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15. No subject Oct 2, 2012, 17:50 Creston
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Sep 29, 2012, 11:29:
All done.
While I was putting it together between Amazon and NewEgg, I had a 65.00 special price SSD from NewEgg on there and they sold out - damn. Added a similar one with great performance anyway.

Mobo: 181.98
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H

CPU: 197.00
i-5 2500k

CPU Cooler: 64.99
CORSAIR CWCH60

GPU: 299.00
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 660 Ti WINDFORCE 2X OC Edition GV-N66TOC-2GD

Hard Drives: 290.96
1x Kingston HyperX SH100S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III
2x WD 2TB Green OEM drives

PSU: 49.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular

Memory: 70.54
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

Case: 60.24
Cooler Master HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1)

CD/DVD/BR: 45.00
LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Internal 12X Blu-ray

Came to about $1260.
Not bad.


Looks good to me.

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14. No subject Oct 2, 2012, 12:20 xXBatmanXx
 
Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:51:
Always fun to upgrade. If I was you I'd just keep using that Corsair HX620, it's a rebadged Seasonic and they make kickass PSUs. OCZ bought PC Power and Cooling but never seemed to do anything with them, they've been rebadging cheap Sirtec and ED Group PSUs for eons. OCZ in general is kind of a dodgy company, they were caught using cheap grade NAND awhile ago and their Sandforce SSDs were nothing short of nightmare.

Have fun with the build, I love putting together a new machine.

Well, the price reflects that, and I took it into consideration. I wanted a Corsair, but the price is double, and right now I cut a few corners. Oh well. WOrse case scenario, I can use my 620 if it craps out and order a better one.

Super excited since I am not using left over parts or parting out my current machine. Fresh build, new install, always fun. Also want to run them side by side and run tests, etc.
 
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13. No subject Oct 1, 2012, 13:51 Verno
 
Always fun to upgrade. If I was you I'd just keep using that Corsair HX620, it's a rebadged Seasonic and they make kickass PSUs. OCZ bought PC Power and Cooling but never seemed to do anything with them, they've been rebadging cheap Sirtec and ED Group PSUs for eons. OCZ in general is kind of a dodgy company, they were caught using cheap grade NAND awhile ago and their Sandforce SSDs were nothing short of nightmare.

Have fun with the build, I love putting together a new machine.
 
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12. No subject Oct 1, 2012, 13:36 descender
 
Maybe a SLI upgrade down the road and add in an i-7.

If you are looking at extending the "lifetime" of the machine then the larger PSU's would give you room to grow later, just in case video cards double in power consumption again in 2 years

Chalk up another point for the Corsair Modular PSU's. Love em. HAF 930 is a sweet case too.
 
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11. No subject Sep 30, 2012, 10:43 Dades
 
Good luck!  
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10. No subject Sep 30, 2012, 06:22 xXBatmanXx
 
Dades wrote on Sep 30, 2012, 02:22:
Current OCZ power supplies are very low rated for reliability, you might want to get a Corsair modular one or really any other quality name brand. In general its better to spend a bit on a decent power supply, its the one component that can affect every other one in your system. I'd sub out the Kingston HyperX for a Crucial M4 as well, the M4 is very mature and well backed by firmware updates. Build looks good otherwise, enjoy your new rig.

Was told the opposite on both by someone else.
Oh well, had to make a decision, and ratings and reviews is what got me those 2. I prefer Corsair Professional PSU, as I have an HX620 in my current rig, but oh well. Also, tests on the M4 compared to the HyperX - there is no contest. HyperX has better stats across the board.

Appreciate all the feedback. Pretty excited to get the parts on Monday/Tuesday. Been a while since I built one, but it is like riding a bike. Done it a million times. heheheheh
 
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9. No subject Sep 30, 2012, 02:22 Dades
 
Current OCZ power supplies are very low rated for reliability, you might want to get a Corsair modular one or really any other quality name brand. In general its better to spend a bit on a decent power supply, its the one component that can affect every other one in your system. I'd sub out the Kingston HyperX for a Crucial M4 as well, the M4 is very mature and well backed by firmware updates. Build looks good otherwise, enjoy your new rig.  
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8. No subject Sep 29, 2012, 12:51 xXBatmanXx
 
descender wrote on Sep 29, 2012, 12:44:
Wow, I would never trust green drives... especially with 4TB worth of data. A 600w power supply also seems... low...

Otherwise.. This machine is complete overkill, half of this could run every current game maxxed out.

You will survive the first wave of "new console games" without a doubt.

Noted.

My current rig runs ALMOST all games maxxed and is 6 years old. I plan on getting the same run time for this rig. Maybe a SLI upgrade down the road and add in an i-7.

Drive is a drive is a drive. If it dies, nothing important will be on the drive. I have 2 external drives and a data machine. I have lots of backup drives.

600w is more than enough. Ran through a couple analyzers and it is fine. See previous post by jim.

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7. No subject Sep 29, 2012, 12:44 descender
 
Wow, I would never trust green drives... especially with 4TB worth of data. A 600w power supply also seems... low...

Otherwise.. This machine is complete overkill, half of this could run every current game maxxed out.

You will survive the first wave of "new console games" without a doubt.
 
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6. No subject Sep 29, 2012, 11:29 xXBatmanXx
 
All done.
While I was putting it together between Amazon and NewEgg, I had a 65.00 special price SSD from NewEgg on there and they sold out - damn. Added a similar one with great performance anyway.

Mobo: 181.98
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H

CPU: 197.00
i-5 2500k

CPU Cooler: 64.99
CORSAIR CWCH60

GPU: 299.00
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 660 Ti WINDFORCE 2X OC Edition GV-N66TOC-2GD

Hard Drives: 290.96
1x Kingston HyperX SH100S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III
2x WD 2TB Green OEM drives

PSU: 49.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular

Memory: 70.54
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

Case: 60.24
Cooler Master HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1)

CD/DVD/BR: 45.00
LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Internal 12X Blu-ray

Came to about $1260.
Not bad.

 
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5. Re: Oct 2012 Rig Build Sep 28, 2012, 22:45 jimnms
 
I agree that an i5 would be better for gaming and overclocking and is cheaper. You shouldn't need to overclock it as my system with a first gen i5 750 at the stock 2.66GHz with a GTX 470 GPU can run every game I have maxed out. I did play with overclocking when I got it and I could take it up to 4.2GHz but it ran a bit hot. Any higher and it started to get errors on stress tests. I put it back to stock speeds and left it there since nothing has challenged it.

When you say no liquid cooling, are you ruling out coolers like the Corsair Hydro series? If so I think think you should really reconsider. I have the H50 and it is absolutely silent. I will never go back to the old heatsink and fan as long as these are around. It is a sealed system, so you don't have to worry about coolant and routing tubes. The fan and radiator mount where the rear fan goes, so there's no gigantic heatsink and fan mounted over the CPU to get in the way of other components.

I'm not partial to any particular mobo manufacturer, although my last three systems have had ASUS boards. I usually don't start researching and checking reviews on this stuff until I start planning a build.

For RAM, just stick with the good brands, and if you're overclocking get RAM that will run at the speeds you plan to run at. Go with 8GB minimum, but since you've got a nice budget why not go for 16GB. I originally had 4GB, but bought the 8GB on sale. My original 4GB kit is OCZ and the 8GB is Corsair. I ran with the 8GB for a week or so to test since I wasn't sure if the old RAM would play nice with the new RAM since they were different brand and timings. Even with 8GB it did hit the swap file with some games, but I was able to run both giving me 12GB and Windows has never touched the swap file since.

Going with a higher rated PSU won't use more electricity. I remember reading an article a while back that tested a bunch 80+ PSU's and found that PSU's are most efficient when run at about 50%. Search for a power supply calculator and see what you need. If your system needs 400 Watts, get an 800 Watt PSU. It will also leave room for expansion if you want to go SLI later. I have an 1100 Watt PSU, which IS overkill, but I won it in an online draw thingy. My UPS has a front display that can show power consumption and the power consumption was no different after putting in the 1100W PSU than the 650W it replaced. The 80+ cert if I remember just means that a PSU is 80% or greater efficient at 20% and higher loads.

One thing to keep in mind is modular power supplies are longer than regular ones. It shouldn't be an issue since they are more common now, but two builds ago I bought a modular PSU and had a hell of a time getting it in the case. My current case is easy to swap out. It has a plate on the back that you unscrew, attach to the PSU and slide in from the back then screw the plate back on to the case.

Personally I wouldn't even go with an SSD, IMO the price just isn't worth saving a few seconds on boot/load times. But it's your budget, if you have the money and think it's worth it, go for it.
 
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4. No subject Sep 28, 2012, 15:01 xXBatmanXx
 
Thanks Creston. Was going to get a hold of you anyway.
Think I will end up with a mixture of my stuff and yours.
Need to do more homework on the RAM and SSDs.

Probably going to go with that CPU, as the MOBO I like allows for a future upgrade. Only about a 200 dollar diff, and if I get a 660Ti I can get a free extra copy of BL2 I can trade.
 
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3. Re: Oct 2012 Rig Build Sep 28, 2012, 14:24 Creston
 
1500 to 2 grand? Jeez, you can build a fucking rocket ship for that.

Quite a few of your components are way too expensive, tbh. You can get cheaper ones that will only affect your performance by 1 or 2%.

Let's start with the processor. i7 is terrible, terrible overkill. Get the i5-2500K. It is simply the BEST gaming processor, as you can overclock this thing to literally absurd heights.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Note, there is a reason that it gets 5 eggs...

219.99

Cooler. You'll have to decide whether you want quiet or whether you want to overclock. Other than using liquid, you can't have both. I got this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

and it cools like a champ, but it does produce a bit of noise at 100% RPM. Nothing terrible, but you can hear it. You can install some software to lower it to 75 or even 50%, at which point it's whisper quiet, but do not try to overclock it when you're running at 50%. (Actually, to be honest, it'd probably still be fine, but that's kinda asking for trouble.)

It's 20 bucks right now! TWENTY BUCKS!

Mobo : Yours seems fine. I like Gigabyte boards well enough. When I went to buy mine, I just had a hard time finding a board where not every third review said something like "stability issues" or "memory doesn't work" or shit like that. Mobo quality has really gone downhill the last few years. The one I got doesn't seem to be made anymore, so basically pick your poison, I guess.

OS HD

I wouldn't go with 256GB for your OS HD, it's crazy to spend that much money on a drive you'll only use like 50 GB of. Go with a 64GB one, or if you want to not be on a space budget as much, a 128 GB one. Then buy another 128 GB to put your most played Steam Games on, and rejoice at the reduced level-loading times.

Also, that one seem to be the slow variety. Get one of the Sata3 / Sandforce 2 SSDs, as the read speed is dramatically better. This one is a beast:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139599

(I will say, though, that once every month or so, my computer will whine at me that it can't find a boot drive. For whatever reason, the BIOS will not recognize the SSD. I turn it off for a few minutes and turn it back on and the problem goes away. Not sure if it's the SSD or my mobo (I actually suspect the latter.))

I've upgraded the firmware and it hasn't happened since, so who knows.

This thing is expensive, I know. Speed costs money, but if you're going to go SSD for your OS disk, go all-in.

Data HD:

Eh, whatever. There's basically no difference between the big HD manufacturers.

GPU:

A GTX660ti gets like 98% of the performance of the GTX670, for 100 bucks less. That's straight cash, homey! I got the MSI Twin Frozr one, and I never hear it. Ever.

PSU:

850 Watts is overkill and a waste of power. 650 Watts is more than plenty, and quite frankly, so is 550 Watts unless you plan to hang 14 devices in your box or go SLI GTX680s. Do your energy bill a favor and get a 650W one, that way you're not turning extra watts into needless heat.

I got this one and it works just great, but some people have been less fortunate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Whatever you get, make sure you get a fully modular one, so you're not stuck with trying to find a place to stuff those 12 extra power cables you don't use.

Memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186

Get the low profile memory. You will bless me when you see that your CPU cooler is hanging over your DIMM slots...

Case:

That's purely personal preference, but I will say that this case has been the easiest case to work with EVER:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352007

I think my build comes around to $1250 (off the top of my head) and it'd probably run maybe 3% slower than what you suggested, and will actually boot and run a tad snappier in Windows because of the faster SSD.

Really the two things I would recommend against is the CPU and GPU. You're paying $200 extra for stuff that's just not noticeably faster.

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2. Re: Oct 2012 Rig Build Sep 28, 2012, 11:49 nin
 

I've had an i7 for a couple of years and can throw pretty much anything at it. Cranks right along...love it.

Highly recommend nvidia on the gpu. My 5x series is still doing great, and a 6 should last you years. Unless something hugely hardware dependant comes along soon, we've almost reached a golden age where any recent video card looks/runs things reasonably.

Memory, I'd recommend 12 gig, minimum. 8 is plenty for me now, but assuming you're going to have this system for a few years, it never hurts to plan ahead.

 
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1. Oct 2012 Rig Build Sep 28, 2012, 11:34 xXBatmanXx
 
Thanks for any input.
I am thinking i7 3770k, but could be pushed to something else, as I am looking for a nice CPU with some OC abilities that doesn't require liquid. I will update my top post as I decide on stuff.

Do not need: Mouse, kb, monitor, OS, sound card.

Mobo:
I am a Gigabyte fan, but looking for a nice OC combo with a decent CPU and possible upgrade path.

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H
$180

CPU:
i-7 3770k
$300

CPU Cooler: NOT LIQUID. But something that works nicely with the case and is quiet.
(needed)

OS HD:
Crucial M4 256GB
$187

Data HD:
2TB
$100

GPU: (Nvidia)
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB (has the 3 fans on it)
$400

PSU:
Corsair 850 Watts 80PLUS
$180

Memory:
No idea. Haven't researched this stuff in a long time.
(needed)

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF X (RC-942-KKN1)
$158

Antec P280
$110


Current build, depending on cooler choice and how many hard drives I use. Looking at right around $1800.

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