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Zeno Clash Devs on Piracy, Demo Plans

Ars Technica has an interesting article on the reaction of developer ACE Team to finding their recently released combat game Zeno Clash available for illegal download. Carlos Bordeu of the Chilean developer commented on BitTorrent Sites explaining the impact of piracy on an independent developer, saying in some cases they were surprised to find a positive reaction: "We've received several mails and posts in our own forums of people who pirated the game that decided to buy it because of the message. I don't know if it is a significant percent, or whether this is good strategy as a whole... but it has sparked some very positive reactions in the community." Here is the statement they made on the torrent sites, indicating a demo is in the works:

Iím one of the developers of Zeno Clash. I would appreciate you read this if you are about to download this file.

Zeno Clash is an independently funded game by a very small and sacrificed group of people. The only way in which we can continue making games like this (or a sequel) is to have good sales.

I am aware that at this moment there is still no demo of the game, but we are working on one which will be available soon.

We cannot do anything to stop piracy of the game (and honestly donít intend to do so) but if you are downloading because you wish to try before you buy, I would ask that you purchase the game (and support the independent game development scene) if you enjoy it. We plan on updating Zeno Clash with DLC and continuing support for the game long after itís release.

Thanks for taking the time to read thisÖ hopefully it will make a difference.

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60. Re: Zeno Clash Devs on Piracy, Demo Plans Apr 29, 2009, 20:33 RP
 
Errr, you won't take his word for it but he's supposed to take yours?

I was referring to his dismissal of the Introversion guys. He said their piracy "success story" was invalid, but didn't really explain why. Just typing "not valid" does not make it so.

I don't expect people to believe claims I make on a message board. But I've been purchasing and pirating PC games since 1994, though the last game I pirated was in 2006. (Company of Heroes, if you're curious, which I eventually purchased through Steam.) When I did pirate games, I'd play them for about an hour before moving on to the next one. I pirated lots of PS1 games, too, but never played a single one. Looking back, it was more about collecting games, not playing them.

Pirates can be customers and customers can be pirates. Black and white distinctions are kinda stupid here. I dropped $200 on PC games last year and twice that much on hardware...if you take my word for it

Anyway I just find it weird that PC game blogs keep posting about piracy as if it's new to PC gaming or digital media. Put another way: is PC gaming so sad these days that piracy is the only thing to talk about? Piracy happens all the goddamn time in the music and movie industries, but it doesn't dominate the discussions to the same degree. On ThePirateBay, the most-seeded PC game is Fallout 3 (1500); the most seeded film is the latest Fast and Furious (15,000). I know the MPAA actively goes after pirates and stuff, but none of the movie blogs and sites I visit have stories like "VIN DIESEL TALKS ABOUT PIRACY NUMBERS FOR FAST AND FURIOUS OMGS!!1
 
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