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News Comments > Fortnite Battle Royale Plans
12. Re: Morning Consolidation Feb 12, 2018, 04:31 Muscular Beaver
 
Talutha wrote on Feb 12, 2018, 01:00:
I'm not sure how you guys think that 20hz is a low goal. This is a game putting 100 players in a fully destructible world with building in it. Other games with 64+ tick rates are low player counts like CSGO or Overwatch. The other Battle Royale games are struggling with the same issues. CPU speeds have not increased at all in the past few years, yet we continue to try and push player counts and arena fluidity further. We're simply hitting the max we can go with what we have available.

And I know someone will bring up Battlefields 64 tick servers, some even have 128 tick and that is honestly a good point. It is incredibly impressive what DICE has managed to do with their engine. But you have to keep in mind they are the only ones that have been able to do this, and they had to work at it for years. Frostbite is the only engine that runs as well as it does, takes full advantage of multicore CPUs, can handle a multitude of genres and works well across a wide range of hardware/consoles. The only other engine that I can think of off the top of my head that can do this is Ubisoft's Snowdrop engine and that one does not have anywhere near the networking ability that Frostbite has.

I guess ultimately my point is that getting above a 20hz tickrate is not an easy task for a game of this size. Only one company has managed to do it, with only up to 64 players but I do believe DICE has some of the smartest people in the industry working on their engine. They would have to with what they can put out with it. If these other companies could, I'm sure they would put in the research and figure out how to do it. And I would bet that Ubisoft has tried and failed or else we would see them competing on the same fronts with online gameplay.
I am sorry, but King of the Kill has 50% more players than Fortnite or PUBG and achieves a much higher tickrate than even 64. Check the video I linked. It uses ForgeLight.

If you set such low standards, of course you wont go much beyond them. Fortnite is a horribly sluggish game, and PUBG is even worse. Again, check the video, it is very thorough.

And yes, CPUs have become much faster. Its called multi-core/-thread (but even IPC has increased quite a bit). They have been standard in servers for over 10 years now.

You could kinda forgive it on Fortnite, because it was originally developed as a coop game only, so high tick rates arent that important. But it is not anymore. And seeing them set such low goals, proved they have no intention of improving it much.

As another example, ArmA 2 achieved 50+ Hz in 2009 already with 64 players (sometimes more). Yet ArmA 2 was known for having a very bad multi-thread optimization and in the duration of a game you could see how the server struggled to keep the tick-rate up and it didnt have the luxury of resetting after each game (often games took more than 6 hours (in Warfare for example), and even after that the server wasnt reset.

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News Comments > Fortnite Battle Royale Plans
5. Re: Fortnite Battle Royale Plans Feb 11, 2018, 19:41 Muscular Beaver
 
necrosis wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 19:02:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 14:27:
Ugh... 20 Hz...
It needs 64 minimum, better yet 128.
Wow... if a game has that low standards you know its never going to fix its real issues.
Yeah really. What is this Overwatch?
I thought they increased that to 63 Hz in 2016.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Patches
2. Re: Sunday Patches Feb 11, 2018, 18:52 Muscular Beaver
 
Flatline wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 15:55:
Is this the patch that makes Fallout *fun*?

I'm glad I bought it on sale and just got the core game because FFS this is a boring-ass game. I get that Fallout games get going kind of slow but sheesh this game is a chore.

I've started the game 3 times now. Third time I actually spent a little time building a settlement and that was a little cool. I did some more side missions and that was okay.

But every time I get to Diamond City my eyes glaze over and I lose interest. I'd rather play Destiny 2- at least the combat there is slick and fun moment-to-moment.
No, its not Fallout, its Bethesda games like that. Same with any Elder Scrolls game so far. I could never complete Skyrim for example, because the gameplay became so boringly easy and repetitive at one point and character development stopped already at about 1/3 to 1/2 through the game. Or its the sterile worlds Bethesda almost always creates. I couldnt play Fallout 3, Oblivion or Morrowind because of that.
And its obviously not only me, because I have quite a few friends who also never completed Fallout 4 or Skyrim.
 
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News Comments > Fortnite Battle Royale Plans
3. Re: Fortnite Battle Royale Plans Feb 11, 2018, 15:50 Muscular Beaver
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 15:42:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 14:27:
Ugh... 20 Hz...
It needs 64 minimum, better yet 128.
Wow... if a game has that low standards you know its never going to fix its real issues.

ROFL! Seriously, how the hell is a 20hz server their goal? Am I misunderstanding something completely about their networking code? That seems unplayable.
Its true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dWDFDUF8s
The end of that video also shows what a low rate like that does to gameplay.
Funny, as I reported several players for cheating when that happened to me several times, and I wasnt aware of the game having such a ridiculously low tickrate.
 
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News Comments > Steam top 10
4. Re: Steam top 10 Feb 11, 2018, 14:30 Muscular Beaver
 
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 11, 2018, 13:45:
Bring on the Subnautica expansion(s)!
That would be awesome.
I am impressed its still up there.
 
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News Comments > Fortnite Battle Royale Plans
1. Re: Fortnite Battle Royale Plans Feb 11, 2018, 14:27 Muscular Beaver
 
Ugh... 20 Hz...
It needs 64 minimum, better yet 128.
Wow... if a game has that low standards you know its never going to fix its real issues.
 
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News Comments > New Fortnite User Record
3. Re: New Fortnite User Record Feb 9, 2018, 06:03 Muscular Beaver
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Feb 9, 2018, 00:26:
what the hell, 3.4 million people are playing this game? I wonder what the breakdown is between platforms, doesn't seem like any PC people I know are playing this, most haven't even heard of it.

Admittedly that's an extremely small sample, and anecdotal evidence, but still.

Also, a breakdown of free version Battle Royale, vs the paid PvE(??) version would have been informative. Is there a worthwhile single player game in there somewhere, or is just basically the BR version now?
I think its mostly console players, because it plays like ass on PC (or rather, if youre used to PC gameplay).
On console you have aim assist and the delays in the game seem "natural" and the RNG isnt as annoying due to the aim assist.
This game made obvious to me how much consoles really hurt PC gaming.
 
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News Comments > More on PUBG Versus Cheaters
13. Re: More on PUBG Versus Cheaters Feb 4, 2018, 01:05 Muscular Beaver
 
Numinar wrote on Feb 3, 2018, 20:53:
Cutter wrote on Feb 3, 2018, 12:52:
Player-run moderated servers don't have these problems.

BS. It was pretty bad back then. And if the cheaters were not being a pain (It was hard to perma ban people using pirated software and spoofed accounts) the mods themselves were being a pain.

I admit, I had a few good servers for Actionquake and Operation Flashpoint, but they took a lot of work to keep a few dozen people happy in game out of a total weekly user population of 200 or so.

This game is dealing with this: http://steamspy.com/app/578080

I don't think it would have gotten those numbers with parochial community run servers. Though ARK and a few others try, I wouldn't rate any of those experiences better than a cheater filled game of PUBG.


I played the crap out of OFP and I cant remember ever seeing a cheater in that game. Same with ArmA 2 (which only changed after DayZ).

The only bad thing about such servers were that some admins were power tripping assholes that kicked you if you even remotely criticized them and the situations when there was no admin on and cheaters wrecked havoc on the server. But you could avoid those servers. Now you just get randomly thrown into a bunch of people from all over the world, who dont even speak English and of course cheat and exploit a lot, because there is no admin who will watch them play and ban them on the spot.

I honestly hope PUBG will lose lots of players over this and their refusal of fixing big technical issues. Thats the only way they will learn. You know because they are calling their playerbase racists just because they want a region lock and dont want to deal with people they cant speak to (because they dont speak English) and have to deal with high ping people with this shitty netcode and of course having to deal with people from the most cheat infested region ever. Hell, I would have region locked Turkey and Russia in my game just because of the last reason I mentioned.
 
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News Comments > Evening Consolidation
4. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 2, 2018, 07:09 Muscular Beaver
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 1, 2018, 21:16:
I'd still pay for RDR One on pc.
There are few who wouldnt. After the massive success of GTA 5 PC they should have finally noticed. I hope. Maybe...
 
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News Comments > Star Wars Battlefront II Loot Crates Returning
6. Re: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II Loot Crates Returning Jan 30, 2018, 22:52 Muscular Beaver
 
But, but...I actually thought they'd learned their lesson! We all came together and told them what we really wanted and they listened!

- Said no one ever

=-Rigs-=

That implies that everyone always learns from their mistakes.
No. I tell a phrase like that to myself almost daily.
Funny, even my dogs learn quicker. They are pretty intelligent for dogs, but still. We are Humans, were supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on this planet.

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News Comments > Steam Top 10
10. Re: Steam Top 10 Jan 28, 2018, 19:34 Muscular Beaver
 
Saboth wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 19:30:
I wonder if the lack of coop/multi is going to be an issue at some point, I know plenty of Survival-game people who are lukewarm or passed completely on Subnautica because it's single player.

If Subnautica were multiplayer, I never would have picked it up. The whole point is the feeling of isolation and desolation. Survival games do not usually grab my interest, because in general they reward people who can play many hours a day, or have many friends who can team up on others, but I'm having a blast with this game.
Yeah, with coop I didnt actually mean a lot of people. Maybe make it a 2 or 3-player campaign. That would be a blast. More than that would destroy the game. And PvP wouldnt make sense in that setting anyway.
 
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
6. Re: Steam Top 10 Jan 28, 2018, 17:40 Muscular Beaver
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 17:33:
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 16:36:
Glad to see Subnautica at #2, even though it just left EA. Glad to know there are lots of people out there who will buy an Early Access game, otherwise it would never have been developed. Even devs gotta eat.

It would not exactly have been a huge loss if this piece of cartoony looking garbage would never have seen the light of day. I mean, who gives a deep-diving fuck?!
Is that really an issue for you?
I mean, sure its not the prettiest of graphics, even though you sometimes stop and say "beautiful" to yourself, but I didnt even notice the "cartooney" style until I consciously saw the shadow of my own character for the first time or when I saw a photo of a person on the inside of a locker.
 
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News Comments > CIG Responds to Crytek
10. Re: CIG Responds to Crytek Jan 28, 2018, 17:33 Muscular Beaver
 
How many of you have actual experience in court?
Even if you are right, it doesnt mean you win the case. Corruption, bad laws and outright dumb lawyers/judges are a huge thing. Which is why many issues dont get dragged in front of a court, because people cant afford risking a loss, even though they know they are 100% right.
 
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News Comments > PUBG Known Issues
17. Re: PUBG Known Issues Jan 28, 2018, 14:49 Muscular Beaver
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 28, 2018, 09:16:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 22:26:
VaranDragon wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 17:33:
A friend of mine gifted me this game today. Suffice to say that from about 30 rounds played, in one I had 3 kills, and the rest were slogs where I got killed in numerous ways, even when I thought I had the advantage. Its weird. I think I could like if only I knew how to play? Im not a noob when it comes to FPS games, but this is something that takes frustration to a whole new level.

Bats posted this general strategy:

My typical strategy is to land where there are just a couple or no people, loot up, then after 1st or 2nd circle only about 40 people left, and shots connect. I win a fair amount.
Exactly.
It's not your normal average free for all, go in guns a blazing.
Read a couple of strategy guides and watch a few training vids, you'll be in the top 75% in no time.

Even with all those issues I won quite often, but the situations where I died because of lag/netcode issues and other bugs were just too numerous. I could have won much more often if they werent there.

If you really think people are too stupid to adapt to different game modes/genres in games, and then blame the game instead, you dont want to understand the problem anyway.
 
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
1. Re: Steam Top 10 Jan 28, 2018, 14:46 Muscular Beaver
 
Deserved, Subnautica.
The game is just fantastic. Yeah, it has issues with its controls (conflicts when remapping controls, stupid and not very intuitive key layout) and a few game breaking bugs (vehicles vanishing completely, getting stuck on land/inside, massive stuttering), but most of those you can solve by using the console. And still that game is so good, that you can find the motivation to adapt to its issues or tolerate them.
Its also the first game where I actually love to build a base, while I didnt bother much in other games, since they would get destroyed anyway.
It could use a coop mode, though.
 
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News Comments > PUBG Known Issues
6. Re: PUBG Known Issues Jan 27, 2018, 18:13 Muscular Beaver
 
VaranDragon wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 17:33:
A friend of mine gifted me this game today. Suffice to say that from about 30 rounds played, in one I had 3 kills, and the rest were slogs where I got killed in numerous ways, even when I thought I had the advantage. Its weird. I think I could like if only I knew how to play? Im not a noob when it comes to FPS games, but this is something that takes frustration to a whole new level.
The game is riddled with lags here and there (which also change their values all the time). Network, graphic, control, UI, and even delays that were built in on purpose, like the one I linked a video about below.
That makes a lot of people lose their cool while playing, because they dont know whats happening, because they do what they do normally and that always worked, but in this game an apple is sometimes a square instead of round, and you cant see it that obviously all the time.
Some people can deal with all that. I and you obviously cant. And I honestly dont want to support a game like that that ignores and exploits issues like that.
The creator of this game calling people racists who dare talk about the Chinese problem is just the topping.
 
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News Comments > PUBG Known Issues
4. Re: PUBG Known Issues Jan 27, 2018, 17:31 Muscular Beaver
 
xXStellarDadXx wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 17:08:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 16:26:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 14:23:
At least they're being transparent?
Maybe not such a great idea in their position. They dont even mention the worst problems this game had since the beta: Lag (shitty low tickrate netcode) and random stutters/screen flashes.
Just parachuting in, seeing my char lag in the air and suddenly being on the ground or waiting half a second for a door to open or close or having the same issue when looting, is enough for me to rage quit. And then of course there are the cheaters...
Most overrated game in a long long time. And I fell for it too.

After latest patch i played maybe 20 rounds and had no lag at all...lag fixed as far as i can tell.So u may want to give game another try...
If I got a nickel every time someone claimed that...
People would be doing parties and crying out in joy if that really was the case.
Someone suggested, that that issue will never be fixed, because the netcode included in UE4 is limited in that aspect.
And then we have this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAuHb9GjmN0
Unbelievable...
 
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News Comments > PUBG Known Issues
2. Re: PUBG Known Issues Jan 27, 2018, 16:26 Muscular Beaver
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 27, 2018, 14:23:
At least they're being transparent?
Maybe not such a great idea in their position. They dont even mention the worst problems this game had since the beta: Lag (shitty low tickrate netcode) and random stutters/screen flashes.
Just parachuting in, seeing my char lag in the air and suddenly being on the ground or waiting half a second for a door to open or close or having the same issue when looting, is enough for me to rage quit. And then of course there are the cheaters...
Most overrated game in a long long time. And I fell for it too.
 
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News Comments > Sea of Thieves Beta Extended
5. Re: Sea of Thieves Beta Extended Jan 26, 2018, 16:19 Muscular Beaver
 
It really looks like a lot of fun (if you have fun people to play with). But alas, its Windows 10 Store only. Ive avoided that more than Origin or Uplay and will continue to do so.  
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News Comments > Subnautica Surfaces
15. Re: Subnautica Surfaces Jan 25, 2018, 12:54 Muscular Beaver
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 25, 2018, 11:18:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 25, 2018, 09:05:
Lord Tea wrote on Jan 25, 2018, 06:33:
Citizen of the United Shitholes of America

Wow man, it takes some balls for an American to choose a tagline like that! Thumbsup
Show some mercy, he's trying so hard to make America great again.

As a proud European I'd love to have a similar tagline for that bunch of crazies over there in Brussels.

[Sorry couldn't help it. This thread is about a really decent game and not a political discussion.]
Oh, I thought he meant to acknowledge Trumps language with that.
You know, kinda like when they cry about how hes such a bully, and then continue to bully him and his supporters with ad hominem attacks.

You're not allowed to whine about bullies and "ad homs." Remember when you said this?

You just proved exactly what I was talking about. You cause problems where there are none.
Also when I vent I prevent damage to myself. Not everyone can swallow and swallow and swallow without ever letting it out. Thats simple psychology, which I actually get explained every day by [b]my[/b] girlfriend.
Some people let it out into the face of others. So what? I can deal with an angry gamer going ballistic over BS. Who cant? Only people who are very insecure, which is a problem in their whole life and they should get professional help to get it fixed or they will have far more serious problems outside of games.

It invalidates mostly every single thing you ever say, but it especially invalidates you complaining about bullies. You spend a lot of time trying to find ways to make your own calling people the n-word or f-word online, random strangers who made the mistake of being on the same server as you, for someone then complaining about bullies.
Yeah I remember very well you putting words in my mouth. And here we are again. You trying to find hypocrisy where there is none.
I dont remember "whining" here or complaining about bullies. Your quoted text doesnt show that either. I actually only exposed hypocrisy without taking a side, except that of reason. And that obviously triggered you massively again. Why? Why are you such a defender of hypocrisy and lies?
And I am sure you still think I am a Trump fan because I expose the hypocrisy of the "morally superior".

I can only suggest to you reading what I wrote again. But you wont, or you will again read BS into it, because it will prove you wrong otherwise.

What I said doesnt invalidate anything, it actually follows the same reason, because I again mentioned people who think such words are so bad and insulting people with them is also very bad but then do it themselves. You defending people like that actually prove what I said back then. Youre just a hypocrite creating problems where there are none, thanks to your hypocrisy-laden "morality".

I never said I find words like those a huge issue, if you have a normal amount of self-confidence. Trump doesnt have an issue with that either, as much as you like to believe the opposite. He just pushes your buttons all the time, exposing your hypocrisy, and you dont even realize it.
I am just the messenger. If you would listen to what I say, and think about it, you would be able to lie much more effectively, because people wouldnt be able to prove your dishonesty by exposing your hypocrisy. But you wont. Instead youre just angry and attack the messenger, because you cant change what you are (yet you want to change the world).

And if I am wrong about you, which I actually hope, because I am always shocked when I see people like you, you really need to learn simple conversation skills, because you dont understand simple sentences. Youre so deep in denial of your own hypocrisy, that you twist words like a champion. You cant be wrong. Everyone else has to be, no matter the facts, and you even just posted the facts again and didnt even realize they are proving YOU wrong.

An honest person has consistency. You dont have it. Youre just attacking people for BS reasons all the time, betraying your own values and think you see the flaws in other people that you yourself have.
I am sorry, I wont waste more time with you on this topic, because you will twist it like you want it anyway. I think I said that before.
 
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