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Zeno Clash Devs on Piracy, Demo Plans

Ars Technica has an interesting article on the reaction of developer ACE Team to finding their recently released combat game Zeno Clash available for illegal download. Carlos Bordeu of the Chilean developer commented on BitTorrent Sites explaining the impact of piracy on an independent developer, saying in some cases they were surprised to find a positive reaction: "We've received several mails and posts in our own forums of people who pirated the game that decided to buy it because of the message. I don't know if it is a significant percent, or whether this is good strategy as a whole... but it has sparked some very positive reactions in the community." Here is the statement they made on the torrent sites, indicating a demo is in the works:

I’m one of the developers of Zeno Clash. I would appreciate you read this if you are about to download this file.

Zeno Clash is an independently funded game by a very small and sacrificed group of people. The only way in which we can continue making games like this (or a sequel) is to have good sales.

I am aware that at this moment there is still no demo of the game, but we are working on one which will be available soon.

We cannot do anything to stop piracy of the game (and honestly don’t intend to do so) but if you are downloading because you wish to try before you buy, I would ask that you purchase the game (and support the independent game development scene) if you enjoy it. We plan on updating Zeno Clash with DLC and continuing support for the game long after it’s release.

Thanks for taking the time to read this… hopefully it will make a difference.

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76. Re: Zeno Clash v. Piracy May 1, 2009, 11:18 Tumbler
 
Piracy doesn't help you in any of the scenarios you're faulting other methods for. It's literally uploading files and praying.

Torrenting in general is a brilliant distribution model and that alone is reason to use this tech to get your game out.I've started using uTorrent to pull large patches that get released for games that I have. Company of Heroes, BF2 Beta patch, it's far superior to using a centralized site like fileplanet. But you also have very little security, you can't put something up and hope to control how it gets distributed.

And when people say Piracy I think what they are talking about is Torrents. Torrents are making the distribution of this content ridiculously easy, fast, safe, and virtually impossible to stop. I think the devs/pubs are fighting a losing battle with this, short of clamping down control over the internet and trying to monitor all the traffic you don't stand a chance in hell of slowing down the effectiveness of torrents.

So learn how to use them. Stop paying sites like fileplanet to host your beta's. Put your demo's up on Torrent sites. Build games that don't offer the consumer a very fulfilling experience without a connection back to you. Some companies are adjusting to this, making games that rely on matching you with other players with the game. That is the primary reason I buy games is because I want to play against other players and I assume that the pirated versions won't allow me to do this.

I want to participate in ranked matches and ladders, and stupid shit like that. Exploit that. Quite bitching that you game is getting shared all over the world. TONS of shit is getting shared all over the world. Build something that can take advantage of that sharing network because it's a game changer. No one wants to admit that there is no way to go back at this point. You need to learn to deal with this monster, it's already beaten you. You're patches, demo's, and anything else you want to be shared among players should be available on torrents.

This comment was edited on May 1, 2009, 11:18.
 
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