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10. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 14:58 mag
 
i thought the biggest contributors to global warming were cow farts?

Which... is an utterly man-made problem. These aren't exactly wild cows. Eating as much meat as we do is hard on the environment.
 
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9. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 14:40 nin
 

With many magazines folding, one finds a surprising bid on eBay.

Blue, you know Mike Wilson is trying to swing that into yet another thing he can ride into thr ground, right?

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/692753/Gamecock-CEO-Mike-Wilson-Involved-With-Hardcore-Gamer-Purchase.html

 
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8. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 14:26 rocketpcguy
 
the only "unknown" factor is how 6-7 billion humans are contributing to it. To say that we are not contributing in any way is bull.

i thought the biggest contributors to global warming were cow farts?
 
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7. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 14:10 Cutter
 
Global warming is a fact, the only "unknown" factor is how 6-7 billion humans are contributing to it. To say that we are not contributing in any way is bull.

It's not unknown. We can - and do - quantify the amount of carbon/methane/et al. we pump into the environment. No one has ever said that the earth didn't have natural heating and cooling cycles. Just that man is needlessly exacerbating it and destroying the environment in the process. Regardless of the earth's natural cycles, there's no reason for us to keep making things worse all around. For some reson, the right-wing kooks/anti-enviromentalists don't think that things like air and water quality are important or even essential to life. That we can keep on burning wastefully through non-rewnewable resources and everything will just magically end up alright with no downside to anything whatsoever. They say enviromentalists lie or at the very least grossly exaggerate and and all problems. Even if that were the case - which it's not, at least they're in touch with reality.
 
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6. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 13:09 PHJF
 
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5. Re: we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 10:50 InBlack
 
kxmode, is this another attempt to reconcile us with your beloved "Bush" administration? If it is it failed.

Global warming is a fact, the only "unknown" factor is how 6-7 billion humans are contributing to it. To say that we are not contributing in any way is bull.
 
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4. we don't know Jan 28, 2009, 08:56 Mr. Tact
 
Anyone who claims they "know" what's going on with global weather is wrong. No one "knows". There are viable theories on both sides. In a couple of hundred years we MIGHT learn the truth. Maybe.  
Truth is brutal. Prepare for pain.
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3. Re: Global warming is 'irreversible'. Jan 28, 2009, 08:31 Armengar
 
Golbal warming isnt a myth in some respects. The carbon released into the atmosphere comes from the earth and is returned to the earth by the natural carbon cycle. Unnatural release of carbon into the atmosphere may well contribute to warming but then again so would a few more volcanos erupting.

So although we may be releasing carbon into the atmosphere, it is no more than nature has done over the millenia.

The major problem is the amount of crap drug companies push into the water system. I read a nasty article yesterday about some indian streams that set you up for life after drinking a cupfull. However all the bacteria will be resistent sooner or later. Plus indian lakes = our rainwater
 
Its not the cough that carries you off but the coffin they carry you off in.
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2. Global warming is 'irreversible'. Jan 28, 2009, 06:48 Kxmode
 
Global warming is also a myth. The Earth goes through, and will continue to go through, cycles of warming and cooling. They generally last for a few thousands years. It's not only arrogant to assume WE humans are causing it, but it's also ignorant of what many of finding.

In spite of what may seem persuasive evidence, many scientists are nonetheless skeptical.

They argue that natural variations in climate are considerable and not well understood. The Earth has gone through warming periods before without human influence, they note. And not all of the evidence supports global warming. Air temperatures in the lower atmosphere have not increased appreciably, according to satellite data, and the sea ice around Antarctica has actually been growing for the last 20 years.

Source: Science @ NASA

Each 100,000-year peak in radiation appears to last about 15,000 to 20,000 years, and each has been coincident with massive surges of carbon dioxide and methane (the green house gasses), into the atmosphere, causing de-glaciation of the Polar and Greenland ice caps. Surges of these greenhouse gasses have always been vastly greater than the amounts currently being generated by burning fossil fuels. For example, the most recent 100,000-year cycle raised sea levels 400 feet in the first 10,000 years, but since then sea levels have risen very little. In the current warming period, sea levels are rising only about 3 millimeters per year, and temperatures over the last 100 years have risen a modest 0.6 of a degree C.

Source: "Global Warming and Solar Radiation"

Using NCEP reanalysis data that span four and a half solar cycles, we have obtained the spatial pattern over the globe which best separates the solar-max years from the solar-min years, and established that this coherent global pattern is statistically significant using a Monte-Carlo test. The pattern shows a global warming of the Earthís surface of about 0.2 įK, with larger warming over the polar regions than over the tropics, and larger over continents than over the oceans. It is also established that the global warming of the surface is related to the 11-year solar cycle, in particular to its TSI, at over 95% confidence level.

Source: "Effect of Solar Cycle on Climate" by Department of Applied Mathematics, University of Washington, Seattle Washington


"Weíre now well into the earthís third straight harsher winteróbut in late 2007 it was still hard to forget 22 straight years of global warming from 1976Ė1998. So the Old Farmerís Almanac predicted 2008 would be the hottest year in the last 100.

But sunspots had been predicting major cooling since 2000, and global temperatures turned downward in early 2007. The sunspots have had a 79 percent correlation with the earthís thermometers since 1860. Todayís temperatures are about on a par with 1940. For 2008, the Almanac hired a new climatologist, Joe DíAleo, who says the declining sunspots and the cool phase of the Pacific Ocean predict 25-30 years of cooler temperatures for the planet."

Source: Center for Global Food Issues

And check out this graph from Al Gore's movie. Did you see it? The graph from An Inconvenient Truth shows the real CO2 and temperature cycle Earth goes through over 650,000 years compared to today's CO2 concentration. Notice the red and blue graph lines to the left follow a predictable pattern, compared to the insane "spike" to right. That's not exactly REAL.

The fact is the "Greendustry" has become the new dotcom in America. One day itís going to bust. A lie can only go on for so long...

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If people really wanted to worry about something worry about (compact) fluorescent lamps. Nearly all lamps have the symbol (Hg), the symbol for mercury.

Health and safety issues

If a fluorescent lamp is broken, mercury can contaminate the surrounding environment. A 1987 report described a 23-month-old toddler hospitalized due to mercury poisoning traced to a carton of 8-foot fluorescent lamps that had broken. The glass was cleaned up and discarded, but the child often used the area for play.[8]

Source: Wikipedia

So ask yourself, what would you do if a fluorescent light in your house ever broke?

But hey... whatever right? (compact) fluorescent lamps arenít as sexy as green this and carbon footprint that... ??

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1. logo Jan 28, 2009, 05:57 Kxmode
 
really like the logo but where's the samurai sword?

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