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Out of the Blue

Well we had our first major snow of the season yesterday, there was probably about six inches on the ground when I shoveled, and it looks like I have a little follow-up shoveling to do today for what fell overnight. I was very pleased with getting to shovel our new sidewalk, as having an unbroken surface to clear makes things a lot easier than our old broken up walkway, though while this makes the process less aggravating, it doesn't make it effort-free, as I managed to get a blister on my thumb through my heavy winter gloves. Actually, that's probably more a tribute to my girly callous-free hands as anything, so I should probably have just kept that detail to myself.

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Stories: People 'still willing to torture'.
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 21, 2008, 15:06 Dan =0)
 
A hernia, a skipped-out roommate, other roommate going on Friday to his parents' until after the new year, my 31st birthday last night, and all the while recently... SNOWSNOWSNOWSNOW. >:( hernia makes it difficult to shovel...

god dammit. Okay, neighbors came over late last night at my place and played beer pong in PJs... was fun.

Other than that, major suck.

Dan =0)
 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 21, 2008, 11:17 brother19
 
Well, 18 inches of snow from Fri. pm to Sun. am, then 5-9 more expected today, followed by high winds, and this, the shortest day of the year. Come on up and help shovel, Blue !

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7. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 21, 2008, 08:10 osage no onna
 
I don't know how anyone can find it "shocking" that people are happy to do such things. Do they not follow the news?

Watching the BBC documentary Five Steps to Tyranny should be required of anyone wanting to live as part of society.
 
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6. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 18:12 Charlie_Six
 
The Milgram experiment was mentioned several times in my various classes. I was told that the experiment wouldn't be carried out again though for ethical reasons. I kinda wish it would be carried out again exactly, or maybe even taken further.

Also, the Reuters article said there was "no difference" between the volunteers willingness to "shock" people. That seems odd/new because I distinctly remember being told that Roman Catholics were the least willing to shock people to the extreme levels back in 61.

I also thought the Reuters article neglected to focus on what the Milgram experiment was really supposed to demonstrate. That people will do evil things if they have an authority figure present that will take the blame. There are videos of the Milgram experiment where the volunteer is saying "Look, I'll press this button but YOU have to accept all the blame, OK?" to the "scientist" next to them. The scientist then says "Yes, I'll take the blame" and then the volunteer proceeds to "shock" the victim.

It was supposed to demonstrate stuff like why German guards in a Holocaust camp did what they did. To me, the Reuters article didn't really focus on the whole authority aspect... it just seems to say "people will torture people!"

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5. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 16:51 mag
 
That is not torture though. It is a controlled experiment, they know it. It is also just pain. While pain sucks, they were not causing actual physical damage. Pain is temporary. Damage is not.

This by no means in any way shape or form is torture.

torture
1 a: anguish of body or mind : agony b: something that causes agony or pain
2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure

The article is kind of vague as to how much pain the shockers think the shockees are in, in this study, but in the original one that it is mimicking they were absolutely taking it to levels that they should have associated with torture (the subject screaming in pain, begging for it to stop, and IIRC eventually ceasing to respond).
 
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4. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 16:09 Cutter
 
Man, it was a freakin blizzard out yesterday, with more to come tonight and all this week. At least it's gonna be a white Xmas, very white.

BTW that Chuck Norris Pwnage is fuckin' funny as hell!!! Almost pissed my pants laughing, "Chuck Norris doesn't need mushrooms." I gotta play that game!
 
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 15:06 Enahs
 
That is not torture though. It is a controlled experiment, they know it. It is also just pain. While pain sucks, they were not causing actual physical damage. Pain is temporary. Damage is not.

This by no means in any way shape or form is torture.
 
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2. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 14:37 shul
 
dupes on blues?

people are still willing to torture while a shocking study finds most will torture if ordered?

(I didn't RTFA so maybe its not)
 
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1. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 20, 2008, 13:27 xXBatmanXx
 
Due to get 6-8 today, about 2-3 already down.

BRING ON THE ACCIDENTS!
 
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