The circular bullshit about ~my opinion~ doesn't really fool anyone. Opinions are not shields you can hide behind when you're wrong. It is a fact that this guy lied about several important features and was advertising them as in the game up to 3 weeks before release. It is a fact he lied. People bought his shitty game and got mad about his dumb lies. They didn't burn down his house, they posted about it on the internet. Oh no they were mean to him! Grow up. You can fucking tolerate it and tough shit if you don't want to. That's the least he can do for his irate customers after taking their money and shitting in their hand.

People will defend any dumb shit on the internet, I swear to god. I've never seen a more open and shut case of bait and switch from a developer. No one cares if other developers do it too, that's not ok either and people have bitched plenty about that. I have no idea what your goal is here but it sucks. Let people have their feelings about the game and stop trying to force them to see your opinion as the only valid one. Now I'm done reading huge walls of text about bad games.

No wall of text. Golfclap

Feel better? Of all the 'I'm not serious about this but I'm fucking tired of YOU being serious about this' bust-a-vein-in-my-forehead responses, that takes the cake. Congrats. Now, for your reward, I'm going to not debate any of the facts....you know, because I just like to piss you off or I'm on Sean Murray's dick...or something. Whatever. I don't know how much 'nicer' I could have been about things but, well, I see it doesn't matter to some people no matter what. So we'll go the other way and see how it goes, yes? Middlefinger

I hope you enjoyed not understanding a word I said. Have a nice day!


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News Comments > Star Citizen Trailer
28. Re: Into the Black Oct 14, 2016, 06:16 Rigs
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 14, 2016, 05:12:
Now I'm not sure if I am understanding you correctly but two different pairs of shoes (have you followed the links I posted?). The damage control video is the Reverse the Verse Special Edition video and it is obviously a response to the CitCon criticism if you watch it and listen to what they are saying because it is referring to much of the CitCon backlash.

My other link lead to the Star Citizen: Full CitizenCon Presentation which is 100% without a doubt most definitely an edited version of what *I* watched that night. I watched it live on the RSI site... the only way I can imagine there being a difference is if they had different directors for the various streams? Or were you just drunk? Wink

I haven't looked at the videos you linked, no, I assumed they were the two on YT that I've seen. I especially haven't seen the RtV:SE vid at all nor was I aware of it's existence. My satellite internet connection is throttled so YT is out of the question for another 13 days. (I live on the north side of Fucking Nowhere, FL Nod ...please pray that the Broadband Gods, in their infinite wisdom and grace, shine their heavenly glow of unlimited DSL and many mbps in the near future... Innocent ) I'm lucky to be able to post half the time. And honestly, during the stream, which I watched live, yes, I was in and out. I had it playing but I was AFK during bits and pieces doing work on a project. I did catch the planet landing bit and firefight but wasn't really glued to the screen watching every detail, so I may have missed some things.

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 14, 2016, 05:12:
In my version of the stream which you can find here there was a director changing camera views and mostly showing the gameplay, of course, but occasionally switching to other views where you could see a dude at a PC (IMO) pretending to control the action with a HOTAS (check at the 02:15:20 mark... it was not Chris Roberts, of course... Chris was only doing live commentary but not playing or he would have probably used a Shitbox controller as always ).

Anyway, why has that original footage been edited out for the version they put on YT? Or both YT versions for that matter... the cuts to the guy with the HOTAS are missing from the full presentation *and* from the video linked in this newsbit here which seems to be an all new version anyway and not taken directly from the show(?)

I'll have to reserve final judgement until I can get a chance to view the rest of the 'evidence'. I don't think, IMO, that it was all scripted, as I explained in my previous post. Parts may have been, that's only natural. You don't want shit going sideways during a presentation. Apparently, based on the response to the whole Sean Murray thing in the other thread, I seem to be in a very small minority that doesn't think people are evil bastards... *shrugs*

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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
41. Re: Into the Black Oct 14, 2016, 04:41 Rigs
 
All of you, do me one favor. Get up, go outside, take a deep breath and look at the sky. The amount of vitriol in this thread is really astounding, even for Blues standards. I am actually, generally, no-shit-not-trying-to-sound-funny-tongue-in-cheek-like worried for your well-being. Really. You all have such pent up anger, almost to the point of near seething rage just boiling under the surface.

Take that anger and hate, just for a second and put it aside...if you're able. Just for a moment, speak about this as if you have no dog in this fight. I don't. So let's get one thing absolutely clear, right here, right now. I am not 'defending' Sean Murray or his actions. I am not condoning his actions. What I write is my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. If you have problems understanding the difference between stating an opinion and condoning someones actions, don't bother replying. I can't help you and I won't continue to constantly say the same thing over and over. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine. That's the idea. That's what forums are about. That's why we're here...or at least I thought? To speak about one's opinions on various topics related to PC gaming, yes? So let's do that and not try to throw each other under the bus. I've seen pictures of people that have been hit (and dragged) by buses and it's not pretty.

Now that that's out of the way...first I want to directly respond to RedMask quickly...most of your post is your personal opinion of events, speculation. You have no clue what happened in the Hello Games studio nor are you privvy to Sony's internal decision making. If you actually are and have proof of such, then my humble apologies. However, I'll hedge my bets and say you weren't there and what YOU said is no more fact than what I did. Because what I said isn't popular and yours seems to be the line being towed around here doesn't magically make it any more true. Sorry, but you'd say the same if it were reversed. I'm not trying to imply that what you said doesn't have merit nor am I trying to marginalize your opinion. But don't marginalize mine either. Also, 'I should know better.'? Please don't talk down to me as if I'm a child and that I'm not capable of understanding the situation. I wouldn't disrespect you like that, please don't do it to me...

As for me putting 'lied' in quotes, that was just my way of pointing out that I have a different opinion of what he did, not that I was suggesting he was being sly about it. Basically, it was pointing to my way of looking at it, not the way he said it. (If that makes any more sense...lol) Sorry for the confusion. I want to point out that I can't, after looking over some videos today (on a better wifi connection) believe that he outright lied and knew it. It just doesn't look that way to me. I'm sorry. That's just how I feel. If you feel differently, great. That doesn't make me more out of touch or gullible (because I know Cutter is going to say something like that...), I just see people differently, I guess. When I look at the videos, I see a guy that, yeah, maybe he's a lot like Molyneux, he wanted to have this stuff in his game and maybe for a long, long time he thought they could do it. Listen, we weren't there everyday for four years with them working on this thing. They could have done a number of different things over that time that we have no knowledge of. Hell, who knows that a year from now, IGN or Kotaku might come out with an article showing an old build that was stored away on a internal server that they found that had some of these things and when they find it, they show us that they did do some of the things they promised...and something just didn't work out. The fact is we just don't know. That's just one fairytale possibility but it could happen. Probably not but that's the thing, none of us know.

And I can say this with any developer. Look at Bungie, all the different stuff HALO was gonna have before release. It was gonna be a an RTS! It was gonna be on MAC! Even recently with 343, the WHOLE DAMN MARKETING CAMPAIGN of Halo5 was a fake! It was bullshit! None of those supposed situations happen in the game! Did 343 lie? No. Bungie did the same thing with HALO2. A lot of you guys either don't remember the old days or weren't there because back in the DOS and early Win95 days, missing features was par for the course! My favorite game of all-time, Aces of the Pacific, was supposed to have an RAF add-on that was previewed for months. Never came out. Instead they shipped Aces Over Europe. Granted, it's not 1-1, apples to apples, but the sentiment is the same. Game development is fluid. We have no idea what they planned to have at launch, whether or when they knew this or that. You guys can speculate and I can speculate back in the opposite direction. We aren't privileged to the details. As gamers, consumers, we have to look at it all from the outside and wonder. Go look up Larry Bundy Jr. (Hello, you!), he has a ton of games from the old days that should have had this or was to have that or didn't even look like what was on the box! You guys are taking this way too hard...

Again, I'll state that this is my OPINION, I am not defending nor condoning anyone's actions or behavior. This the way I see things. I see the world just a little different from you guys but it doesn't make it less legit. All our parents told us we were special butterflies when we were young...well, maybe not Cutter. Ok, enough hippy bullshit...that's my story and I'm stickin' to it...you guys have a stroke over it, don't say I didn't warn you...

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News Comments > Star Citizen Trailer
25. Re: Into the Black Oct 14, 2016, 03:28 Rigs
 
Alright, CJ, I've had enough. Stop going full-on Derek for a second (Never EVER go Full Derek!). I really couldn't care less about this SC crap anymore. It's impressive, yes and when I watched it I was really hoping, like most of us (even if we can't publicly admit it for fear of tarnishing our bad-boy hardcore PC elitist image), that this would someday be a 'thing' we could play and enjoy. Until then I have plenty to keep me busy, and plenty other shit to boil the blood in my poor veins about ( Next time, Mojang, NEXT TIME! Shakefist )...

If I understand what you're saying correctly, you're implying that they took the original stream 'Con footage and removed the bit where the guy was using a HOTAS to control the ship as it landed and then with the buggy/rover/whatever, yes? I watched the stream too and then watched what was uploaded to YT and this video here that is the subject of the post was uploaded a day after the stream was, not days later as a response to bitching on forums. It's been sitting in my 'Watch Later' and 'History' list for days now. I started watching it and then stopped, realizing it was the same thing but I used it to share to a few friends who are semi-interested. I figured that would be a better 'to-the'point' video to send instead the hours-long one with little more than talking for most of it.

Anyway, the original stream was posted to YT on the 10th of October, the smaller video above posted almost exactly a day later on the 11th. There are several other videos uploaded by RSI and others regarding the 'Con around the same time frame. Now maybe I wasn't really paying attention, but I was under the impression that Roberts was controlling the ship and the rover? I, unfortunately, cannot double-check because of my shitty connection. But if not, the only bit that I think was 'staged' or 'scripted' would have been the close up of the station as they came in, the guy on the mountain (naturally), and the firefight...and the worm. These bits may have been put in there as-is or randomized. I think, personally, they were, themselves self-contained instances of scripted events. Just because something within an unscripted sequence is staged doesn't mean it ALL is! I think they know how to program a little better than that.

In addition, you can see at multiple times during the video of the landing and then before the firefight that there are flashing textures all over at random times. Maybe a shader-issue or an engine-issue? I dunno. I'm not a programmer. But I've seen something similar in games at times when drivers start getting fussy. Maybe the rig was running a little on the warm side?

Fact is, no one knows because no here was there to see it. Much like the Murray conversation I wrote about earlier today, we aren't privvy to the internal, every-day details of what goes on. Any number of things could have been going on behind the scenes. All you're doing is speculating and stirring the pot. Again, you're going full Derek and no one likes that...


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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
32. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 13, 2016, 12:28 Rigs
 
The Half Elf wrote on Oct 13, 2016, 10:26:
Rigs,
He's not a Liar? Or what about this?

He's not a liar, he's just running as a presidental nominee right?

El Pit wrote on Oct 13, 2016, 04:26:
Rigs wrote on Oct 13, 2016, 04:03:
I hear a lot that Sean 'lied' to everyone. I really honestly don't think that's the case. [...] hoping if he says the right thing, he'll get out of the death trap, he (admittedly) put himself in.

So in other words, he did not tell the truth but said what everybody wanted to hear. Not telling the truth could also be called... Ah, whatever. Did not buy the game but still got it on my wish list in case they will patch it into something more interesting. One can hope. But should not lie about hopes being actually already reality.

Alright...I should point out that what I said is my personal opinion and you obviously have a right to your own. Because my opinion doesn't square with yours, doesn't make me 'blind to the obvious' or 'stupid' or a 'sheep' or that I like people to whisper sweet nothings in my ear even though I know it'll never happen. I just don't see the situation like you do, or how the majority does. That's life.

Look at ALL the shit Trump has said and done over the last year and yet those that support him, they're reasoning for continuing to support him is basically - 'Nobody's perfect. We need someone to shake up Washington and Trump is it'.

*sigh*

I think that's akin to sticking your head in the sand, hoping you'll get the return you want while ignoring the bad stuff. Kinda like war crimes. Well, yeah, they raped, maimed and slaughtered but hey, can't argue with the results! I don't agree with any of it but that's me. I've met plenty of people that think he's great. I could probably meet plenty of people that think Chris Roberts or Derek Smart is great. Everyone is different and has different opinions. No one thinks my bitching and complaining and cuss-ridden rants about Mojang's snapshots are a reason to get upset. I think it's bullshit that they have no *^$^)_@# ambition and every patch is just bug fixes and bullshit features no one wanted. Yet they're pulling in millions a month. All about perspective.

Anyway, did Sean Murray outright lie and know he was lying AT THE TIME and yet did it anyway? I don't believe that. I think he talked about features he either had at one time in the game or hoped to implement before release. (Note, I can't view those videos that are linked because of my throttled satellite connection, sorry!) For whatever reason (we aren't there, we don't know what problems may have come up during development, since making games isn't exactly easy) these features weren't in the final game. But keep in mind the absolute meltdown when a small two month delay was announced. Now picture what would happen if they came out and said, 'well, having had an outside crew come in and play, they've found the game to be below standards and we've decided to delay six months to retool the game and make sure that all the features we've said would be there, will be". It would be chaos! And then everyone on here would be saying 'I TOLD YOU SO!!!'. And Sony might threaten to pull the plug or ship it out anyway. Whatever. There's a million different scenarios. Point is, what happened, happened. Is Mr Murray solely to blame for it? I don't personally think so. I think he's a part of it, surely. But I don't let Sony off the hook, either. I personally believe they had a LOT to do with the decision to kick NMS out the door. And who's decision was it to NOT have QA or an outside testing period? Obviously one person who got the game early almost totally changed the game before launch! Think if it had gotten more testing before release! But who denied the game that? I think Sony did. Who told reviewers they weren't getting review copies early? Sony. Who wouldn't give refunds until practically being beat over the head for it (and still won't in a lot of cases)? SONY. If you're gonna be pissed off, be pissed at SONY. I think Murray gets to be the goat in all this and he knows it, which is why he's being quiet. No matter what he says, he'll be labelled a liar. So what do you do? No matter what you say, no one will listen. You take yourself out of the whole situation. Which he has.

I just hope they can patch in some of what we hoped would be in there.

Does this explain what I said a little better (I hope)?


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News Comments > No Man's Sky Patch Update
17. Re: No Man's Sky Patch Update Oct 13, 2016, 04:03 Rigs
 
shiho wrote on Oct 13, 2016, 03:15:
I have no pity for most people who pre-ordered or bought this game.

It was crystal-clear from its inception that it's going to be another Spore. There was no "what if". It was just going to be crappy procedural models inside a bland gameplay loop. The more time passed, the clearer that became, to the point where even a dog should've gotten it already. The vague pie-in-the-sky promises, the fuzzy-wuzzy videos with no real gameplay shown...

But I guess there's a sucker born every minute. I feel no pity for any seasoned gamer who bought it, period. The only people I pity, are the clueless teenagers or their moms ordering this game for them. Those are the innocent casualties of Sean Murray's scumbaggery.

Oh, come now, everyone, even at their best isn't 100%. I'm sure ALL of us have had buyers remorse at some point for something. The way I see it, if the devs don't show off the best parts of the game right away, because it's something they're proud to show everyone, then something is off. Every successful game never went all the way to launch without marketing off it's prized jewels. There are no hidden secrets when it comes to game mechanics. If it's good, they're gonna show it off. Not 'hide it for gamers to discover'. They might not show all of it but they'll at least show it exists.

I hear a lot that Sean 'lied' to everyone. I really honestly don't think that's the case. I don't. Not because I'm a starry-eyed believer. But because I see him stuck between three slowly closing walls during development, hoping if he says the right thing, he'll get out of the death trap, he (admittedly) put himself in. Between the public, Sony and his own dev team. I think he was happy with the result but I think he was also happy it was over. Think back. Two decades, three. A game like NMS would be heralded as a work of art. I'm certainly not saying that it is now, but back then it would have been. It would have been a best-seller, on all the end of year lists and 'Top whatevers'. Maybe he thought it was enough. Maybe he realized that what they had promised wasn't going to happen, he had Sony on his back to put the game out, plus death threats from idiots saying no more delays and he just threw his hands up and said, fuck it. Because, he is still a human being, you know. Even if you get yourself in a bind, you CAN just call 'game over' and walk away. His decision to ship a game without certain aspects that were promised didn't cost lives or anything. You guys need prospective. In the end, it's a game. It didn't turn out as promised, like most things do in real life and we have to live with it. If you go into this with that in mind, you won't feel so...betrayed when it happens. I mean, I'm not perfect. I get pissed...so very pissed off, at Mojang for their lack of focus and ambition. But it's just blowing off steam. They don't care. Sea n Murray doesn't even know who you are or care. He got out of the torture pit he put himself into. And he only had to sell his soul to do it.

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(Yes, this is all over the place, I just woke up...apologies. Hopefully you can find my meaning in there somewhere...lol)
 
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News Comments > Crush Online Launches
2. Re: Crush Online Launches Oct 11, 2016, 15:42 Rigs
 
Kxmode wrote on Oct 11, 2016, 12:41:
Also, their website brings my computer to a grinding halt.

Holy shit, you're not kidding! It sorta kinda was ok before everything loaded (my satellite connection is throttled so it's the equivalent of ISDN speeds...blech!) but when I went to exit and close the tab, Chrome didn't do anything for a solid three minutes! In fact, I couldn't do ANYTHING for three solid minutes either! Geezus...


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News Comments > Saturday Mobilization
17. Re: Saturday Mobilization Oct 9, 2016, 18:59 Rigs
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 9, 2016, 11:35:
TheVocalMinority wrote on Oct 9, 2016, 00:19:
Cutter wrote on Oct 8, 2016, 19:02:
In Soviet Union cars log you!


This is probably the worst attempt at using the "In Soviet Russia" meme that I have ever seen.

Well that's just because your an asshole with no sense of humour.

I totally think I'm on Cutter's IGNORE list and if so, woooo! W00tw00t Woohoo

Regardless, I have to wonder...so you're the only one that dictates what is humor and what isn't? And we can't have say otherwise? I'm extremely curious who inflated that ego to such enormous proportions?! My god, man, you're quickly hitting DerekSmart/KanyeWest/ChrisBrown territory! Turn back before it's too late!

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News Comments > Saturday Mobilization
10. Re: Saturday Mobilization Oct 9, 2016, 02:15 Rigs
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 8, 2016, 21:13:
Ozmodan wrote on Oct 8, 2016, 20:54:
it will be a long time before I let a car self drive me. They need to make major improvements to the AI before I will ever trust that. like that fool who was watching a dvd when his car went under a truck, sorry no way would I take that chance.

An autopilot is NOT autonomous driving, at no point ever should you switch an AP on and go away doing something else. Why do you think pilots sit in the cockpit even today, or why do you think ships are driven by a crew, and not the AP ? Hell, ship AGI is maybe 7 or 8 years out, and the main problem is docking and undocking as the ports have to be mapped and they need to support such drone vessels. With cars we are maybe 12 years at most away from a full feature AP... but totally autonomous? As in drone taxis? Yeah no. Maybe in few big cities that are exceptionally well mapped, but not on the whole national street network.

The problem is that Tesla marketed this technology totally wrong. An AP is never ever supposed to replace a human at the wheel.

So when Uber gets their self-driving taxis, will there be a driver in the seat? That seems counter-productive if there is, as that person could just drive instead. Now I'm confused...

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News Comments > Saturday Mobilization
9. Re: Saturday Mobilization Oct 9, 2016, 02:05 Rigs
 
TheVocalMinority wrote on Oct 9, 2016, 00:19:
Cutter wrote on Oct 8, 2016, 19:02:
In Soviet Union cars log you!


This is probably the worst attempt at using the "In Soviet Russia" meme that I have ever seen.

Well, to be fair, Cutter had to get into the conversation somehow...his ego doesn't allow for non-participation... Nod


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News Comments > Evening Patches
1. Re: Minecraft snapshot 16w40a. Oct 7, 2016, 02:29 Rigs
 
MINECRAFT SNAPSHOT 16W38A - Sep 20, 2016

This snapshot gives you a lot of bug fixes and also a new gamerule! If you are longing for new features - don’t worry, since MINECON is very close now! And during MINECON we will give you info about several new exciting 1.11 features!

MINECRAFT SNAPSHOT 16W40A - Oct 6, 2016 (After Minecon!)

It’s time for a charming bug fix snapshot!
And this snapshot includes…

Notable changes:
  • Fixed bugs introduced in the previous snapshot

  • Added bugs to fix in next snapshot


  • Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you!!! Fuckin' lazy, bullshit liars!

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    News Comments > Mafia III Framerate Concerns
    20. Re: Mafia III Framerate Concerns Oct 7, 2016, 02:13 Rigs
     
    Kxmode wrote on Oct 7, 2016, 01:01:
    Why do publishers continue to wait until the last minute (or never) to tell people important things like a 30 FPS lock?

    That's a rhetorical question, yes? We don't have to actually tell you the answer, you as a Blues veteran and PC gamer, know it.

    The double-backwards PR speak has got to stop!

    'In the meantime, the team welcomes feedback and would like to hear from you about what performance adjustment options are important to you.

    Fucking, really?! Are you so out of touch that you don't know which options every PC gamer usually yells and screams for when it's not included in a newly released 'AAA' game?! Look at the forums for Batman: Arkham Knight, No Mans Sky, DX:MD, Battlefield, Battlefront, GEARS4, ForzaHorizon3, Quantum Break or even GTA5! You don't need anyone to tell you what you need in order to support a PC game unless, of course, that it isn't your focus and you're trying to cover your ass and not actually put in the work. Also...

    ...right now the game runs at a solid 30 frames-per-second.

    Under what specs? Minimum? Recommended? Fantasy-In-Your-Head? Oh! You mean on CONSOLE! Yeah, of course...how fucking naive of me...


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    News Comments > Styx: Shards Of Darkness Delay; Trailer
    1. Re: Styx: Shards Of Darkness Delay; Trailer Oct 7, 2016, 01:55 Rigs
     
    While I commend a dev for delaying a game in order to get it right (and don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking them for it) I just hate the way they characterize it! They have to 'adapt' to Unreal4? C'mon. What's to 'adapt' to?! It's the Unreal engine! There might be some new goodies but it isn't a huge paradigm shift! And if you switched the game over, you've had to have known how to use Unreal4 in order to do so. So, what, exactly are you 'adapting' to? Or is this just bullshit PR speak, like usual? (That I hate with a passion! )

    Just say, 'We're finishing moving the game over to Unreal4 from Unreal3'. Simple, to the point, honest and doesn't treat your customer base like drooling idiots that like shiny words...

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    News Comments > Beholder Beta to Demo Transition
    2. Re: Beholder Beta to Demo Transition Oct 4, 2016, 15:17 Rigs
     
    This game is set in a dystopian future where an oppressive totalitarian state exerts complete control over the population.

    Oh, so it's a sneak peak at Trump's America, then? Sweet!

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    News Comments > Destiny 2 PC Rumors
    22. Re: Destiny 2 PC Rumors Oct 2, 2016, 22:17 Rigs
     
    MattyC wrote on Oct 1, 2016, 00:56:
    Rigs wrote on Sep 27, 2016, 22:47:
    after they abandoned last gen like a hooker with leprosy.

    The 360 had a lengthy run having launched in 2005. It is 2016, time to let that one go.

    Don't get me wrong, you can still get tons of fun out of a 360 playing through older titles, but expecting support for something as online focused as Destiny? I don't think that was ever in the cards.

    While I agree, partially, regardless of the age of the platform, if you bring out a game for it that you sell for triple-A price, then I would expect as much support for it as the next gen titles get. They didn't have to put Destiny on the 360, it could have been just a next-gen, Xbone title entirely (and it probably would have benefited from that considerably). I think the real reasoning behind it was that GTA5 had been released, then re-released on next-gen consoles, then released again on PC, and sold millions. Money talks. Destiny was a hotly anticipated and loved title. Why not do the same thing and reap the rewards, ja? But since Destiny is much more MP-focused than GTA5 is, cutting off development and access to the 360 version basically killed the game on that platform altogether. GTA5 on the last-gen is still very playable. In fact, I still occasionally play my PS3 version. With Destiny, you can do that too, but you can't access the best stuff or the newer stuff. And IMO, there's no real reason for that to be true. It hasn't gotten a graphical upgrade, nothing in it since it ceased development on the 360 warranted it's demise. And this is what I meant by my statement.


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