The new stuff is looking pretty nice too, much neater. Digging everything going on website wise lately!

Tribes 2 usually has around 1000-1500 people playing it on the weekends and I know because I am one of them

Fair enough. When I saw the announcement, I logged in to check it out, only playing it once a month or so noawadays.

They're closing the Tribes 2 servers? That's going to piss quite a few people off.

I just logged on to see 45 non-bots playing.

Worthless demo. I do very much like how they didn't resist the urge to make the game painfully slow like what Gears of War and the such have been.

Will probably pick this one up on the cheap. It's no Nightfire, which was underrated as far as Bond games on the PC go, though.

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Your post began with "The problem is that TF2 has refined multiplayer to such a degree it's hard to enjoy other games"

Not, "The problem is that Steam has refined." The above statement is inaccurate because it was not TF2 that refined anything. It's not an issue of semantics, your original statement was factually wrong.

Also, if you're going to use "the rest of us" as rhetoric that the game is the best, it's worth noting that CS 1.6 and Source at last count had more than 5x the players in each. CoD4 has about double the players at 28,000. BF2, W:ET are also either higher or around the same. So technically, "the rest of us" aren't playing TF2.

The problem is that TF2 has refined multiplayer to such a degree it's hard to enjoy other games - it is easy to pick, yet has a great depth of tactics; it has a simple but functional interface; it has very good graphics that also run well on most systems; it has THE best server browser to date; it loads quickly and maintains stats; it auto-patches allowing for small issues to be fixed seemlessly; it has had huge amounts of free content added

I know you're obsessed with the dumbed down TF2, but most of those things you pointed out aren't at all unique, and are common to the Steam platform. The server browser is the same thing as other Source games. The interface is the same as other Source games, except with 2 extra screens for loadout and classes. Auto-patching is available in 461 games on Steam as of this count, stats tracking is also old hat.

Some people around here seem to feel bitter towards many devs moving towards other platforms and genres(casual, consoles, whatever), so any time it gets some press they vent out a cloud of insults at the devs. You get used to it

You sir are a traitor to the PC platform! We shall have you quartered and hung at once for crimes against PCism.

Unfortunately, only half of that completely outlandish statement hasn't been repeated before.

I'm also surprised at how easy people act PS3 and XBox piracy is. I'm not sure if the former is even possible yet, while the latter requires from what I understand either a firmware flash that will get you banned from Live, or some sort of drivechip that lets you switch firmware, and thus would also require soldering.

Yea, that's JUST AS EASY as heading to Pirate Bay and typing the name of anything I want. Unless you need to whip out the soldering iron to install uTorrent.

Not that anything that's said matters at this point, as this thread is going downhill to page-long 90+ comment rants.

LittleBigPlanet seems a bit Sporian. Lots of crap you can create, but then absolutely nothing to do with it.

Well, you can play it. That kind of game has worked pretty well for Garry's Mod.

Probably just ran into a deadline where they HAD to release it. Patch came pretty quick, though.

I wonder if they will expand to not only Source Engine mods, but mods for all games featured on Steam.

I personally see this as testing the waters of Steamworks, building up to something like what MS is doing on the 360 with the XNA Marketplace.

How will they determine which mods should be hosted? Does anyone wanting hosting just say, "hey, I've got a mod, host it for free"?

And what are they going to say when FakeFactory asks for Cinematic Mod V8.0 Beta to be hosted, which is well over 5GB?

And how are they going to handle mod updates?

Most of those questions I don't see as valid as it's not intended to be an open platform, but just a vehicle for successful mods to be easily distributed at Valve's descretion. If they don't want fakefactory's mod, they just say no.

The released TF2 is not the realistic military team shooter that it was intended to be.

Wait a second, since when was TF2 intended to be a realistic military team shooter?

It had a realistic ART STYLE, but I don't believe anything was ever released about the gameplay. TFC too had a realistic art style, especially once they released the new model pack, but you'd be hard pressed calling TFC realistic.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, but I don't think Valve ever indicated as such.

What part of "not interested in you" don't you understand 3DR?

If "guy with 3700 posts on gaming message board is tired of media releases" isn't enough reason to immediately halt news of the game to the entire industry, I don't know what is! Add to that the somewhat frightening behaviour here of people talking directly to corporate entities like they are actively listening to this thread, and we've got a recipe on how to market a game... right?

Excuse me, I have to go yell at my bottle of Mrs. Buttersworth pancake syrup now, they've been kind of low quality as of late.

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I've always thought that the reason it never caught on is because of the learning curve.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record (like that happens so rarely around here...) I think it was largely the piss-poor state the game was released under, although if I had to give 2 reasons, the second would be the learning curve.

I think Tribes 2 really had a hugely missed opportunity to capitalize off the sleeper hit the first Tribes was.

I was expecting yet another quote blown out of proportion, like David Braben's comments on the matter were, however it seems this particular Bungie dev excels at dickbaggery, suggesting that the very existence of studios could be threatened by this.

tried to install Vista on an excited friend's 2.53 GHz Celeron D, I can assert with confidence that you don't want to run the thing on less than a competent Athlon64 or Pentium 4 with hyperthreading

A real-life friend of mine runs Vista on this thing, and Eclipse IDE runs perfectly well. Remote desktops into it and works with it that way.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Sony-Vaio-UX380N.htm

It only started to shine after the 10 patches or so.

The bags are like $85 retail, so actually it's a fair price for what you get. Of course, I don't see many people here being fashion-minded or anything, and will, like me, be happy with a $20 bag from a thrift store. That's what I use for my laptop.

Wasn't talking about this game, champ, haven't played it yet have I?

If you really think that's what I think about what he was saying then you aren't a very deep thinker. Try again.

Ah sorry, I must've confused the part where you posted in a thread about the game talking about political correctness and whether what is right or not, when the article was about other similar moral dilemmas.

But it was all unrelated to the game!

Do you just go into other random threads and ramble about vaguely related things, too?

Deep thinking my ass. You said something stupid and are trying to pawn it off as unrelated.