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Replies/2 cents
Sep 11, 2001, 22:52
Replies/2 cents Sep 11, 2001, 22:52
Sep 11, 2001, 22:52
 
Just responding to individual posts, trying to illustrate how I feel on this issue :-/

7. Yes, jump for joy.. We have a bull-headed president that barely made it through College. Sure, he'll listen to the military: But is that really a good thing? As you said the terrorists knew this and went ahead reguardless, would they really do this without a reason? Maybe the terrorists want the US to retaliate to make the US look more aggresive/evil in the eyes of those living in the middle east (seems obvious to me..)? We don't want to piss off the people that control 90% of the world's oil reserves and thus control whether we get to continue our extravegant American lifestyle's.

Not only that but we don't know even know if it truely was an outside job (remember Oklahoma.) For all we know it was another group of militants trying to up-route the government from within.


10. When you think about it the threat of a nuclear attack isn't really that great, everyone knows we have enough nukes to literally destroy the world and that we will use them if pushed hard enough (well, at least we're the only nation to have used them in the past.) Provoking a nuclear confrontation is not the goal of anyone, there are always basic issues at stake (Palestine's displacement for one, the Iraqi no-fly zone being anouther, and the list goes on.)


15. What exactly is cowardly about this attack? They sacrificed their lives for a cause they believed in, and they did so in a very direct manner (I'm not sure how you could get any more direct, short of trench warfare.)

Dropping a missile out of the back of a plane that's going faster than the speed of sound, now THAT's cowardly and believe it or not we do it every other day somewhere in the Middle East (of course, this isn't news so you never hear about it.)

Also, you seem to be jumping the gun here. Arafat (sp?) is as stunned as anyone else, and more apologetic than most, Osama Bin Laden allegedly doesn't have the resources for a mission this large (despite his millions,) and Saddam would have been more direct/up front about why it was done etc...

In other words it doesn't fit any of the Mid East "Players" profiles so you really shouldn't go blaming the palestinians, iraqies, or any other middle eastern organization at this time. Right now the only people you can blame are the men and women that run the United States government, without them the middle east would not even be in this volitile situation and, if they are indeed responsible, this situation could have been easily avoided.... Hell, a year ago at this time we were on the verge of peace in the middle east.


16. A war may or may not be a possiblity depending on who is responsible (Dubya's comment, made this very night, about not distinguishing between the accused and those who shelter them does make it a very real possibility though, at least in my opinion..)


18. Ok Mike, picture this. A larger, more powerful, yet utterly alien country decides that the Islamic people are the rightful owners of the western sea board, the midwest, and Alaska (just cause..) and tells you that you can either adopt their culture, religion, and form of government or you can move. You can't possibly tell me that you would just sit back, change your religion, your diet, your dress-code, and everything else that makes you you, just because a larger and wealthier nation tells you to.. But, even if you do believe that can you say the same for every single person in all of the United States? There are already militant groups throughout the U.S. which are displeased with the current government, just think what they'd do under the Islamic government!

I pose these questions because this is exactly what we (the UN) did to Palestine (maybe you already knew this, maybe you didn't) after WW2. Now do you see why they're fighting?


22. If Osama Bin Laden is in fact responsible and we do try to sieze or assassinate him then it is very likely that Afghanistan will not relinquish control peacefully. Even if they protest a little I could see Dubya over reacting and sending the troops in (his comment about not distinguishing between the accused and those who shelter them comes into play once again.)


35. I really don't think this is going to end with a Nuke dropping (unless there are further situations), even Dubya isn't that stupid (hopefully.) The reasons I don't see any nuking in our near future are many:

-The West Bank is very small and very close to Isreal, the US's allies.
-Arafat himself likely had nothing to do with this, thus, nuking his country would be like executing a witness.
-No one even knows who carried out the plot, by the time this information is found heads are likely to have cooled off.
-Dubya would not be backed by enough of America to make it worth it (politically.)
-The International community would not support such an action.

There are more reasons, but these are some of (in my opinion) the biggies.


37. The US's missiles have missed: hit schools, hospitals and other such innocent buildings. This is known as collateral damage and is considered common place in most American air strikes, missile bombardments, and other military operations, who are the cowards now (we've even coined a phrase)?


38. Smuggling a weapon onto an airplane (especially within the USA) is a very difficult thing to do, then there's the fact that each plane hi-jacked was a coast to coast flight that never made it across the coast (thus having lots of extra fuel.) The planes arrived at the WTC within very close proximity (time wise) to one another. If the 2nd plane had taken off 5 minutes earlier I'm willing to bet that the 2 WTC buildings would have gone down much faster and the casualties would have been much higher, this deep a strategy reflects a fair amount of planning, especially if those involved were foreigners (getting into the US and with a weapon, or purchasing a weapon while not a legal resident is something that is fairly hard to do.) In my opinion, there was a great deal of planning that went into this operation. Not only that but they almost definately had to teach of their men to fly (in case there were casualties.)


39. If by "political leverage" you mean pissing people off, then you're correct. The United States already have military and economic advantages, it's not a country that's short of "political leverage." It's also not short of enemies, or people willing to become enemies if provoked. Todays situation is a wonderful example of what happens when we provoke a nation a little too far. How would a missile shield prevent this kind of situation? By making people madder? Intimidating them? <sarcasm>Great plan, reverse psychology has always worked flawlessly.</sarcasm>

What I'm trying to show to you is that the US cannot make itself invincibile, it just has to understand that it has to be nice. Being nice, giving people what they want, is not nearly as difficult at preventing that which cannot be prevented. What are we defending if we become a nation whos only goal is to become invincible?


40. Please don't pretend we haven't killed just as many innocent civilians as the next guy. The United States has killed more people than any other nation or organization, and all these people weren't soldiers (kyoto, nagasaki..)


42. Osama Bin Laden does not speak english, so why would he use the english alphabet to establish an incredibly vague reason to destroy the US's economic center? His name doesn't even have the same number of characters in his language as it does in ours.


46. Perhaps the only ones that knew of the plot were on the planes and no longer have the breath to take credit for their actions. The act was terrible, but they did accomplish their goal (whatever it may be.) My guess is that they wanted to stir up the US, get them to figure out who they were, what their cause was, and thus get the greatest amount of plubicity ever concieved of :-/ .


47. Listen to yourself, you have nothing on your mind but destroying all of palestine, reguardless of the loss of civilian casualties! You're no better than the men who destroyed the WTC, in fact, I think you're far worse as you try to justify your actions as retaliation (when in fact that is no doubt why the did what they did!)


---addressed the cowardly business enough---


67. And how would you go about killing them? They're already dead, we have no idea who there leaders are, where they came from or what they look like! Are we jsut going to carpet bomb the middle east and hope those responsible were killed? What if it was an attack from within our own borders? We must be patient and extract those involved individually rather than in massive, sloppy counter-attacks.


72. So it's ok for us to carpet bomb them, killing 100's of thousands of citizens, but one of their people decides we've done a great injustice against them and retaliates and suddenly they're a criminal. What's the difference between them and us if we just hit back?





Ok, I'm too tried to read more, but I think I've covered all my opinions on the major issues of this disaster. Please, don't misunderstand me and assume I have no feeling of saddness or loss towards those who lost their loved ones today. I do not believe that whoever was responsible did the right thing, I just think that this kind of act was innevitable and that we (the US) did nothing (especially in the last year) to try and calm/correct the situation, we deserved what we got because of our hands-off policy towards the middle east (at least when it came to peace talks, bombing is a different matter entirely..)

Well, these are my views...

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Morans : \
Sep 8, 2001, 01:23
87.
Morans : \ Sep 8, 2001, 01:23
Sep 8, 2001, 01:23
 
I seriously can't believe any of you think this is an even remotely good thing. Soon the software/OS industry will be just like the sound card industry; stagnent (sp). There will cease to be innovation, invention, or any creativity what so ever. Progress will cease and we will be forced to do the bidding, so to speak, of these corporate giants. Buying what the tell us to, using what they tell us to, and therefore becoming what they tell us to.

Soon it will be Microsoft and AOL/Time Warner telling us what to buy, what to do, what to think and where to go (I am, of course, going to the extreme, but this is what, IMHO, it really boils down to.)

Now you may ask, "That's not so different from what it's like today, a few companies take over the government/country.. what's the big deal?"

Well, I'm going to tell you:
When a government passes a law it's done by people we've elected. This is as close as we can come to voting on each and every law ourselves (which would be far to time consuming to actually be done.) But, when a company makes a decision it does not (except when considering how to best rip us off) factor in us, the people that decision will affect. The only promise the CEO of that company has made is that he'll get deeper into the "black" than the last guy did, how the hell does that help us?

Sure, once in a while we get a dumb ass of a president (current company included, of course) but he or she is only around for 4 years: CEO's stick around for 20+ and never have to worry about re-election until they stop making money (which is usually when he or she starts to benefit us more, and the company less.)

Oh well... things could be worse.. maybe..
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Re: Hmmmmm.
Sep 5, 2001, 20:06
14.
Re: Hmmmmm. Sep 5, 2001, 20:06
Sep 5, 2001, 20:06
 
The game's intentionally cliched, the one liners and fairly steriotypical characters were all intentional

As for your comments about the game being too easy/unrealistic well I've found this to be quite untrue. Half-Life is an unrealistic game, Max Payne is (relatively) realistic, especially when it comes to Max's health.. 1 shot gun blast to the head and you're dead (or very close.) At least this has been my experience and I've played through the game thrice : \

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Re: Americans, wake up !
Sep 3, 2001, 02:21
Re: Americans, wake up ! Sep 3, 2001, 02:21
Sep 3, 2001, 02:21
 
in reply to 135/134:
Yeah, right winger's aren't that bright (they got Dubya into office they can't be too smart )

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132.
 
Oh, and a few more things...
Sep 3, 2001, 00:54
Oh, and a few more things... Sep 3, 2001, 00:54
Sep 3, 2001, 00:54
 
1. Someone that dislikes America is not racist, they have a right to question/defy it especially if they aren't a citizen of it. If someone does not like the country many of us live in then (if this is your thing) convince them otherwise. However, IMHO there are a lot of things wrong with this country (this little scandal included.)

2. Quit posting anonymously ya jerks, come out and show your true colours...

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131.
 
frederickson thou art a moron.
Sep 3, 2001, 00:52
frederickson thou art a moron. Sep 3, 2001, 00:52
Sep 3, 2001, 00:52
 
Several times in your posts you pointed out minorities as the trouble makers in this mixing pot we call "America." I also got the impression that you were just joking, trying to light someone's fuse/set them off. You are (whether joking or not) the stupidest person I have ever had the misfortune of reading .


As for the rest of you guys (well, not all of you), blaming the liberals and so on well all I can say is you've been brainwashed by the NRA. Well, I guess that's not all i can say to ya:

There is no government consipiracy to take away your firearms and storm your house with government death troopers all the while playing the Nazi anthem on loud speakers. The NRA is nothing but a marketing strategy adapted by gun manufacturers throughout the USA, the gun was getting a bad image so they have tried to polish it up. The fact that you dumb shits are worried about losing your "right" is further testament to your own stupidity. Why do you need a gun, to protect yourself? (Sorry, I'm gonna pull out a statistic here ) 99.9% of all gun users never use their gun to prevent a crime and more often than not a gun in the house is used on no one but the owner, thus making it redundant, useless, and down right stupid to own a gun. The only time it will kill someone is when your kids find it and start playing with it, and it will never help protect your family (I can virtually guarentee you that.)

I'm no fan of censorship but comparing the right to bear arms to the right to express yourself is the stupidest thing I've ever read in my life...

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d2 mmorpg
Aug 30, 2001, 05:17
26.
d2 mmorpg Aug 30, 2001, 05:17
Aug 30, 2001, 05:17
 
I for one would be incredibly uninterested in a d2 mmorpg. Why would i go for the fillingless cracker that is diablo 2 (don't get me wrong, i play it, but not because (obivously) of its depth and IMHO depth is something a mmorpg) when I can go for the double stuff oreo that is Eve or Darkage of Camelot or any number of the other upcoming mmorpgs..

If blizzard doesn't realize this then they're pretty screwed, not all of their fans are so hardcore that they buy everything blizzard pops out, especially when you have to pay to play : \

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My 2 cents.. at 4 am
Aug 30, 2001, 05:10
73.
My 2 cents.. at 4 am Aug 30, 2001, 05:10
Aug 30, 2001, 05:10
 
Well maybe it's the lack of sleep talkin or maybe its the fact that I'm stupid, either way though I'm a little creeped out by this article. No, its not that I think that all the cute little kiddies are becoming cute little killers or anything like that, it's not because the federal government is trying to compensate for someones poor judgement/parenting (althought I don't agree with "them" doin that either). I'm creeped out by this article because the federal government (those who influence them are the same thing in the end, aren't they?) is trying to put a hault to creativity. I learned a lot as a youngster fiddlin around with programs like smax, ps pro, etc. and to deprive people of these privledges and restrict what they can make/what they can't is just wrong. Why should these guys tell me that my kid can't use worldcraft? There is no way to prevent him from making only "good" things (rather than morally wrong things..) other than to completetly ban the use of the program to all minors..... and to this i say phooey.

Just my 2 cents..

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Re: No subject
Aug 30, 2001, 04:52
Re: No subject Aug 30, 2001, 04:52
Aug 30, 2001, 04:52
 
the mane man, thou art a moron:

A dev team can only grow so large, if you want a game to be a single experience rather than a bunch of fairly cool sequences smooshed together with no real theme then you can choc your dev team full o' as many mappers as you want, same goes for modelers... But if you want to make a game that is supposed to be better than Half-life, better than the game that many consider to be the best ever you can't just make as many gigantic maps as you possible can and then stick them together, you have to have a smaller team that can communicate easily and build off of each other's ideas.

Sorry for any typos, btw.. im tired as all hell

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1.
 
what the devil...
Aug 25, 2001, 17:57
1.
what the devil... Aug 25, 2001, 17:57
Aug 25, 2001, 17:57
 
Why do they call it MOD, mod is short for modification, not some obscure acronym... bleh...

just a small rant : \

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45.
 
Re: No subject
Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
45.
Re: No subject Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
Aug 23, 2001, 23:14
 
I'm thinkin' the problem these scientists are having is that they're using older, simpler, and consoler (i don't think thats a word, but you get the point) games that are too basic to make the mind work.

Set these subjects (the one with all the brain damage ) up with Sam and Max, BG 1 or 2, Planescape, or any number of deeper games and I'd bet you'd see an improvement

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Re: hmm
Aug 23, 2001, 23:09
47.
Re: hmm Aug 23, 2001, 23:09
Aug 23, 2001, 23:09
 
Snide: Tsk, it's not like blue's is some elite bastion of the pc gaming community. Anyone can come here even 14 year olds, so please, when they make a stupid argument pick apart their points rather than their language

(I do however, agree with you on most of your points )

Half-life 2 will be a great game, and it will be revolutionary, with tons of great changes that add to the depth of the FPS. The only worry I have is that valve won't realize the great leaps and bounds the fps genre has taken since HL was released (SS2, Deus Ex, and to a lesser extent SOF) and won't augment the ol' HL forumula accordingly, but I have faith that they will (the media/fans have been puting on the pressure in the forums/articles, valve would have to be blind to miss it)

anyway, that's my bit on HL 2.. Doubt it ocmes out in 2002, though..

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Re: No subject
Aug 16, 2001, 04:24
10.
Re: No subject Aug 16, 2001, 04:24
Aug 16, 2001, 04:24
 
mb its laggy because its a test and not a demo? and mb you're a stupid newbie because you don't get that mb?

Personally i haven't even played it yet but since its a test I'm not expecting anything that great (HL's taken 2 years to get to its current netcode) so if ur smart you expect lag mb...

P.S. - I'm all for judging demos, but tests are just that, tests... if you find a problem/have a complaint email the company.. dont just bitch

edit was a typo..


This comment was edited on Aug 16, 04:25.
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14.
 
what a bummer..
Aug 14, 2001, 02:34
14.
what a bummer.. Aug 14, 2001, 02:34
Aug 14, 2001, 02:34
 
man.. i remember playing the incredible machine on my old 486... seein these guys go is really sad, they've been along forever

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