Nice job totally ignoring my damning quotes from their privacy policy, but anyway:
Like I said, you blame the publisher, that's fine. I don't share that opinion.
I told you, I'm fucking looking at it right now. It IS idle. As time goes on it does nothing but release resources. Since my last post it's dropped to 3.5 megs of ram, still hasn't used a cycle, and I've sent nothing to Valve since I checked their website out making my last post.
If you've got some fuckin EVIDENCE post the logs, otherwise your word is totally worthless.
No, but unlike you I have actually studied it enough from a technical perspective to know that it is.
Studied it? It's a fuckin pseud-.net front end providing a server browser and a web interface. This isn't something one can study, it's a simple application.
My point is that consumers already have web browsers.
So Valve should just dump its patches on us from some ftp? Because all the other companies do that for their demos and patches.. right.. I forgot..
Oh... wait...
Steam does nothing, but allow Valve to easily collect data from its customers every time they want to play their games and try to sell the additional crapware on Steam to them.
Steam provides functionality that users could obviously get from other sources, but it's convenient and allows Valve to gather data it uses to make better products. No shit the only reason Valve made it was so they could have this type of flexiblity, but given their support record (which you continue to ignore) it's reasonable to trust them.
See, there you go again from one extreme to another. Either Valve is collecting everything or Valve is collecting nothing. Just because I strongly think based upon the evidence that Valve is collecting more data than it has publicly disclosed doesn't mean that I think that Valve is collecting anything and everything. However, it also certainly doesn't mean that what I believe Valve is collecting is justified.
W T F are you talking about? I sarcastically SUGGESTED that valve could collect everything, in reallity they're collecting some things which they deem relevant to their business practices. You're the nutball who goes on about how they're collecting all sorts of private info and dolling it out to clients all over the fuckin globe.
I never said Valve wasn't collecting data. I KNOW valve is collecting data. I said that data was relevant to their function as a game company, and it fucking is! There's no denying that!
Valve's privacy policy allows the sharing of collected information with its "partners" which could be any company which contracts to do business with Valve.
Ah, nice. A fact.. something other than your rambling bullshit. Here's the section of the agreement I believe you're refering to:
Valve may allow third parties performing services under contract with Valve to access stored information but such access shall only be to the extent necessary to provide those services. In those instances, the third party will be bound by the terms of this privacy policy.
That's what you're so fucking concerned about? The fact that Valve outsources? I work at a god damn software company that handles this type of information, if we leak it our balls are on the god damn wall...
All of Valve's patches for its older games post Steam have been due to problems with Steam. So, that is certainly nothing above and beyond what Valve should do since it replaced all of its older games with Steam versions.
Bwhahah. The fact that Valve even set up a registration system when WON was canned is a god damned blessing. When Bungie sold out to MS the Myth communities had to fucking HACK their way back on-line, with no official dev support. Good luck doing that with an EA game...
Valve has no obligation to support a game this fucking hold. None. But they do, because that kind of effort is an asset to their cause and they realize it. And yet you chastise them for not being fuckin dipshits like the rest of the industry, nice job Riley...
Steam has popup ad banners when launched
Disabled.
small ad banner on the download window
Doesn't exist.. Unless you're talkin about the banner which tells you the server you're downloading from, in which case you're a tool.
Gamespy can't collect the same data unless it is integrated into the game to do so. With most games it isn't. Gamespy Arcade does collect and track some useage statistics of its users in terms of how many times they have frequently a game's lobby on the system, but that is trivial compared to the types of data that can be gathered from users during gameplay and associated with purchase and demographic information that Steam can collect.
So it's trivial because it's not Valve doing it, or because there's an actual difference between what Gamespy does and what Valve does? I'm guessing the difference you're siting is fucking purely philosophical and/or some possibility you've culled up from the depths of your 'brain.'
Enough of this shit, I'm sick of your page long factless posts. You mentioned a section of their privacy policy that you had a problem with ONCE, and then in the vaguest of terms.
Compare their policy line by line with every other on the internet and there's ZERO fuckin difference. Welcome ot the information age, buddy, information is free and what you do on the Internet will never be private. As for Valve's single player logging, that stuffi s collected ANONYMOUSLY (FROM THEIR POLICY: ""Aggregate information" is information that describes the habits, usage patterns, and demographics of users as a group
but does not describe or reveal the identity of any particular user." So wtf is your problem?
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