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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:55 |
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The program - as I predicted here on Blues - was doomed to fail from day one. Why? Because MS wanted to monetize it while giving nothing worth having in return.
Sorry, but you earn zero cred for that "prediction" as a ton of people were skeptical about GfW from the start. It's not exactly an earth shattering revelation that it was nothing but lip service. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:52 |
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From Penny Arcade :
I was checking out this functionality while Netflix showed my son the episode of Mighty Machines where trees are transformed into lumber. I was surprised to learn that signing in to Games For Windows Live signed out my Xbox, which meant that a Gold Account was no longer signed in, negating my access to video streaming. Now perhaps it's more clear why they don't allow you access to Xbox Live directly from the Windows shell: because they have no idea how to manage this incredibly rudimentary scenario.
That sounds pretty fucking awesome. Microsoft FTW!
Unbelievable...
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:45 |
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Games for Windows...too bad they wanted to use that a marketing slogan rather than a real framework for improved compatibility and functionality.
I'm so glad the greedy micro-transaction proponents and gamers-as-cash-cow thieves and the soulless unfun suits are being squeezed out of Microsoft like unwanted seeds from over ripe fruit.
Nothing about GFW worked: DX10 split code paths, Live! didn't help as nearly every single Windows game has its own multiplayer browser, marketing sucked (as usual), Widescreen support wasn't and the kicker was: Vista. No one wants it and GFW had a 64-bit Vista compatibility clause. No wonder it failed!
Microsoft is done, they just don't know it yet. The holy grail will be a user customizable OS, compiled for your specific hardware. Soon, soon. Keep at it guys. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:35 |
RP |
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How is that bollocks? You think there are secretly millions of WINE users?
These days, an OS is about as good as its applications. If Windows hypothetically lost its gaming edge, then it's one less reason to use the OS. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:34 |
Kxmode |
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| Is this Games for Windows or Games for Windows Live? Are they the same? I'm a little confused. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:29 |
dsmart |
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PC gaming might not put money directly in their pockets like Xbox royalties, but it keeps people using Windows.
Bollocks.
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Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:29 |
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| Can someone tell me what Games For Windows is supposed to do? I buy a TON of games, and I play a TON of games, and I'm still not sure what Games For Windows is. Is it a distribution system like Steam? Is it a multiplayer thing like Battle.net? Because as far as I can tell, it's just a logo on a box. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:24 |
RP |
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Meh, without good PC games, millions of people eventually switch to Linux and OS X. Gaming is the only thing keeping me interested in MS's sorry-ass operating systems.
PC gaming might not put money directly in their pockets like Xbox royalties, but it keeps people using Windows. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:24 |
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I’ll hold off on celebrating until the news reads “Game for Windows Live” axed!
Ditto. Just because someone was fired, doesn't equal the program being shut down. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:19 |
DangerDog |
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| I’ll hold off on celebrating until the news reads “Game for Windows Live” axed! |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:19 |
dsmart |
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You assholes need to stop insulting people YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
Chris is a very nice guy and contrary to popular belief, is NOT soley responsible for the farce that became of the Games For Windows program.
Someone has to be blamed for the program's failure; but that blame squarely lands at the feet of Microsoft and those ABOVE Chris's pay grade.
The program - as I predicted here on Blues - was doomed to fail from day one. Why? Because MS wanted to monetize it while giving nothing worth having in return.
I have also said time and time again that MS doesn't give a damn about PC gaming as they do about console gaming. They can't monetize PC gaming apart from actually...oh I dunno....RELEASING PC games?
Once they entered the console arena, it was game over for PC gaming. Even so, they STILL tried to monetize it by making DX10 a Vista exclusive. We know how that went.
GfW is a sound concept, but the execution - and their desire to monetize it while adding NOTHING worthy of the cost - has been disastrous.
I'm sure Chris will find a job eventually. |
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Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 14:00 |
Prez |
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| Good riddance. Games For Windows was an insult to PC Gamers. At least they could have tried to make it look like more than lip service and empty rhetoric. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:51 |
g_mann |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:49 |
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| Ed Fries is doing a bunch of stuff now. He runs that FigurePrints company that does the action figures of people WoW characters and he's on the board of Airtight Games, the company that's making Dark Void for Capcom. He does 2 or 3 other things too I remember him saying on a podcast a while back. He's definitely keeping busy. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:47 |
nin |
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Had Ed Fries still been around I've no doubt the GFW initiative would've worked. He was the last guy left at MS who truly gave a shit about Windows as a gaming platform.
Where'd he end up? I remember reading those xbox books that Takahashi wrote, and they said he left, but I can't remember for where...
And yeah, Ed really understood gaming, from everything I read...
edit: from wikipedia:
Fries is currently working on bringing his favorite game, World of Warcraft, to three-dimensional life with his startup company, Figure Prints. The company makes 3D models of a player's characters using a fleet of Z Corporation printers. Within the first 12 hours of his company going live, over 4,000 people had requested an order for a model. Fries explains in an interview that each model can take about 1 week to complete.
Hmmm...
This comment was edited on Jan 26, 2009, 13:48. |
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:43 |
Hump |
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Had Ed Fries still been around I've no doubt the GFW initiative would've worked. He was the last guy left at MS who truly gave a shit about Windows as a gaming platform. As a matter of fact, I beleive he was the last guy in MS management who actually knew gamers and didn't treat the community like a bunch of naive adolescent money-bags.
MS used to be a fantastic dev studio in and of itself. Too bad there isn't any passion left in Redmond for the hobby. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:42 |
Grounded |
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| Guess that is part of the MS layoffs! |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:41 |
nin |
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Bye dipshit!
Exactly.
See ya, fucker!
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re:Good Call |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:37 |
Techie714 © |
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| Mr. Early really screwed up that whole GFW initiative. Maybe he didn't have the full support of the upper management but either way that whole program needs to be seriously re-tooled. It has potential to be a great platform, just needs to be executed RIGHT. They need to focus more on better benchmarking, easier labeling, a big PR campaign that encourages PC gaming, etc. |
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Re: Games for Windows Boss Axed |
Jan 26, 2009, 13:33 |
Flo |
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Then Relic needs to think about cutting GfW out of DoW II  |
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| Supporter of the "Chewbacca Defense" |
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