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Civilization IV: The Complete Edition

2K Games announces Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: The Complete Edition, a DRM-free compilation of Civilization IV games due for release on May 12:

May 05, 2009 – The wait is almost over for fans who want to own the entire Sid Meier’s Civilization IV® experience in one complete package. 2K Games announced today that Sid Meier’s Civilization IV®: The Complete Edition will be available at retail outlets across North America starting May 12, 2009 for Windows-based PCs.

This complete Civilization IV experience contains the award-winning classic Sid Meier’s Civilization IV as well as the highly regarded Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Warlords®, Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword, and Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Colonization™ expansions. Best of all, the entire package is value-priced at $39.99 and is entirely DRM-free.

Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: The Complete Edition was developed by Firaxis Games for Windows-based PCs and is rated E10+ for Everyone 10 and older by the ESRB.

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31. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Editio May 7, 2009, 05:12 Shadowcat
 
By DRM free, are they just saying that it doesn't have a CD check?
No. By DRM free they mean the game won't come bundled with ninjaware* like SecuROM, SafeDisc, Sony rootkit, StarForce, TAGES, and so forth.
Are you sure? If it needs a CD in the drive, then it's still DRM. If people are throwing the phrase "DRM-free" around but still forcing you to mess around with CDs or DVDs, then other people are going to get mightily pissed off.
 
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30. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 6, 2009, 13:51 DG
 
just... one... more... turn...

Excellent bundle. Though, IIRC, just play this via Beyond the Sword, it's not set up in a way so that you are supposed to play Civ4 then work your way through the expansions. BtS merely updates the vanilla game and the real expansion content is in the scenarios (IIRC it lets you play all scenarios through BtS as long as everything is installed, could be wrong tho).

Modding scene is epic, but that's what you get with this kind of community combined with a dev that goes out of it's way to make the game easy to mod, and even turns some popular mods into expansion content.

I haven't played Colonization as for the time I was paying attention after it came out, the forums weren't exactly buzzing, but CivIV:BtS makes my all-time top 10.

FWIW I won my first game completely accidentally via a cultural win.
 
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29. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 22:28 Z9000
 
I hear ya RP. But I read all the recent guides and stuff and to me, the predominate method to be successful is making a bunch of cities, micromanaging workers to make a ton of cottages, then play the game. Seemed like work to me. Great game to dig deep in to if you can catch the fever. I seem resistant to it even though Civ as a franchise is an all time favorite of mine.  
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28. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 21:55 Ruffiana
 
Hope this goes up on Steam.  
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27. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Editio May 5, 2009, 20:03 Kxmode
 
By DRM free, are they just saying that it doesn't have a CD check?

No. By DRM free they mean the game won't come bundled with ninjaware* like SecuROM, SafeDisc, Sony rootkit, StarForce, TAGES, and so forth.

*I just made up this word to describe DRM apps! :D
 
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26. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 19:49 Prez
 
I bought Civ 4 about 2 months ago, played it for about 3 hours, quit, and haven't been back to it since. I used to play Civ 2 constantly, but 4 didn't grab me. I kept on wishing it would be more like Total War, then decided just to go play that instead.  
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25. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 18:42 jimnms
 
By DRM free, are they just saying that it doesn't have a CD check? The only DRM I'm aware of in the original games was a CD check. Are they going to give those of us that already own the game a patch to remove the "DRM?"  
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24. Just wanted to mention... May 5, 2009, 18:05 skyguy
 
Just wanted to mention one of the coolest mods of all time, which happens to be for Civilization 4 Beyond The Sword:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=171398
 
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23. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 17:32 Noctis
 
Awesome, now I will finally buy it.  
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22. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 17:10 theyarecomingforyou
 
Has Colonization been fixed with subsequent patches? I've read that having fun with the game (building a huge colony and trade routes) makes it harder to win the game; the bigger your colony, the harder it is to declare independence, the only victory condition.
Yeah, to a degree. I wasn't able to complete the game until the first patch because the King would increase his forces to match liberty production and it didn't matter how many ships, troops or cannons I bought because the attackers had a HUGE advantage (usually with Civ defending gives you the advantage). And that was despite being on the easiest difficulty setting and being very familiar with CivIV. Post-patch I was able to win on my first play through and it was fun. However, it's not as good as the core game. It lacks the diplomatic interaction at the core of CivIV, meaning you basically do your own thing - the lack of troop building in any meaningful way means that developing your empire isn't really all that interesting. The highlight is the citizen specialisation and building trade routes, though automating the process is a ridiculous chore - wagons are barely usable without the game turning into Microsoft Excel.

Colonization is nice for a change but Beyond The Sword is leagues better. It's more of a glorified mod, something I'd expect from the community, and the delay for the first patch was absolutely unacceptable - the game was broken out of the box. CivIV received a large number of patches that had considerable impact upon the gameplay while Colonization was basically left to fend for itself. The forums were filled with complaints and guides telling you the exploits needed to win the game, with unofficial patches put out by the community.
 
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21. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 16:09 RP
 
The other thing that I didn't like was the game became way too much city management. I remember 7-9 cities was the most you would need to do well in other versions, and this version felt like I had to build and build and build.

@Z9000: Heh, that's why I like Civ IV. While I haven't played Civ III in about 5 years, I remember it being REX intensive. Early game settler and city spam were absolutely required. If you try that in Civ IV, your economy will quickly crash. My Civ IV empire usually maxes out at 10-12 good cities, and several of those eventually go on autopilot once I've got all the required improvements. (Higher difficulties require more micromanagement, though.)

I also think that city specialization works better in Civ IV. So unless you're really micromanaging a specialist-heavy economy, you can pretty much ignore your cottage cities once they reach health/happy caps, assigning them new multiplier buildings as they become available.
 
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20. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 16:08 Kosumo
 
Man, I got this 4 months ago here in New Zealand but it did not include Colonization. I already had them all but to get it all on one DVD fully patch at a discount price was a no brainer (just like rushing to long bowmen when you start next to Tokogarwa (Japanese Guy))

My friend and I have restart our weekly games of this; It's amazing how when you play this multi-player you sometime have to wait for others to finish their turn but it never feels like you are waiting, always something to look at/think about/plan for/trade with.

This is the game I hope they get people to play while they are in deep space travel in them cryogenic sleep/stasic pods. I could diffently play this while traveling a few hundred light years.
 
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19. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 16:02 RP
 
Steam sold Civilization IV Complete for $25 during the holiday sale (that version didn't include Colonization, however). Protip: you can copy/paste Civ IV: BTS from your Steam directly and apply a no-CD crack to play without dealing with the Steam client.

Anyway, Civ IV is the only PC game I've been playing lately. Now that I've actually learned the game mechanics, I fully appreciate its brilliance. I'm having so much fun with the game. Exploring, running religions, nuking the world, trying new map scripts. Civ IV is a perfect PC game as far as I'm concerned.

Put another way: Civilization will be included in my top 5 list of best PC games ever made. The question, then, is which version of Civ gets the honor. That Civ IV is a legitimate contender speaks highly of Soren Johnson and Firaxis; so many games get worse over time instead of better.

Has Colonization been fixed with subsequent patches? I've read that having fun with the game (building a huge colony and trade routes) makes it harder to win the game; the bigger your colony, the harder it is to declare independence, the only victory condition.
 
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18. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 16:01 Z9000
 
I think you can strip away the religeon and culture layers on Beyond the Sword. I don't remember. The game was amazing, just for me, less is more. The other thing that I didn't like was the game became way too much city management. I remember 7-9 cities was the most you would need to do well in other versions, and this version felt like I had to build and build and build. Constantly being reminded to fill a queue with something.  
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17. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 15:43 Quboid
 
Each version of Civ* has got better IMHO, I think because I've understood the mechanics better each time - partly because of better UIs, partly because I first played Civ when I was about 10 :-S . If you haven't tried it, this is a great chance.

I must play another game. When I've finished Empire: Total War, and FM09, and HoI3, and Company of Heroes ... I'm not going to time to work, eat or shower, so no change there then.

* This doesn't include Colonization, which is a stand-alone thing and isn't a true Civ game, and which wasn't very good.
 
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16. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 15:23 Efflixi
 
I just couldn't get into Civ4 at all. I played Civ1 when it first came out, as well as Civ2 and 3. I love them all, 3 being my favorite. I can't even pin my dislike of Civ4 to anything, it just doesn't feel right.  
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15. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 14:58 Boston
 
I'll get this collection when I feel suicidal and want to die of exhaustion from a 80-hour marathon gaming session.  
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14. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 14:50 Veinman
 
I'll keep this in mind as I never got this game before. I'm making a mental list this year, saving up money for the inevitable big Christmas Steam sale.  
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13. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 14:39 PHJF
 
NEEDS MORE LEONARD NIMOY  
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12. Re: Civilization IV: The Complete Edition May 5, 2009, 14:35 theyarecomingforyou
 
I have them all excepts for Colonization. I have not enjoyed Civ 4 as much as the others. It got too convoluted and became more about politics, religeon, and culture rather than warfare. If I wanted that, I would watch the news. I prefer Civ 2-3.
My opinion is that it actually focuses too much on warfare, as it takes an awful lot of culture to compete with a foreign nation. That's why I like Colonization - you focus on trade routes and city management instead of on building lots of troops. I found CivIV to be a great improvement over Civ3, especially with the Beyond The Sword addon.

It's a shame Colonization didn't live up to the promise. It was only with the recent patch that you could complete the game without relying on exploits and the trade system is poorly implemented. It's still great fun but the build-up is an anti-climax, whereas in Civ4 it's the main part of the game.
 
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