Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato the game. It even has IQ9 and the pig.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 12, 2023, 14:50:
I mean, you can say that, but from your own link:

"...the author cannot rescind the rights previously granted to existing recipients. (This claim is somewhat debated for GPLv2, and may vary by jurisdiction, but is made explicit in GPLv3.) In that sense, releasing a work under the GPL means abandoning the ability to restrict its distribution and modification"

You can claim copyright until Hell freezes over but once you license it under the GPL, you are beholden to it. In fact, the Software Freedom Conservancy undertook a case against Vizio for specifically ignoring being beholden to the GPL's license. Not only are you beholden to it, you are contractually obligated to follow it per the Superior Court of Central California.

GPLv3 is even more stringent about this, which is why IP hoarders like MS and Amazon proffer their versions of Linux, and their modifications to it, to the public, free of charge. Even their lawyers have figured out that, yes, they are bound by, and contractually obligated to, release their source code and any modifications to it for free and without restriction.

You seem to not understand that, fundamentally, the GPL (any version) is a copyleft construct, specifically designed to get around the bullshit attitudes of people who want to stand on copyright.

I give up. I’ve made my point and I’m not a lawyer. So there’s no need to continue on.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 12, 2023, 13:18:

Silent Bob wrote on Aug 12, 2023, 11:03:
I do not have the right to take your GPL source code and rerelease it under a proprietary license. But I do have the right to change the license of my own source code that I am the sole copyright holder of and only contributor to. As long as the source code that was released under the GPL2 remains available under that license, future updates can be released under a license of my choice.

Nope. From the GPL2:

"You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License."

A copyright holder is not beholden to the terms of the license they choose to grant.

https://tinyurl.com/5fhcp33c

Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 12, 2023, 08:35:

Silent Bob wrote on Aug 11, 2023, 23:07:
Yes but as the sole copyright holder, they have the right to release future updates under a different license.

They do not if the source code from which any future updates derive is based upon or requires the original source code. That's the whole point of the GPL. It prevents ScumBagCorp Inc from saying "We added the color brown to this project eleventy hojillion people are using. We're now making it a proprietary license. Pay us or we'll sue you out of existence." The purpose of the GPL is to ensure, explicitly, that such does not occur and that open and free software remains open and free.

I do not have the right to take your GPL source code and rerelease it under a proprietary license. But I do have the right to change the license of my own source code that I am the sole copyright holder of and only contributor to. As long as the source code that was released under the GPL2 remains available under that license, future updates can be released under a license of my choice.

That still allows you to fork if ScumBagCorp decides to make a minor change and close source the project.

At least that’s my understanding of what I’ve found.

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Nullity wrote on Aug 11, 2023, 16:44:

Silent Bob wrote on Aug 11, 2023, 16:25:
I’m no expert on GPL licenses but I’m not aware of any clause that would force a developer to release subsequent updates under the same license. I believe they released the updated source code because they wanted to.

GNU General Public License v2.0

When distributing derived works, the source code of the work must be made available under the same license.

Yes but as the sole copyright holder, they have the right to release future updates under a different license.

Nullity wrote on Aug 11, 2023, 13:50:
I agree that this is a good thing, but to be fair, the reason the Quake and Quake 2 re-releases have published their source code is because the source code for the original games were already published under the GPL, meaning that I don't think they really had a choice.

If you notice, id Software hasn't released source code for any of their new games since being acquired by Zenimax and John Carmack leaving. Carmack was a major influence behind them always open-sourcing their games, but I'm guessing Zenimax also had a strong (negative) opinion on this as well.

I’m no expert on GPL licenses but I’m not aware of any clause that would force a developer to release subsequent updates under the same license. I believe they released the updated source code because they wanted to.

Hopefully Rockstar learned their lesson and didn’t outsource the port to a cheap mobile games developer. The way they treated the GTA Trilogy was a travesty.

Lord Tea wrote on Jul 27, 2023, 01:32:
Musk owns Twitter/X, he doesn’t have to pay anyone anything. People need to realize that they are guests on his platform nothing more nothing less.

What happened to “don’t screw over and piss off your users?” Or does that not matter anymore because he’s a billionaire who can do whatever he wants?

Prez wrote on Jul 21, 2023, 15:14:
I often wonder what percentage of gamers like me make up their customer base. There are 2 main reasons I buy games on GOG:

1) Their game is not found anywhere else, or it is uniquely packaged in a way that the amount of nerd-fu I have to do is minimized (e.g. preloaded with fan patches or unauthorized community fixes)

2) It gives me a completely untouchable version of a game that is completely mine without worrying about publisher licensing or online platform requirements and the like that I can store and run locally.

I have bought many games that I already owned elsewhere just from an archivist perspective.

No DRM is a major factor for me. But now that I mostly play on Steam Deck, it’s just easier to buy through Steam. Even though the Heroic Games Launcher is definitively nice to have for GOG games.

Oh, you actually want to play the games you just bought?

I hope they at least put a warning up when you attempt to purchase.

Enahs wrote on Jul 17, 2023, 19:20:
This will sound negative, but it is an honest question. Does he do anything other than trying to still make money and recognition off his days and nostalgia at id software? It could be bias in all that seems to be promoted, but without looking into it, it seems that way.

He tries. Empire of Sin was his latest attempt three years ago. But mostly, he leans into nostalgia.

WannaLogAlready wrote on Jul 17, 2023, 18:43:
Romero singlehandedly sunk Ion Storm, but specially left Eidos Interactive (that acquired 51% of Ion Storm) in financial straits.

Is that really Romero’s fault though or those who threw all that money at someone who wasn’t at all qualified to run a company? This was also during the dot-com bubble of the 90’s where there were numerous examples of extremely reckless financial behavior.

I mentioned this before but I’m still amazed at the amount of over the top Romero hate here after all these years. The guy is far from perfect but you treat him like he strangled your brand new puppy.

We’ll likely see the EA anti-cheat on PC that’s incompatible with Proton and Steam Deck. Thanks EA.

Razumen wrote on Jun 6, 2023, 08:27:

Silent Bob wrote on Jun 6, 2023, 08:19:

Jonjonz wrote on Jun 6, 2023, 06:57:
This stupid entitled woke style protest will pass, and Reddit will continue like nothing happened. Fewer whiners will mean better discussions on Reddit.

Adults need to grasp the fact that Reddit can do anything they want with their API, and shutting off freeloading third parties who have been leeching of Reddits servers makes sense. You want to build a business based on fire-hosing Reddits content via the API from Reddits servers, fine, but the free ride is over.

Reddit didn’t support third party apps as an act of charity. They helped drive growth, especially among power users. But, now that they’re pursuing an IPO, profit is the priority and they’re willing to absorb the bad PR to it.

It’s a business decision so you can take your woke anger somewhere else.

Saying woke over and over, while ignoring the points others have made, doesn't make your comments any more sensible, you know that right?

I was about to edit my comment and remove the woke part because it’s not worth arguing over. I’m just tired of people turning every argument into a culture war.

But out of curiosity, what other points was I ignoring?

Jonjonz wrote on Jun 6, 2023, 06:57:
This stupid entitled woke style protest will pass, and Reddit will continue like nothing happened. Fewer whiners will mean better discussions on Reddit.

Adults need to grasp the fact that Reddit can do anything they want with their API, and shutting off freeloading third parties who have been leeching of Reddits servers makes sense. You want to build a business based on fire-hosing Reddits content via the API from Reddits servers, fine, but the free ride is over.

Reddit didn’t support third party apps as an act of charity. They helped drive growth, especially among power users. But, now that they’re pursuing an IPO, profit is the priority and they’re willing to absorb the bad PR to it.

It’s a business decision so you can take your woke anger somewhere else.

Ant wrote on Jun 6, 2023, 01:42:
Didn't John Carmack showing off his Quake 3 in Macs.

Carmack actually convinced Steve to support OpenGL over something proprietary. That decision also paved the way for Steam on Macs. It’s unfortunate that Apple didn’t follow suit when they chose Metal over Vulkan. That’s a big reason why Valve isn’t making much of an effort to support Apple silicon these days.

Jivaro wrote on Jun 5, 2023, 20:57:
Every 7-10 years I hear this "Apple is going to be taking gaming seriosly" and then nothing changes, and 7-10 years goes by...rinse repeat.

Well Steve had very little interest in gaming. Tim doesn’t seem to be any better. But if their new headset is the future for them, they would be foolish to overlook the potential that games, and not just mobile games, have to drive sales.

But first, Apple needs to get their heads out of their asses and start supporting Vulkan. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

He’s a cockroach. Won’t go away. The only reason he’s still around is because the Microsoft acquisition gave him a lifeboat.

I haven’t worked in the game industry but I’ve worked in tech for over 25 years and have been employed by some large and very well known hardware companies.

1. Tech is a rough industry. I’ve lost my job twice under questionable circumstances and I expect it will likely happen again as a now older worker if I stick around long enough.

2. Game development is worse than tech in general. Especially when it comes to job security.

3. I’m not defending Brian Fargo but I also don’t think he deserves to be singled out. That type of behavior is unfortunately much more common than it should be. Read up on the history of id Software as an example.

4. The world isn’t black and white. Don’t rush to judgement until you’ve heard both sides of the story.

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