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EA announces plans for a PC edition of Burnout Paradise, the open world racing game named after a head shop:

Criterion Games, a studio of Electronic Arts, today announced that the award-winning driving game Burnout Paradise is being rebuilt specifically for the PC. Burnout Paradise will be the first Burnout title ever made for the PC, customized with expanded multiplayer, enhanced online features, and community driven content. Originally released for the PLAYSTATION 3 computer entertainment system and Xbox 360 videogame and entertainment system, Burnout Paradise has won over 55 awards worldwide. Burnout Paradise delivers an open-world environment built for intense speed, excitement and exploration and sets a new standard in the seamless transition from single-player offline to social online gameplay.

Burnout Paradise for the PC will combine all the open world racing, intense speed and action of the original game with new gameplay for the PC version.

Gamers can tune into a live webcast at http://criteriongames.com at 8:00 AM PST on Friday, May 9 for more details on this announcement. For more information about Burnout Paradise, please visit http://criteriongames.com

Burnout Paradise for the PC has not been rated by the ESRB or PEGI.

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32.	Re: Awesome	May 10, 13:43	Dagok
	Awww aren't you clever. Fact is you are an idiot that is jumping to conclusions about a game without having even tried it. There is a reason that Burnout Paradise is popular, and has nothing to do with the pain of a 4 in nail up your nose. ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/


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31.	Re: Awesome	May 10, 04:35	Lorcin
	so why the fuck are you saying it doesn't work in an open city environment without having even played it? Because I'm smart enough to marry burnout's gameplay and an open city enviroment in my mind and know it's not a very good idea. Strangely I've never tried pushing a 4 inch nail up my nose but I know that's not for me either. ========================================================== Ultimate geek nightmare? It's not Darth Vader telling you his your father. It's Derek Smart.


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30.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 23:51	Dagok
	Tracks aren't carved out of the city in Burnout Paradise. You start at point A and you have to get to point B. It's entirely up to you which roads you take. Take a wrong turn you could lose precious time, or you could find a short cut that gets you ahead of the pack. And yes, the biggest complaint is that you cannot restart races. It's a PITA, but not the end of the world either. ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/ This message was edited at May 9, 23:53.


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29.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 22:50	Jerykk
	These open world games may sould great on paper but in reality the openess is only to make the player drive for a long time between races thereby massively increasing the gametime. All the NFS games since Underground 2 have let you jump into races immediately. You don't have to drive around and explore at all. Underground 2 rewarded exploration with bonus parts, secret races, etc, but they were by no means mandatory. If Burnout Paradise doesn't have such an option, then yes, it is a poor design choice. However, they may add the option to the PC version. However, I do agree that individual, unique tracks are far more enjoyable than generic tracks carved out of a big city. Compare NFS: Porsche Unleashed to anything that came after and you'll get the point.


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28.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 21:41	Dagok
	With paradise now promising an "open" world I think I'll skip it and play the earlier ones instead. Basically if they want a racer they should build one - if they want a city roamer then burnout does NOT fit. K, you pretty much said you haven't even tried the game...so why the fuck are you saying it doesn't work in an open city environment without having even played it? ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/


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27.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 20:36	Lorcin
	Hmm this thread has been bugging me and I think it's purely the idea of burnout in an open enviroment that is the problem. Seriously with no shadow of a doubt I LOVE burnout 1 and 2; I even bought them both on two different consoles (not at the same time). Burnout Dominator leaves me completely cold for some reason on both PS2 and PSP - it might be the inclusion of two many American muscles cars. With paradise now promising an "open" world I think I'll skip it and play the earlier ones instead. BTW to the people who think that open city with no pedestrians is fun - seriously what would you rather play, Test Drive Unlimited or GTA. If you have a city everyone will want to interact with that city and therefore it's denizens (case in point freelancer - I would have loved to get more of a feel for the basses/planets rather then what amounted to the worst menu system in history). When you remove the people from a city what are really left with is a race track designed by 3 year olds. "Your guess is as good as mine where we're going - little tommy drew this section of earth." Basically if they want a racer they should build one - if they want a city roamer then burnout does NOT fit. I find test drive unlimited very bland and it suffers from the massive problem the recent NFS games have; namely a huge dose of filler. These open world games may sould great on paper but in reality the openess is only to make the player drive for a long time between races thereby massively increasing the gametime. EDIT: Can't you just imagine Jack Thompson on this btw? "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury this game from it's very name wishes to BURN OUT PARADISE. 'Tis the work of the devil and should be banned forthwith. This message was edited at May 9, 20:41.


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26.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 20:30	wallace321
	I'm afraid if Microsoft doesn't somehow get Criterion to include cross platform play for this, Live for Windows is deader than elvis. Afterall, it isn't a shooter so the PC gamers shouldn't have an unfair advantage.


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25.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 20:01	Jerykk
	The comparison to GTA's racing is perfectly valid. Not for hardcore racing, but both offer a big city to speed around in. Like I said though, particularily IV "isn't so good in that respect, favouring instead other elements of it's gameplay". I think a far better comparison would be to NFS: Underground 1 & 2, Most Wanted, Carbon, Midnight Club, etc.


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24.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 19:47	DG
	Dagok, the ZP review states everything that is wrong with BP and he get's them dead-on. Like every review I've read, he says some other stuff I'm less inclined to agree with, but I figured people would be able to evaluate those points themselves easily even without having played the game. Point B comes from valid criticism, it's no so much that learning the track can be tricky, but that it's the only troublesome part! There was only a couple of races that took me more than 1 try when you don't count the missed turns, therefore missing turns quickly becomes the prime irritation in the game. FWIW, I do think BP would have been significantly better with one or two Monaco type events which is pure racing and you have a set track to experience the game. If just for variety. The comparison to GTA's racing is perfectly valid. Not for hardcore racing, but both offer a big city to speed around in. Like I said though, particularily IV "isn't so good in that respect, favouring instead other elements of it's gameplay".


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23.	Re: No subject	May 9, 18:45	HoSpanky
	if this shows up on Steam, I may have a hard time resisting it. Since it focuses on online play, I'm thinking EA may opt for the more standard cd-key copy protection. The only reason Mass Effect has such ridiculous measures is because it's a single-player game, meaning you could physically disconnect the computer from web access for the entire time you played the game, and miss out on NOTHING because of it. You can't do the same with BP, because the game is VERY heavily focused on online play. But knowing EA, they'll have it in there anyway.


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22.	No subject	May 9, 18:30	Slippery Jim
	Always glad to hear of a title for the PC


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21.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 15:44	Jerykk
	M, AO...whatever, difference between the two is 17+ and 18+. The difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old? Not much. The difference is that AO is an automatic ban from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft as well as all the major retailers. As for "absolutely no gain in gameplay," I disagree. Running over people and seeing their bodies fly through the air with realistic ragdolls is always entertaining. Hell, you could even use pedestrians as weapons. Hit one, send him flying into the air, only to crash onto the windshield of the driver behind you, causing him to veer off the road and into a semi truck heading in the opposite direction. My point was it would get an adult rating...an M (17+) is an adult rating. I thought 21 was the age where you are officially considered an adult... I kid, I kid. This message was edited at May 9, 15:48.


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20.	Re: No subject	May 9, 15:42	Dagok
	jesus christ, it's semantics. My point was it would get an adult rating...an M (17+) is an adult rating. Can we move on from the rating and discuss some actual valid topics rather than my poor use of "Adults Only"? ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/


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19.	No subject	May 9, 15:28	Wilson
	It's a valid point that adding person collisions to Burnout wouldn't really enhance the gameplay they're going for. However, the difference between "M" and "AO" is not trivial. From what I've seen, important retailers (i.e. Walmart) won't even consider carrying an AO game. An AO rating is essentially blacklisting a game and carries a stigma that nobody really wants to bear.


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18.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 15:25	Dagok
	M, AO...whatever, difference between the two is 17+ and 18+. The difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old? Not much. Nice of you to focus on semantics and not any of the actual valid points. Point is it would no longer be an Everyone rating and would limit their target audience for absolutely no gain in gameplay. ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/


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17.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 15:08	Jerykk
	He mentions that there are no people in the game...if there were people in the game with the violent crashes, the game would get an Adult Only rating. Nonsense. It would get an "M" unless you could run over children and pregnant women. Speaking of which, I think Burnout's damage model would work really well in a Carmageddon game... hint hint. His reviews are funny, but he rarely states anything that's actually good about the games, and he always just takes certain points and stretches them as much as he can to make them humorous. Yahtzee's reviews lost all credibility when he called The Witcher too complicated.


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16.	Re: Just Remember	May 9, 14:54	Old_Geezer
	Damn! I was looking forward to trying this out on the PC, but I will most certainly NEVER buy a game that requires online activation every 10 freaking days and a maximum of 3 installations before I need to phone someone to beg permission to install a 4th time. If all EA games are going to use the same outrageous and ultimately worthless copy-protection as Mass Effect, then screw-you EA...you suck AND blow. Considering that EA was the publisher of Crysis, it's pretty safe to say that my principles are going to cost me the enjoyment of plenty of good games in the future, but these corporate cockroaches are taking the concept of punishing/annoying the paying customer while pirates enjoy a hassle-free experience (and they ALWAYS will) to an all new level of stupidity. With broadband getting faster and faster, and online commerce getting easier and easier, I hope the day comes soon when all developers tell those stupid clueless corporate assholes to go to hell and start selling games exclusively online by download and mail, bypassing the idiot publishers altogether. Heck, maybe games-retailers like EB can start carrying plastic prepay cards for share-it and the like so gamers can order online without using a credit card. Anything has to be better than the direction those publishing weasels like EA are taking PC gaming. This message was edited at May 9, 14:57.


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15.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 14:16	Dagok
	Zero Punctuation 1 nails what's wrong with it* A friend of mine said the same thing, and this is what I had to say to him about that. a) He mentions that there are no people in the game...if there were people in the game with the violent crashes, the game would get an Adult Only rating. Not many racing games have people other than static sprites for crowds, and sometime don't even have drivers. How this makes the game any worse because there are no people is beyond me, as it's a RACING game. b) It's a high speed action racing game in an open city...so ya sometimes it's going to be hard to tell where to turn at times. It's called learning the city and which routes work best, just like you would have to learn the courses on any racing game to be successful. There are lots of ways to get from point A to point B, with even more shortcuts available. If someone wants a linear track...there are dozens of other games to choose from. c) Comparing it to Grand Theft Auto series? What the fuck? 2 completely different games. The comparison shouldn't even be made. d) 3rd person camera view...uhh it's the same as any other racing game. But you also have a bumper cam to choose from...which is what I use. His reviews are funny, but he rarely states anything that's actually good about the games, and he always just takes certain points and stretches them as much as he can to make them humorous. Again, it's funny...but not accurate, or worthy of taking as a legitimate review to base a decision on. PS: GRID...now that is a gorgeous racing game. Graphics are top notch and run very fluid. ---------------------------------------------------- Grand Theft Auto IV.....what else is there? PSN ID= Puscifer73 "Blues News" Steam Community... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bluesnews/ This message was edited at May 9, 14:18.


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14.	Re: Awesome	May 9, 13:47	DG
	I was surprised to really enjoy this on the 360. It's not perfect (Zero Punctuation 1 nails what's wrong with it) but it is a lot of fun and there's a lot to it for a racing game. I'm uncertain whether I'll pick it up again, I suspect I will as GTA IV isn't so good in that respect, favouring instead other elements of it's gameplay. Graphics were surprisingly good too, they were the reasons why I was initially less impressed with GTAIV than the reviewer's hype as BP is much cleaner, crisper, smoother and has much better draw distance. In fairness GTA IV has a lot* more happening onscreen, focuses more on the lighting etc, and in truth is probably technically better and more suited to that game. *1 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/3016-Zero-Punctuation-Burnout-Paradise


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13.	Awesome	May 9, 13:23	Bludd
	I've wanted Burnout for PC for a long, long time.


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